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Gabertooth
07-17-01, 07:07 PM
OC Community,

I've seen quite a few pages that show how to tell the difference between the CuMine-T and Tualatin for example:

The Future Of Pentium III - Coppermine / Coppermine-T / Tualatin

Enough talk about Pentium 4! Pentium III is still found in the most systems out there and Intel sees Pentium III still as the 'volume leader' in 2001. Right now, Pentium III is suffering from two (partly only theoretical) problems. In terms of clock speed it can't reach AMD's Athlon, which will soon be available at 1333 MHz, and in terms of price it lags behind its competitors from AMD as well. Intel is planning to move the pricing of the currently known Pentium III models into the 'Mainstream 1' segment, which is one step above the 'value' segment. In other words, Pentium III will become less expensive and this seems like a wise decision, because it is hard to find a reason for the purchase of this processor right now.

The next-generation Pentium III goes by two different code names. The real new version of Pentium III is called 'Tualatin'. It will be produced in 0.13 micron process and reach clock speeds of 1.26 GHz and possibly beyond. 'Tualatin' will utilize lower voltages and be incompatible with current Pentium III platforms. Besides 'Tualatin' there is 'Coppermine-T'. This processor-model is still made in 0.18 micron process, but it is compatible with Tualatin. It doesn't seem clear if 'Coppermine-T' is simply a 'Coppermine' that can run at the new voltages of 'Tualatin' or if it will indeed be a new processor design.

As 'Coppermine-T' seems rather nebulous right now, I prefer to concentrate on Tualatin. The interesting thing with this new Pentium III core is the fact that it will exist in two versions, one with a 256 kB L2-cache and one with 512 kB L2-cache and thus twice the second level cache size of current Pentium III processors. In the current roadmap you can find Tualatin with 512 kB L2-cache only in two segments. The mobile Tualatin for notebooks will actually come with the larger second level cache and then there seems to be a desktop Tualatin for dual-processor systems that will also have the 512 kB L2-cache. All the normal desktop Tualatin Pentium III processors are supposed to only have the ususal 256 kB L2-cache.

There isn't much known about Tualatin's specs, besides the second level cache size, the lower voltage and the different manufacturing process, but rumor has it that Tualatin will actually use a faster front side bus, possibly the quad-pumped 100/400 MHz bus of Pentium 4, enabling it to benefit more from high bandwidth memory. This rumor seems rather sketchy however.


URL->http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/01q1/010208/roadmap-04.html

So look if your talking about the Tualatin is .13 micron new technology, the CuMine T is the old core just with the new voltages or something like tha with Cc0 stepping.


-Gabertooth

Placid
07-17-01, 09:05 PM
I was looking today at the electrical specs for p3's at the intel site and I read in the spec sheet that the 1ghz cpu 1B comes in 2 versions 1 without a IHS (Integrated Heast Spreader) and one with a IHS they both were 1.7's vcore and .18 micron.
I have also noticed some motherboard mfg's bios updates say they include support for cDO stepping cpu's
but at abit none say this but they do say support for coppermine-s cpu's.
If you want to read thru this here is a link.

ftp://download.intel.com/design/PentiumIII/datashts/24526408.pdf

Page 31 has the cpu's look for note #20 then see page 33.

Odd thing is they list cpu's with note #20 as low as 933mhz.