My comp always freezes on me!!!

[DeathScyth_Hell]

I have a celly 700....and i overclocked it to 766...i'm using the fan that came with the chip...and my comp always freezes on me...would this be a cooling problem??

And one more thing....can i change my fsb without change the speed of the my ram??...i have a asus cusl2-c..

[Pinky]

DeathScyth_Hell (Jul 16, 2001 12:10 p.m.):
I have a celly 700....and i overclocked it to 766...i'm using the fan that came with the chip...and my comp always freezes on me...would this be a cooling problem??

Possibly, but you need to find a way to monitor your temps, even if this means booting out of windows and going into the bios (there's almost always a temp monitor program on the motherboard you can access through the bios), or do a yahoo search and download 'Mother Board Monitor'.

And one more thing....can i change my fsb without change the speed of the my ram??...i have a asus cusl2-c..

No, the RAM (by default and design) run at the bus speed, so you will probably need/want PC100 or 133 ram for the best OCing of a celeron. I usually buy RAM that rates higher than the bus speed I'm running (unless it's quality RAM like the Corsair I use).

[Newbie_Doo]

If the CPU has the retail HS/Fan on it, you might want to check and see if it has thermal tape, or a thermal compound like Arctic Silver. Arctic Silver will improve your temps by many degrees and will help to improve stability. If your computer is locking up, the likely causes are insufficient voltage, and heat. Depending on your front-side bus speed, memory could be playing a part too.

It would really help if you could list the other components in your system too. Things like power supply size, video card, sound card, memory type-size-rated speed-CAS setting, and other peripherals. Are you running at default voltage, or have you increased it? What are your temps?

Motherboard Monitor can be located here (http://mbm.livewiredev.com/) and downloaded for free. It will give you a good idea of what your system temps and voltages are.

Once you have more info, post back here and someone should be able to help you.

Welcome to the Overclockers.com Forum. I hope we can help you.

Anthony

[DeathScyth_Hell]

I have a asus cusl2-c mobo, a riva tnt2 ultra, 128 pc 100 ram cas3, a quantum 20 gb ata 100, have a ethernet card, panasonic burner....i'm gonna get the alpha fan for my comp....i think it mite be the cooling thing....i'm gonna clock it even more...like 100 FSB but afraid my memory will fry...
oh ya...the voltage is 1.7 v....thx for all your help...

[DeathScyth_Hell]

ooops...forgot one thing my temp is around 38 C....which is pretty high....40 when i play games....i have a 250 W power supply...
thx again...

[Lancelot]

Your temps are ok for now. I would worry about the TNT-Ultra though. The Ultra is known for not liking high AGP-speeds cuz it's already a factory-OCed graphic chip. Can you find any means of underclocking your GPU? That might do the trick. All test platforms for i.e. iBX mobo's with 133FSB (thus AGP running at 89Mhz instead of 66Mhz used TNT chipsets, NOT the Ultra's)

[dozier768]

i think its a case of not enough voltage too 1.7 is the default for that chip i think. if you want to go higher you must be willing to bump that voltage "dont be afraid everyones doing it! lol" serriosly though im running my duron at 1.85 and some run way higher, temps are something to look out for too but i'll wager the voltage is your problem

[DeathScyth_Hell]

I can change it to 2X AGP in the bios...will that help??....how do i underclcok my video card??

[Pinky]

AGP 2x is fine, but the AGP divider is what's important -- near the CPU settings there may be an AGP setting that allows 1/1 or 1/2, have this set to 1/2 when overclocking.

Underclock your video card using windows software that allows you to change GPU and memory settings for the vid card. There's many to choose from, search for 'overclocking video software' on yahoo.

[DeathScyth_Hell]

Whats the GPU???...the software i have can change the memory clock speed....is that the memory setting that youre talking about???....

what do you recommend for the software for underclocking??...thx again...you guys are great...

[DeathScyth_Hell]

Whats the GPU???...the software i have can change the memory clock speed....is that the memory setting that youre talking about???....

what do you recommend for the software for underclocking??...thx again...you guys are great...

[DeathScyth_Hell]

Wouldn't underclocking affect my performance??....like make it worse? :'(

[outhouse]

DeathScyth_Hell (Jul 17, 2001 10:10 p.m.):
Whats the GPU???...the software i have can change the memory clock speed....is that the memory setting that youre talking about???....

what do you recommend for the software for underclocking??...thx again...you guys are great...

