AMD or Intel What do you use?

[Wega!]

Ok, I know most in here use AMD, but I would like to se the differ in %
Let's start voting!

BTW Sorry about the Willy!

[Bender]

AMD The chips are very inexpensive and overclockable. You cant get a $40 intel chip up to 1200 like my duron. The new .13u P3 chips look interesting but they still arent clocked high enough and the price will be way high.

[Thelemac]

I use both..Intel for my old box (PII400@412) and laptop (PIII750) and AMD for my watercooling rig (Duron600@952) and air cooling experiments (Tbird1000@1350)

No preference right now, but it *is* kinda nice to be able to put together a really kickin system for about $600.

[Zuck Gou :)]

Both for me too.

Though if i was gonna buy new AMD would be it.

[OpenFriday]

Intel only for me as of yet, just bought another intel (p2 300) so it dosent look like i'll be making the switch for a few months yet. I think its all the talking i do with Shadow that made me stay with Intel. :)

[Pinky]

Here we go again... more Intel Amd wars...

let's keep this one civil, alright...

Oh, and Intel Rulz!! Always will...

Narf! :cool:

[R0BB23]

intels are ok but im going amd (athlon) though. there just better and are cheaper. thats a plus for poor ppl like my self.

[hooziewhatsit]

AMD all the way! or at least until Intel puts out a cheaper and or truly faster chip. Until that day, I think I'll stick with AMD.

[sfa ok]

I have an Athlon, Duron, and Celly. But the Celly isn't o/ced and only folds, so it doesn't count. AMD has better price/performance. Period. I haven't had any stability problems with either AMD system. But this could change, depending on what happens in the next few months.

[dugans]

Currently in use:
1 Intel pc (dual P-II400)
1 AMD pc (K6-2 450)

Chips hanging out:

Intel 233, 266
AMD 400

next one I buy will probably be AMD

[phiber]

ever since OpenFriday told me to get a Duron i have been on AMD side

[LJ5L]

Both Intel and AMD, but for real work I use Intel. The reasons are obvious, so lets not get too specific.

A good analogy is, Intel = Honda, AMD = Huindai, yes the Huindai may run faster, yes the Huindai has a 10 year warranty, etc... but it's still no Honda. </metaphors>

[killem1x1]

I couldn't have been swayed from Intel for anything until...
I saw an AMD 1.4 sitting beside an Intel 1.7
Same boxes, same software, same everything.
It was a no-brainer for me, but that's me.
Now that I have my 1.4 running at 1703, I paid $400 less for something tons better, and it sure has been one he*lofaride ;)

(Is it ok to say he**ofaride?) :)

[Zuck Gou :)]

Yes?

[Mr B]

Lessee, what have I got kickin' about...lol

*note, these aren't all running, right now only the P/// 700E is up.*

Chip...default @ overclock (best I've gotten stable)

P II 233 @ 333
Celeron 300A @ 504
Celeron 366 @ 550
Celeron 600 @ 1053
P/// 600E @ 954
P/// 700E @ 971? (have had 966, tested on a BX mobo, and 971 seemed stable, but didn't really wring it out. I've gotten this one to post at 1001, but had mobo probs... )

I guess the answer would be, intel. =)

Mr B

[OpenFriday]

Originally posted by phiber
ever since OpenFriday told me to get a Duron i have been on AMD side

Well i would go AMD myself IF i started a pc from scratch, but as i have 2 or 3 intel mobo's kicking around it makes sence to me to stick with intel. Plus i dont know i have some sort of attachment to Intel. Not as attached at Mr.B though. Keep it real brother B! Man thats detication Mr.B.

[phiber]

trust me its prolly shadow

[eobard]

You need another category for me entitled "One of both plus other".

2 AMD: Duron 800@1053, K6II 450@551

1 Cyrix: 6x86 P150+ @P166+

[mrpcman]

I've used both, but now i'm an AMD guy. My last intel was a 600MHz PIII.

[Pinky]

You got to be kidding me... Intel has been making chips since the beginning of time (well, OC'ers.com time)... and yet, only 33% Intel users... even with 'both' we miss by a couple...

common! I think we got some closet Pentium users out there :p .

[Newbie_Doo]

Intel (3 computers, 2 currently active) but I am going to go to AMD for the next one.

[*spazzed*]

Hmmmmm, ive had my cellie for a while now(cruddy HP), but now i've gotten a K6 mobo, so I just may try ancient AMD technology:D

[skip]

Let's see:

AMD 1.3 @ 1570 Personal Machine
Intel 700E @ 1085 Development Machine
Dual PIII 1000 Forums Server
Dual PIII 500 MySQL Server
Dual PIII 600 CPU Database SQL Server
Dual PIII 600 Web and Mail Server
AMD Tbird 700 @ 1100 Development Linux Box
AMD Classic Athlon 500 Server Monitor SNMP Box
PIII 866 Kids machine
DV450 IMac Kids machine

On the Shelf:

PIII 700E Slot 1
Duron 750
2 PPro 200's on a dual board (Just can't seem to give these up)
2 PIII 450 on a dual board
2 PII 300 SL2W8 (Run 450 at default all day long) on a dual board
2 PII 233 on a dual board
PII 400 Unlocked
Cyrix 166
Cyrix 233
Pentium 200

Sure would like to get a Dually AMD board for the MySQL Box :) These forums are really working the Dual PIII 500's hard!

