Does anyone know where I can read up on stepping

[AmbientFiction]

I would like to know more about stepping of CPUs anyone know of a site where I could get some very deep info on it

[Shadow ÒÓ]

this might get you started..........

http://support.intel.com/support/processors/sspec/p3p.htm

[AmbientFiction]

Shadow ÒÓ (Jul 08, 2001 12:03 p.m.):
this might get you started..........

http://support.intel.com/support/processors/sspec/p3p.htm


Thanks shadow for the help.
I am getting a 633mhz Celeron 2 in the mail. For the money it seemed to be the best O/c Do you think I could use a Volcano // and OC that chip without too much heat problems I am going to try and go to max on that chip I might put a Sunon High output fan on it

According to Intel my CPU is either going to be Cb0 or CCO which would be a better stepping the higher Letter???

[Shadow ÒÓ]

you may wanna look at the CPU database.........I'm not sure that's such a good OC chip but I'm not an expert either.

[AmbientFiction]

Shadow ÒÓ (Jul 08, 2001 12:22 p.m.):
you may wanna look at the CPU database.........I'm not sure that's such a good OC chip but I'm not an expert either.

Well for $58. shiped I couldn't say no being on a very small budget I have to work with what I have.

CPU data base:
Celeron II 633 Results....

Total Entries in Database for Celeron II 633 - 135
Average overclocked speed - 974 Mhz

Looks like just above 1ghz marks the Water cooling area.If thats the case I'll just get a danger den.

[batboy]

Generally, although there are exceptions, the cC0 stepping is considered the better overclocker. If the default voltage is 1.7v (printed on the chip), then it's a cC0 stepping.

About your comments of being on a tight budget and maybe getting water cooling to reach a few measely more MHz... in my opinion... that doesn't make any sense. You are buying a $58 Celeron with no guarantees and then are thinking about spending between $100-$150 on water cooling to get to the same speed that you'd be at if you'd spent $100 on a new P-III 700 CPU that will benchmark much faster than a Celeron overclocked to the same speed.

[AmbientFiction]

Sorry I just saw that myself didn't make it clear..
If I go above that mark then I'll get a danger den

I am going to make a new rig since I can't run dual's.

[batboy]

Hey, I didn't mean to sound so blunt, but in my opinion, water cooling a Celeron is not worth it. You'd have to spend close to $200 total and hit 1.2 gig just to be running at the same benchmarks as an air cooled P-III that hits 1 gig which would cost half as much. Besides, if you get a cB0 instead of a cC0Celeron, chances are you won't be able to go much over 900 MHz anyway. If you do, consider yourself one lucky dawg. If I were to spend $200 on a processor right now, I'd buy a P-III 1 gig cD0 CPU which seems to easily runs up to 1.1 to 1.2 gig with air cooling. A Celeron would have to go up to 1.4 gig to match the benchmarks and that will never happen, even with water cooling.

The main determining factor in water cooling is temp and voltage, not actually clock speed. Let's say you just have to run 1 gig and you happen to have two C-633 CPUs. One will barely do 1 gig at 2.0 v and runs very hot. The other is an exceptional chip and will do a rock stable 1 gig at 1.8v and runs much cooler. Obviously, the hot chip is the water cooling candidate, assuming you HAVE to do 1 gig. My point is why? So, run it at an air cooled 950 instead. You'll never notice a 50 MHz difference during gaming or whatever you use your computer for, plus you will save well over $100 to boot. Just something to think about. Hope you luck out with your new chip and get a good one.