Your GPU is the brain of your video card the big chip with a HSF on it and if it does not have one it needs one. YES undeclocking will affect performance, setting it to 2x in BIOS will help and if you have the VIA chipset you can disable sideband in your registry without loosing stability but still keep performance.

goodluck

[outhouse]

DeathScyth_Hell (Jul 17, 2001 01:28 a.m.):
ooops...forgot one thing my temp is around 38 C....which is pretty high....40 when i play games....i have a 250 W power supply...
thx again...

Get your temps down buy a good HSF [Gladiators are on sale for 16 to 20 dollars depending on wich fan you want] make sure you have atleast 2 case fans then when your temps are lower raise your CV to your CPU and i'm positive you will regain stability, temps as well as low CV cause freezing when overclocking. Also some NIC cards dont like being overclocked if you can let us know what FSB your running at hopefully your not running your memory out of specs.

goodluck

[DeathScyth_Hell]

i think my fsb is at 76....i have some pc 100 generic ram....i'll try to get some case fans....its the ones that i can screw them inside my case rite??.....wouldn't disabling sidebanding affect my performance too??

[DeathScyth_Hell]

I don't have the 1/2 setting for my agp in my bios...how else can i do this...i have a asus cusl2-c mobo...thx again...

[Pinky]

DeathScyth_Hell (Jul 18, 2001 01:34 a.m.):
I don't have the 1/2 setting for my agp in my bios...how else can i do this...i have a asus cusl2-c mobo...thx again...

I looked up some specs, nice board BTW, and it should have the setting for the AGP divider as it can run 133mhz bus (1/2 for AGP bus), and the AGP bus default is 1/1 since the system for your celeron is 66mhz. As you increase the system bus the AGP bus will be 2/3 at 100mhz.

**I noticed a lot of onboard features that might make overclokcing more of a challenge with this board. Are you sure you've disabled sound and video in the bios.

**If you must use the onboard features, try setting your voltage to 1.80, watch your temps, and set the bus to 100mhz. If it doesn't post, up the voltage in small increments to 1.90, watching carefully your temps don't hit over 50C. If still no post, then disable the onboard and see if that works.

[Pinky]

sorry, duplicate

[DeathScyth_Hell]

I don't have the onboard sound and video...

would the agp divider be the "FSB:SDRAM:PCI Freq. Ratio" (got this line from my bios...) i think this is the divider thing....
one of the options are like 100:100:33....is this 2/3 agp divider?

[theflyingrat]

Darn tootin' that's the one you're looking for. Well, for the PCI bus, anyway. There will be a separate entry for the AGP divisor. They function in the same manner, though. When you near 100 (or possibly 90 with some generic PCI components), you will want to modify this number. With your Celly, it probably says 1/2 by default. At 66 MHz front side bus, this turns out to be 33 MHz, which is where most PCI devices are happiest :)

Anything above this, and it gets a little hairy. For example, there's a grey space where Celeron fans don't like to clock their computers to - usually from 83 to 90 MHz FSB. This leaves the PCI at 41.5 to 45 MHz, and cheaper PCI devices commonly stall out at these speeds! The option here is turn the divisor to the next step down, which is 1/3. However, in this area, the PCI bus is effectively underclocked, and performance sags. So it's beneficial to have the EFFECTIVE COOLING to be able to run your CPU with a higher than 90 something FSB, where you can put a lid on that high PCI bus speed and keep your video, hard drive controllers, sound, etc. from crapping out.

The only problem in your case is your CPU's relatively high multiplier, which is 10.5 (10.5*66=700). Even at a 90 MHz FSB, you're already running 945 MHz! In order to reach 'safe ground' here, you'll have to be the lucky guy who gets the Celemine that will clock all the way up to 1050! If this works out for you, YOU WIN and I will forever be jealous. And if you're going to be able to do it, your CUSL2-C is going to be the board to do it in....mmmm.....CUSL2......*droool*

[DeathScyth_Hell]

Thats the only one there is in my bios...nothing for the agp divider....only the pci...the only thing thats related to the agp is the 4X or 2X...i changed it to 2X....cuz i read its enough for my card....i'm going to get the global win fan soon so i might bump it up to 100 FSB...wish me luck!!....

[quark]

http://www.tech-gods.com/reviews/263/
try this link it gives a good description of your motherboard, Im pretty sure its a good board cus ive ordered one, cant wait.
sometimes its not the obvious things that stop you overclocking, ie its not always the cpu or the mobo but the combination of the other components like sound card and a certain vid card etc, not necesaryly the individual components just the combination you have, I have two sytems and one seems more suitable to overclocking than the other but all the components are good household names like soundblaster, creative geforce, abit etc so theres no guarantee. anyway check out the site its good for info on the cusl2-c
good luck.