[alan]

Just a P3 850e.

I don't know enough about AMD to consider one for my next system...but i have a lot of good reading to do in the AMD thread.

[JAWS]

I have had a AMD K-6(400), Duron(700), and now I just got my Tbird 1.2. I love them all!!

[AmbientFiction]

I have:
Celeron 533 which will hit 600. (in a box waiting on a new folding machine)
Celeron2 633 @ 952 but with better cooling could pull a gig.

Working on getting some AMDs

Originally posted by skip
Let's see:

AMD 1.3 @ 1570 Personal Machine
Intel 700E @ 1085 Development Machine
Dual PIII 1000 Forums Server
Dual PIII 500 MySQL Server
Dual PIII 600 CPU Database SQL Server
Dual PIII 600 Web and Mail Server
AMD Tbird 700 @ 1100 Development Linux Box
AMD Classic Athlon 500 Server Monitor SNMP Box
PIII 866 Kids machine
DV450 IMac Kids machine

On the Shelf:

PIII 700E Slot 1
Duron 750
2 PPro 200's on a dual board (Just can't seem to give these up)
2 PIII 450 on a dual board
2 PII 300 SL2W8 (Run 450 at default all day long) on a dual board
2 PII 233 on a dual board
PII 400 Unlocked
Cyrix 166
Cyrix 233
Pentium 200

Sure would like to get a Dually AMD board for the MySQL Box :) These forums are really working the Dual PIII 500's hard!

Whoa God is a computer junkie.

[foxmulder]

It seems to me that while Intel holds a fairly large share of the lets call it low end sector (you know the stuff you were paying through your nose for 2 years ago) from 300-700 Mhz, the picture shifts when you look at how many people are using P4 vs. lets say Athlon 1000 - 1400 Mhz. This reflects the major improvment of AMD products over the last 2 years and leads me to belive that the Intel fans are fated to go the way of the dinosaurs.....

Personally though I hope Intel doesn't lose too much more market share. A balanced market does wonders for consumer prices :) :) :)

Oh yeah TB 1200@?
(my water cooling rig isn't working yet)

[Über~PhLuBB]

AMD baybee! No comparison. They're cheaper, they're faster, they last longer, they're easier to overclock, and they have cool ass names too! Athlon! Ooh, mysterious. Palomino! Clawhammer! Celeron. Wait a minute... Celeron? Celery? Cellulite? Celtic?

Bah to Intel. AMD owns.

[markedmundb]

me, I'm waiting for Palaminos and rev 2 DDR chipsets to make the change from Intel to AMD.

I've had a cyrix p200+ before. Whupped Intel when it came to integer, fell sadly by the roadside when it came to floating point.

Hmm, I think Cyrix technology-based chips are still rotting in a ditch somewhere...

[samuknow]

I'm diggin my Intel now. Have built a couple of Tbirds for some friends. Holy cow those things run HOT......


Gotta

PIII 500 (work box)
PIII 700@856 (fun box)
PI 100 (router box)

[zoopa_man]

I use both. But if I were to build a new system right now I would get an AMD to overclock with. But I also like to get intel's chips for more stability and ease of use for new computer users.

Here's a run-down of what's in my home.

My system (seen below) PIII 733
Sisters system P-90mhz used for chat, mail, net
Dads system AMD K6-2 450 used for the same
My second system AMD k6-2 500 just a quake box and FTP server

[Bender]

Hey Pinky wanna guess who manufactured the first Intel chips. Thats right it was AMD before Intel had any of there own fabs. I prefer AMD but I like the competition to keep things real. Currently you can only get a p3 up to 1G but the athlon goes up to 1.4. The p4 goes as high as 1.8 but it still stinks compaired to a 1.4 athlon. For the price of a 1.8 p4 and mobo I'll get a 1.4 athlon and a VapoChill.

[Pinky]

Originally posted by Bender
Hey Pinky wanna guess who manufactured the first Intel chips. Thats right it was AMD before Intel had any of there own fabs. I prefer AMD but I like the competition to keep things real. Currently you can only get a p3 up to 1G but the athlon goes up to 1.4. The p4 goes as high as 1.8 but it still stinks compaired to a 1.4 athlon. For the price of a 1.8 p4 and mobo I'll get a 1.4 athlon and a VapoChill.

Hmmm... I'll shut up now :D

[CrystalMethod]

Running a Celleron 800@922 (I've had it up to 1066, but I think my MB is fried) Moving up to Dual PIII's, but I'm planning to build an AMD machine before the year is out. I've always had Intels, and I like the stability. The AMD's I like as well because they're cheap and fast. AMD's perform better in some departements, and Intels in others. IMHO, it's like comparing apples and oranges.

[BF_TEXMASTER]

Intel

#1 No Via motherboards to mess with
#2 Far less heat issues
#3 Greatest hardware compatability (targeting VIA here)

[FerrariF50]

Well I'm be useing both very soon also to note one website I was looking at it says that Amd has allways been a follower which is true. And intel has the leader. Which comes to see why each time Intel makes a new chip Amd does one.

[kat]

first machine intel 166@200 all the rest amd 900/1ghz/1ghz 266/1.2 266:D :D :D

[The Doors]

Like my signature say's a C2 600 and a TB1200

[harderclock]

so far 1 amd and 2 pentiums but by the end of the month 3 amd's and so long pentium.

