BH-5 chips discontinued on Black Level II.

MoonWolf · Mar 23, 2004

First off, I noticed Newegg had the new "222 special" chips for sale. I was confused at first till I looked at this on mushkin's web site:

Q: What is the difference between this new 222 build and the PC3200 222 - Black Hi Perf Level II?
A: The Black High Performance level II used the Winbond BH5 chips, which are no longer in production. This new 222 special build uses Winbond BH6. They perform just as well as the BH5 at 3200 speed, but may not be as overclockable in your system.

How well do you think those "222 special" sticks will do when combined with Level II Black? I have one stick of 256 3200 Level II, but newegg stopped carrying them, and I cannot find it anywhere else. I guess that is what happens when you try to buy ram on the installment plan. I guess I'm stuck with a Mushkin/Corsair combo (not a whole lot of fun) until I either find another stick of Mushkin 3200 with BH-5 or replace my ram altogether with Corsair.

Does anyone know where I may still be able to find 256 mb of Mushkin 3200 Level II Black retail or otherwise, I posted an ad in the wanted section of the classifieds.

TC · Mar 23, 2004

I was wondering myself - I figured they must have switched to BH6 when they quit calling it "level II" I'm looking for something that will do 230ish at cas2, and hopefully upwards of 245 at cas 2.5. I doubt the BH6 chips will do that without some serious voltage.

Bar81 · Mar 23, 2004

I think vibe computers may have some of those 256MB sticks left although they're charging an assload for them (which probably explains why they're still available)

Top Hat Theater · Mar 23, 2004

With 3.5+ volts, I think someone at XS had their BH6 chips at 277MHz 2-2-2 so they're solid performers...just need lotsa juice!

~THT

jlin453 · Mar 23, 2004

wow 3.5V??? What if you're only interested in throwing 3V at it

Top Hat Theater · Mar 24, 2004

With 3V, mine did 240MHz 2-2-2-11. With 3.3v, they can do 255MHz 2-2-2-11 but I'm pretty certain it's my board maxing out before the RAM.

~THT

Sophisticated · Mar 24, 2004

3.5v is alot to be feeding some ram even if it is BH-5...

obsolete · Mar 24, 2004

Top Hat Theater With 3V, mine did 240MHz 2-2-2-11. With 3.3v, they can do 255MHz 2-2-2-11

Hmmm.....Well that really sucks I guess. Maybe I should try 11-2-2-2 instead of 5-2-2-2. But I can only hit 230 with mine. Anything after that programs start crashing.

obsolete · Mar 24, 2004

Mem.....

MoonWolf · Mar 25, 2004

Well that sucks, what else can I say? Are there BH-5 chips on other types of memory? I heard Kingston had them on HyperX.

Are there any other types of memory that are comparable to BH-5 in performance?

disk11 · Mar 25, 2004

Not really. You would have heard about it already if there was.

Xsky_Pu · Mar 25, 2004

They perform just as well as the BH5 at 3200 speed, but may not be as overclockable in your system

so is the special 222 good for oc?

obsolete · Mar 25, 2004

so is the special 222 good for oc?

The special 222 are good OCer's you just need VOLTS!

I mean 230 is not to bad with 5-2-2-2 timings!! Some Bh-5 can't even do that. At the same rate, some Bh-6 can't pull that either.

I'd say chances are better if you can apply about 3.3v. I may be able to get more out of them if I loosen up the timings, but I don't want to sacrifice my timings if I can't get a high gain in fsb.

Xsky_Pu · Mar 26, 2004

so im also wondering is 512*2 mushkin special 222 can do that good oc and timing as well?
or only 256*2 can do
is oc also effected by the volume of the ram?

Top Hat Theater · Mar 26, 2004

BTW, speeds in excess of 250Mhz are not stable for me...I'm just saying what my RAM can hit. I'm almost certain it's my board maxing out, not the RAM.

~THT

NoteUser · Mar 26, 2004

I don't have the "222 special" but I do have BH6 OCZ Limited Edition 3200 and I give them 2.75 volts 2-2-2-5 timming 5:4.

The highest I've gotten into windows is 254, somewhere close to 260 it didn't post.

MoonWolf · Mar 26, 2004

Thanks alot. Now I know that Mushkin is still worth buying.

NoteUser · Mar 26, 2004

Oh yeah, I don't have a North bridge cooler lol

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Freddie · Mar 27, 2004

Yeh i just got some Mushkin 222 special (2*512) and i want to be able to get it to 220mhz@222 how many volts do you think will be needed, as i don't really want to have to put more than 2.75 in them, but i can go up to 2.85.

pelikan · Mar 27, 2004

obsolete said:
Mem.....

How much vdimm on that?
Thanks.

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