[Betty]

my first system was an amd...but it was an oem machine...eeww (didn't know any better)...
my second machine was a celly 366@550 (mobo & cpu, alpha hs & slocket $125 Can).....my third (current) machine is a p3 550@770....I know with better cooling, I could get more out of it...my purchases were based on money...I got the celly 2nd hand dirt cheap...same with my p3 system (mobo, cpu, fop32 & slocket $187 Can)....if I come across a cheap cheap amd system & I'm in the market for a new cpu & mobo, I'll go with amd....cheap meaning the entire mobo, cpu, hs ect. for less than $200 canadian....

[dude]

Right now I'm using only Intel but I'm building three systems for friends in colledge that will all be amd athlons.

[Rottys-R-Us]

My sig sayz it all:D

[joey_rjm5]

Originally posted by compuwife
my first system was an amd...but it was an oem machine...eeww (didn't know any better)...
my second machine was a celly 366@550 (mobo & cpu, alpha hs & slocket $125 Can).....my third (current) machine is a p3 550@770....I know with better cooling, I could get more out of it...my purchases were based on money...I got the celly 2nd hand dirt cheap...same with my p3 system (mobo, cpu, fop32 & slocket $187 Can)....if I come across a cheap cheap amd system & I'm in the market for a new cpu & mobo, I'll go with amd....cheap meaning the entire mobo, cpu, hs ect. for less than $200 canadian....

I paid about 180 for my the mobo, proc, and mem listed in my sig
and you coud get a golden gate from svcompucycle with a fan for 20 buck. The golden gate performs pretty good too. That would make the total 200 American. I don't know what that would be canadian, but that is also including 256 of crucial 2100 mem. I guess that would be included in the ect though. Well I just thought I'd let you know in case you wanted to jump on the AMD bandwagon.

Oh and in response to the original post:

AMD:
K6-2 350
Duron 750- on it's way still

Intel:
Celeron 366

[Blackearth]

i havent really had any experience with intel. . .but amd's procs are very powerfull and incredibly cheap (still going down arnt they-the prices?) so i went with them. . .i thought $150 was good at the time(5monthsago?)for a 1ghz tbird(266fsb). its overclockable up to 1442 (but then i would i have to leave off the sde panels of my case and they get in the way-noise is also more). . .i dont think i'll go intel until they come out with a proc thats cheaper and more powerful tehn amd's latest

[eobard]

Originally posted by joey_rjm5

That would make the total 200 American. I don't know what that would be canadian

$2,300.00 (give or take $5). Sooner or later we're gonna have to change the name of our currency to the Canadian Peso.

[joey_rjm5]

LOL

[[Oc]acaridans]

I run both but I dont know good a K6-2 400 really is

[diehrd]

I just suffered on my wifes INTELL system for a weak,,,That slug needs to be in the mud,NOW i can live in the fast lane on my AMD system.10x145,,,This system runs so fast It is like compairing a bomber plane to a fighter jet !!!!! INTELL is a name no longer is it the LEADER in processing power.....LONG LIVE AMD

[Slain]

took me a while to get the courage to jump ship to AMD and boy am I glad I did it. I am free of that acursed RDRAM although I might look at P 4 when then bring out QDRAM for it :D

[LJ5L]

Originally posted by diehrd
I just suffered on my wifes INTELL system for a weak,,,That slug needs to be in the mud,NOW i can live in the fast lane on my AMD system.10x145,,,This system runs so fast It is like compairing a bomber plane to a fighter jet !!!!! INTELL is a name no longer is it the LEADER in processing power.....LONG LIVE AMD

I sure hope English is not your first language, or second...

p.s. last time I checked InteL was dominating the market...

[eobard]

Originally posted by LJ5L

I sure hope English is not your first language, or second...


Lets not dump on anyone's linguistic skills, we're all suffering without the spell checker now. :)

[LJ5L]

It's really the absurd and unsubstantiated Intel bashing overtones that tick me off in that post.

[Boffin]

INTEL RULE, AMD Athlons have one real place when running, under a grill with burgers on top, AMD would make good BBQ's seing as they specialise in heat production.

[UnseenMenace]

Originally posted by texmaster
Intel

#1 No Via motherboards to mess with
#2 Far less heat issues
#3 Greatest hardware compatability (targeting VIA here)

AMD

#1 A P4 under performs when compared to a AMD Athlon of the same speed.
#2 A P4 is largely over priced when compared to a AMD Athlon of the same speed.
#3 Intel is changing the socket design for the P4 shortly, while the next generation Athlons will still work in the same socket.
#4 Rambus mobos are over rated and over priced.
#5 Rambus mobos are under performing
#6 Celeron under performs when compared to a AMD Duron of the same speed.
#7 A Celeron is largely over priced when compared to a AMD Duron of the same speed.

And this is why I choose AMD, however I think we can all agree while these companys continue to fight to produce cheaper and faster processors there is only 1 winner and thats the consumer

[LJ5L]

There's a great saying in business.... "You get what you pay for" and "Price, Quality, Service - Pick any two" ... now let's transpose that to processors... "Price, Speed, Stability - Pick any two".

Of course each one of those branches out, like stability expands to the heat issues and compatibility, etc... but those few words pretty much sum it all up. You pick the features you need, neither one is better than the other, they are different.

p.s. please don't dissect those wise saying

[minoukat]

Well I have 3 systems : 2 intel = 1 486SX 25MHz (soldered in the MOBO) and 1 pentium 3 coppermine 900 MHz (socket 370). 1 AMD = K6-2 450 MHz. I think my amd system is more stable than any other (also depends on the OS), and is the only one I can overclock, and without any doubt my next system will be AMD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dugans]

Hey, lets keep it friendly in here!

I know some people are passionate about which company manufactures their cpu, but come on! I have always preferred AMD as "the little guy" in the cpu wars and I was pleased when they managed to beat Intel in the speed wars, but ya know what? The next pc I build will probably be somewhere around 1 ghz, and the only thing I know for sure is that it will NOT use rdram! Which brand I end up with will entirely depend on value: the best bang for the buck!
I do want to mention one thing about stability: I have seen absolutely no difference in stability of hardware between AMD and Intel. In fact, given an equality of os, (NT, 98se or WIN2K) the only time I have seen my hardware cause instability is when I was ocing something!

[LJ5L]

Hey, legitimate question: are there any prebuilt AMD systems that use passive cooling?
I know for a fact in Intel up to 1000mhz or so business systems having only one fan (in the power supply) cooling the whole system is not uncommon. Using air ducts and low RPM but very high density hard drives makes these system fast and MOST importantly quiet. Speed and price is not everything.

[FerrariF50]

You mean this one?? It was $19.99 over at www.svcompucycle.com




Originally posted by joey_rjm5


I paid about 180 for my the mobo, proc, and mem listed in my sig
and you coud get a golden gate from svcompucycle with a fan for 20 buck. The golden gate performs pretty good too. That would make the total 200 American. I don't know what that would be canadian, but that is also including 256 of crucial 2100 mem. I guess that would be included in the ect though. Well I just thought I'd let you know in case you wanted to jump on the AMD bandwagon.

Oh and in response to the original post:

AMD:
K6-2 350
Duron 750- on it's way still

Intel:
Celeron 366 [IMG]http://store6.yimg.com/I/svcompucycle_1648_176017

[dugans]

Originally posted by LJ5L
Speed and price is not everything.
True!

Speed, Reliability and Price.

Thats everything, isn't it?

[FerrariF50]

Also i'm too lazy to find it again but the place were Intel makes the Cpu's The so called "Clean Room" I was looking on the net those places cost $5 billion and it's 5 times cleaner then your hospital.....and they build new ones I think they said every 2 years and the way they help pay for it is the proccesser price....

[Boffin]

I have lost count the amount of computers i have built over the years but out of them all i still think that intel are the most reliable of all manufacturers. I have had more trouble getting AMD gear to work properly ( not melt) than almost anything apart from that other company (CYRIX, AHHHHH). intel produce bomb proof chips but AMD chips go like a bomb, Intel Rule, AMD melt.

[PDL]

AMD x 2 :D

I think the stability issue regarding Intel died years ago with the intro of the P3.
They got too big for their britches!!

[stool]

5 AMD, 4 Intel

[lonewolf1983]

you just cant beat the price of amd versus intel
duron=faster,cheaper than the celeron
athlon=cheaper,faster than the p3 (not to even start on the p4)
without any compatibility issues and the ability to overclock
why would anyone not want to go with AMD

i hear brand loyalty somewhere
well say your computer was a car,and the manufacturer screwed you over with high prices,and a shoddy product,
would you buy a new car from them??

amd all the way baby!!!!
:)

[FerrariF50]

lol oh like this Would you buy a Ford Pinto or a Ferrari F50 <------ :) I know what one I would pick :p

[Monaco]

WHAT! Still no votes in the "other" category! I know somebody out there has a Cyrix box!

Fess up!

[FerrariF50]

lmao!

[Boffin]

But who would want to buy F50? they cost to much. Next time i need central heating i will build a dual AMD and connect it to the heater in my room. that might stop them from melting. A better comparison between 2 cars is (AMD) Dragster and a Lexus LS400 (Intel). Amd are good for spped but go POP very quickly, Intel are not quite as quick but very reliable, remember INTEL RULE

[UnseenMenace]

Originally posted by Boffin
A better comparison between 2 cars is (AMD) Dragster and a Lexus LS400 (Intel). Amd are good for spped but go POP very quickly, Intel are not quite as quick but very reliable, remember INTEL RULE

This is not a fair comparison as they were both these vehicles were built for vastly different purposes, it is somewhat like comparing a gameboy with a PC. If you wanted to compare CPU's with vehicles a better comparison would be between Ford (AMD) and Volvo (Intel). The Ford (AMD) does what everyone needs it to, it is generally reliable and is reasonably priced with a model to suit all pockets, while Volvo (Intel) is overpriced and under performing vehicles that offer nothing that you can not get from a Ford other than the incorrectly percieved safety and quality by those loyal to the brand

[LJ5L]

Can we please stop the Intel bashing with these moronic analogies?

[dugans]

How about we just stop bashing ANY cpu manufacturer and just all be grateful that the competition between chip makers has improved the breed so much in the last few years that we can all go get a cpu cheap, and clock it or otherwise screw around with it, and not worry if we burn it up because it only cost a few dollars.




Instead of $1000!!!!!!!!!

[Sohryu Asuka Langley]

Intel here. I like to keep an eye on my temps without gettin extra stuff and because AMD WILL NOT have in die diodes..guess ill stay with intel.

[bdf24]

I've built a number of intel machines. All very stable and fairly fast. I'm on my first AMD machine wich is just as stable and faster then any intel I had. Although theres a difference in speed. But this T-Bird 1.2 gig wups my old PIII 800 @ 1000mhz.

But IMHO "To each his own". If someone likes Intel machines fine, If someone likes AMD thats fine to. Were all intitled to our opinions. Which is what most of us here are expressing, Not fact! So lets leave it at that.

Happy Overclocking!

[CrystalMethod]

Originally posted by bdf24
...But IMHO "To each his own". If someone likes Intel machines fine, If someone likes AMD thats fine to. Were all intitled to our opinions. Which is what most of us here are expressing, Not fact! So lets leave it at that.

Happy Overclocking!

Well said.

[Wildfire]

AMD all the way!! Haven't used Intel since my P60. AMD have performance and good prices. Just run a bit hot.

[ReTiCuLeX]

I would go with intel but because I can't afford it Im sticking with AMD and gona keep overclocking :P

[Subzer0]

im AMD all the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!:p

[toni33]

I had 1 cpu from intel and it was a pentium75 mhz, later I update my system to an amd k6 266, later a k6-2 450 , later a duron 700, and nowadays a duron 800. It´s the great choice I ever made!

[Tebore]

Don't know about u guys but i'm AMD all the way!
Every since the PII,Intel's been slacking off and AMD went from the little engine the could to the little engine that did.

my set up:
Vision Top S7-MVP3 mobo
AMD K6-2 300 oc'ed to 350
192 megs SD-ram pc 100
Ati rage fury pro 8 meg
SB 64 AWE
panasonic cd-rw 8x3x32
30 gig 7200rpm maxtor and 6.4 gig WD

pretty good for 14yr old kid budget
P.S. Has ne one ever heard of Vision top Mobo?

[iggybaseball]

AMD ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ebola]

im sticking with intel for now. ive had good luck with my abit bx6 2 board.

[Kingslayer]

Intel. I have 4 Computers and between them run 7 Intel CPU's.

Thing that I love is that everyone brags that their AMD's are sooo much cheaper to buy. But then they forget to tell you that they had to spend an extra $150 for an Enermax powersupply, and $40-60 on a copper heatsink or $100 on watercooling just to make a Bird fly.

[BiLLyXkiNG]

Intels all the way

[Paul -The Mad Hatter]

Amd all the way!

when it comes to price and performance, everything else is obsolete.......

[App]

AMD on my private computer. Intel P400 in my laptop (business). AMD has nice, alround and well performing procs which are also easily overclockable, and that's one of my favorite hobby's.;)

[LinkStatic]

Intel... I got a slot 1 mobo that's why it's Intel for me at this time, and quite satisfied with it at the moment....

AMD...? Been considering it for my next upgrade...

[LinkStatic]

Intel... I got a slot 1 mobo that's why it's Intel for me at this time, and quite satisfied with it at the moment....

AMD...? Been considering it for my next upgrade...

[!!tio!!]

I would say Intel for newb and AMD for prof!

Let me classify

Intel Celeron - For newb and low class user. Not for gamers

Intel P3 Coppermine - For Programming and low profile gaming!

Intel P3 Tualatin - For programming, middle class gaming and overclocking

Intel P4 - For people who will change a new PC in 1 year or people who will use it for 3 years! (Dunno how to say but it sux!)

AMD Duron - For professional who r poor

AMD Athlon - Well HIGH CLASS GAMING, OVERCLOCKING and low class PROGRAMMING (takes 24hours)

Well I only like AMD Duron, Athlon and tualatin. Wait till P4 Northwood is out n see will it kick athlon's ass!

[mark]

I run a small ISP for fast unix shell accounts, domain registration, web hosting and design, domain hosting, personal domain email accounts, e-commerce solutions, and more....
In my servers I run only dual p3's

My main home pc is also a p3.
I do have an amd k6-2 that I let the kids play on though.

Here are my systems..

Athaliah & Ahaziah (at co-location)
Dual Pentium III 733 MHz
768 MB PC133 ECC SDRAM
Ultra160 SCSI 160MB/sec 36 gig HD RAID
Daily backup
Connected to network battery backup system
100 mbit connected to dual OC-3's

sluG (down for repairs, HD died) *sigh*
Dual Pentium III 700 MHz
512 MB PC100 ECC SDRAM
Ultra160 SCSI 160MB/sec 9.1 gig HD
Daily backup
Connected to network battery backup system
100 mbit connected to dual OC-3's


ghett0 (at co-location)
Dual Pentium III 866ghz MHz
1 GB PC133 ECC SDRAM
Ultra160 SCSI 160MB/sec 50 gig HD
Daily backup
Connected to network battery backup system
100 mbit connected to dual OC-3's


bEast (my home box)
Pentium III 700 oced to 1120mhz
768 MB PC133 CAS2 INFINEON SDRAM
Geforce 2 MX 400 64MB
20 GB total HD space
http://www.mjstebbins.com/case.htm
battery backup
8mbit/1mbit Internet


sh*t-b0x (for the kids)
AMD 533 oced to 600mhz
128 MB PC133 SDRAM
20 GB HD
Tnt 2 32mb card
networked to bEast and on 56k line

[Paul -The Mad Hatter]

Originally posted by etomac
I would say Intel for newb and AMD for prof!

Well I only like AMD Duron, Athlon and tualatin. Wait till P4 Northwood is out n see will it kick athlon's ass!

Remember that when the northwood comes out amd will have the palomino, nforce, and most probably pc2700.

[mrpcman]

definatly the athlon 4, and pc2700 ram....hopefully.

[two_dope2000]

My whole network runs on AMD, except two, i got two litle 486's dx, i had some extra ports on a hub and they were buggin me.:)



AMD kicks ass

[zorro13]

AMD T-Bird 1400 AYHJAR-Y!!!!!
(w/swiffy air cooled)

[Despotes]

I'm a former Intel user. The price to performance ratio with AMD's processors is what I need and what I have.;)

[arf325]

personally....I like intel better...even though I have both.....my intel with a bx chipset is the most stable thing I have on my network......I have some tbirds...they are ok...but i will more than willingly pay the xtra buck for the p4....when the new boards come out this spring.

[adamtekh]

i use a AMD k6-2 475 @ 500 and ive got some older intel cpus layin around

had a pent 166 @ 200 runing as a proxy but the PSU in my main system died so i scrapd the 166

for my new system in the works im trying to decide dual cellrons or PIII around 700 mhz

or a fast t-bird 1000 mhz +

unless i can find a dual socket A mobo for a good price in which case ill do dual duron 800

[M@€$†®Ö™]

Originally posted by hooziewhatsit
AMD all the way! or at least until Intel puts out a cheaper and or truly faster chip. Until that day, I think I'll stick with AMD.

You speak true words !

Maestro

[Itchie]

AMD for me, because it's cheaper but just as good. I have a P1 166 non-mmx and a Duron 750. The Duron is a very good chip, and overclocks well. I recommend it to everyone.

[touser]

intel as of now but if amd keeps getting better i will switch :) i do not lean towards one or the other..i could really care less who manufactures the better chip..i just want the better one for the types of things i do :)

[Robbie]

Well I'm cheep so I got an AMD 1 gig.

HAHAH I think I'd perfer and Intel cuz from what I understand Intel and Gates are in bed and Windows just runs better with an Intel. But I think this is the days of old so I doubt that, that applies anymore. I've been a AMD fan now for quit some time.


Clock on

Rob

[diehrd]

I dont know what I like LMAO

[arf325]

I use both..I have a celeron...pentium I p3...and a tbird...I like intel a little better for a couple of reasons.....first...the amd..are power hungry cpus...that generate lots of heat....to keep my 900mhz tbird....(not overclocking yet....) I had to buy an expensive h/f... then a bigger power supply cause mine was 300...and with all the stuff I had... I need 350.... I didnt like that...also on the amd boards...they have via....and amd chips (north, south bridge etc) on the same board...not vary stable...I havent had much luck with these. I think it should be one or the other!!! Not 2 on the same board! And the intel bx chipsets... are THE MOST stable things I have ever ran in my life..and therefore I like intel a little bit more...but amd isnt too shabby. Everyone said that the p4 was a failure, but I dont think soo...software today just designed to be enhanced by the p4, so for now, no it wont perform better than a tbird...yet! Also, many people dont like the rdram designed for the p4..when the ddr, and the sdram boards come out, sales will go up a little. Just wait untill software is made exclusively for the p4 platform...and it will smoke!:p

[LiquidPenguin]

I use both. I dunno, I guess I don't really care what chip I use. I usually chose my MB before I chose my chips but most of my PC's are AMD chips.

[PipeBom]

Intel for me. But AMD are looking very good at the moment. Can't believe the preformance of the 1.4 Athlon.

If only we could unlock Intel cpu's................

P3 866 @ 1007 ( happy but could go higher )
Cooling needed.

[arf325]

yep, when you buy a better h/f fan +a better power supply, you end up spending the same money anyways

[dugans]

The only thing that really surprises me about this poll is that only 41 out of 191 of us run both Intel and AMD!

[Hookem]

266mhz Pentium II for crusing on the internet
1.4GHz AMD Athlon 266fsb in new box with ABIT KG7
2-1.2GHz AMD Athlon MP in waiting

[fireball****aka fireball_87]

Originally posted by skip
Let's see:

AMD 1.3 @ 1570 Personal Machine
Intel 700E @ 1085 Development Machine
Dual PIII 1000 Forums Server
Dual PIII 500 MySQL Server
Dual PIII 600 CPU Database SQL Server
Dual PIII 600 Web and Mail Server
AMD Tbird 700 @ 1100 Development Linux Box
AMD Classic Athlon 500 Server Monitor SNMP Box
PIII 866 Kids machine
DV450 IMac Kids machine

On the Shelf:

PIII 700E Slot 1
Duron 750
2 PPro 200's on a dual board (Just can't seem to give these up)
2 PIII 450 on a dual board
2 PII 300 SL2W8 (Run 450 at default all day long) on a dual board
2 PII 233 on a dual board
PII 400 Unlocked
Cyrix 166
Cyrix 233
Pentium 200

Sure would like to get a Dually AMD board for the MySQL Box :) These forums are really working the Dual PIII 500's hard!

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

ps: skip, can u make it so i can put more smielys in my posts? :) thanks

[fireball****aka fireball_87]

(main box)1 duron 700@935, 256mb ram, win xp preview(soon tri-boot linux/2k/xp)
(folding box/part time server)1pIII 500@???(need hs/f)192 mb, win 2k/ linux(soon
(my old comp/my dad's box)1 "classic" athlon 550, 256mb, win me :P
(my old, OLD, OLD comp,/mom's pc) k6-2 350, 256mb, win me :P

[Ironic]

amd good intel not so good

why

price performance

this has always been true

what dose the future hold

(amd good intel not so good)

[LimeyGreg]

Presently Intel but I am contemplating putting together a pure gaming machine using AMD.

[arf325]

ironic...how do you assume this??? The Cpu itself you might say be better....fro gaming... but the motherboard and chipset have a huge factor in it too! In my opinion....amd does not make as near as good of chipsets as intel..... All my intel systems run more smooth than my amds....(although my gaming one is amd)...but I wouldnt say that intel will be "not so good" in the future...yes p4 sucks currently...but wait......ddr for p4..it will get better...and the new celerons 1.1+ghz cpus.....are very nice...... it gave my amd 1.2ghz a good fight....but amd edged out by a little..quit downing intel...until you consider the facts...

[diehrd]

Originally posted by arf325
ironic...how do you assume this??? The Cpu itself you might say be better....fro gaming... but the motherboard and chipset have a huge factor in it too! In my opinion....amd does not make as near as good of chipsets as intel..... All my intel systems run more smooth than my amds....(although my gaming one is amd)...but I wouldnt say that intel will be "not so good" in the future...yes p4 sucks currently...but wait......ddr for p4..it will get better...and the new celerons 1.1+ghz cpus.....are very nice...... it gave my amd 1.2ghz a good fight....but amd edged out by a little..quit downing intel...until you consider the facts...



LOL<LOL<LOL<LOL<LOL< LOL< My Celery gave my 1.2 amd a good fight,,Next time TURN THE AMD SYSTEM ON !!!!

What nonsense a 64 cache compaired to 256 and the Celery put up a fight I cant stop Laughing >>>>>>>>>>>>

[JetMech]

Originally posted by Pinky
Here we go again... more Intel Amd wars...

let's keep this one civil, alright...

Oh, and Intel Rulz!! Always will...

Narf! :cool: I knew there was something I liked about you besides your graphic:D

[dugans]

Cyrix Rules!













I run both AMD and Intel, always have- always will!
I recently put a TBird 900 together-running at 1092 right now; pretty sweet for $297 total spent!

I also run a dual pII 400-bulletproof, runs anything, doesn't crash also doesn't oc.

I also have an amd k6-2 450 going, runs strong, runs any apps.

I have my webserver on the intel, my network security on the 450 amd and I screw with the TBird.

Its the first "modern" AMD chip I've used: impressed and at the same time not! Fast but HOT! I can't run a couple of apps on it either!!!??? They just won't run!

It would be cool if a third cpu maker could get into the mainstream: think about it: instead of just two giant companies trying to run each into the ground, a little guy trying to make a BETTER product!

LMAO

[-=UR=- Ranger]

My last Intel was a 133 Mhz, After that came K6 II 300@350, K6III 450@525,
Than came my current machine Slot A classic Athlon 650@954
And I just built a T-Bird 1.2 system for my Dad.
So for me it´s AMD at the moment
But if Intel came out with some fast and cheap CPU I might change...:)

[NEWBIE911]

Originally posted by PhLuBB
AMD baybee! No comparison. They're cheaper, they're faster, they last longer, they're easier to overclock, and they have cool ass names too! Athlon! Ooh, mysterious. Palomino! Clawhammer! Celeron. Wait a minute... Celeron? Celery? Cellulite? Celtic?

Bah to Intel. AMD owns.



That was a good come back with the names of the intel chips
AMD all the way baby 1.2 @1.3

[arf325]

cant stop laughing????? well 64 mb of l2 cache my ass!!! what the he*l are you talking about??? You are ignorant!!! NOt all celys run on 64 mbs of cache(try 128)!!! Im freaking serious...amd is good their chipsets ARE JOKES! I couldnt belive it either!!! But i tested it over and over and over!! I got 6 diff kinds of programs..and all had almost the same results??? ...first I thought this forum might have something pcmech didnt..but man this is where I went wrong(pcmech-honest,helpful, and not ignorant like some people here, they consider facts...they dont just assume stuff...oh yeah a 1.1 ghz cely cant handle a 1.2 tbird?? no..but It came pretty damn close).....People like you make me mad. Your ignorance just ****es me off!! I was saying in the gaming you couldnt notice it too much, and in the benchmarks there wasnt that much of a difference!!!! excuse my lanugage, but this is making me mad!

[minoukat]

Originally posted by arf325
cant stop laughing????? well 64 mb of l2 cache my ass!!! what the he*l are you talking about??? You are ignorant!!! NOt all celys run on 64 mbs of cache(try 128)!!! Im freaking serious...amd is good their chipsets ARE JOKES! I couldnt belive it either!!! But i tested it over and over and over!! I got 6 diff kinds of programs..and all had almost the same results??? ...first I thought this forum might have something pcmech didnt..but man this is where I went wrong(pcmech-honest,helpful, and not ignorant like some people here, they consider facts...they dont just assume stuff...oh yeah a 1.1 ghz cely cant handle a 1.2 tbird?? no..but It came pretty damn close).....People like you make me mad. Your ignorance just ****es me off!! I was saying in the gaming you couldnt notice it too much, and in the benchmarks there wasnt that much of a difference!!!! excuse my lanugage, but this is making me mad!

Please don't express yourself too "openly" (sometimes it seemed like a flame !).

[Paul -The Mad Hatter]

Originally posted by arf325
cant stop laughing????? well 64 mb of l2 cache my ass!!! what the he*l are you talking about??? You are ignorant!!! NOt all celys run on 64 mbs of cache(try 128)!!! Im freaking serious...amd is good their chipsets ARE JOKES! I couldnt belive it either!!! But i tested it over and over and over!! I got 6 diff kinds of programs..and all had almost the same results??? ...first I thought this forum might have something pcmech didnt..but man this is where I went wrong(pcmech-honest,helpful, and not ignorant like some people here, they consider facts...they dont just assume stuff...oh yeah a 1.1 ghz cely cant handle a 1.2 tbird?? no..but It came pretty damn close).....People like you make me mad. Your ignorance just ****es me off!! I was saying in the gaming you couldnt notice it too much, and in the benchmarks there wasnt that much of a difference!!!! excuse my lanugage, but this is making me mad!

umm don't you mean 64k. if performance to you isn't much of a diffrence, wouldn't price be the next big factor? errr amd wins there to :D .

[arf325]

oh yeah woops not mbs!!! my bad...but it IS 128k of cache

yes amd has the price advantage, but im talking about performance! The boards amd uses are not as good as intels. Via is a joke kt133 kt133a I dont care! It's not as good as intel. YEs amd the chip itself is just as good, but the price?? LIke I stated earlier before you need a bigger ps, then a bigger/better h/f, 2 extra case fans, so I ended up paying a little more for amd! INtels chips are not power hungry, and they do not generate as much heat. Soo at the end they cost almost the same. Also the celerons HAVE 128k of cache?? Where do you get 64 from?? And I think Via sucks! IF amd were to cool down their chips, and dump via, yes they would be better than intel. But they havent, so I dont favor them as much!!

[phungilax]

amd rules my face. yeah i'm definately into the amd chips over the intels. i just think that they're overall performance is better and they're better at overclocking. i mean, isn't that what this forum is all about, us overclockers

[hduong]

I have a intel p3 750 right now but am going to go with an amd cpu with my next upgrade. I'm hoping to get a dual altholon along with win xp.

[rUfUnKy]

um .....AMD

[PhoenixMDM]

Just ordered my first AMD... Duron 750.

Hope there as good as u say :D

[Mr.Lansing]

one word
AMD

[LinkStatic]

Just replaced my P3 667E with a Duron 850 ( and an Iwill KK266 )... saved me a lot of money.... hehehehehe... And I'm glad I made the shift....

[TheNewbie]

I have a Intel P3 700 i like it and everything but it won't perform like i want it to so i'm selling it for a AMD duron!!

[John1975]

Intel Celeron 850@1133, but I want more
stupid 128k cache

Probably would go to AMD if I did it again

[TheNewbie]

U know it agrivating when ur P3 will only squat out 946 stabil when ur friends are running laps around u w/ thier durons

[The Coolest]

I'm AMD all the way so far... and if the Hammers won't cost too much, I imagine that nothing will change :p

[Cooler666]

I hate AMD :D, don't make me take out the thousands of benchmarks on every review i've seen :cool:

one word:
Intel Rock :cool:

[rUfUnKy]

Originally posted by Cooler666
I hate AMD :D, don't make me take out the thousands of benchmarks on every review i've seen :cool:

Please do!!.....;)

[Cooler666]

Originally posted by rUfUnKy
Please do!!.....;)

don't make me ;)

[jbell]

Originally posted by skip
Let's see:



Sure would like to get a Dually AMD board for the MySQL Box :) These forums are really working the Dual PIII 500's hard!


Time for a forum donation!

figure you only need mobo+chips+ram right?

maybe PSU as well...

[jbell]

Originally posted by Cooler666
I hate AMD :D, don't make me take out the thousands of benchmarks on every review i've seen :cool:

one word:
Intel = Rock :cool:


yep that is how fast they feel next to an AMD rig!

[jbell]

Originally posted by FerrariF50
lol oh like this Would you buy a Ford Pinto or a Ferrari F50 <------ :) I know what one I would pick :p

the mini cooper?????

[Cooler666]

Originally posted by John1975
Intel Celeron 850@1133, but I want more
stupid 128k cache

Probably would go to AMD if I did it again

I thought celerons have 16k chache, or maybe it just feels like it :D, thankgod for my new computer

[thefly]

150 intels at work.

1 intel at home
1 tbird at home.

I like amd. The underdog company. :) Only thing is they run hotter than the gates of hell.

If they could get the temps down, that would be a serious plus.

Maybe will the move to .13

[BigRed]

Long live Cyrix! :D
:p

[Intraveinous]

Lets see...
AMD Systems:
K6/2 450 @ 504
Athlon 1.4 @ 1.4 (for now)

Intel Systems:
Couple of old pentiums, like 133 or 150s
PII 366 Laptop
Celeron-T 1.2Gig @ 1.2Gig (Main rig, got it partially set up last night, haven't had time to update the BIOS, let alone O/C)

Peace
john

[Wega!]

Wow, this poll is old! I posted this loooong time ago :eek: Nice to see it's still alive....

[Ice_Gargoylle]

i wanted a stable, fast, somewhat reasonable puter for school/work. Had to go dual tualies 1.26..love um...

for some things amd are good for, others intel..most ppl just choose to play games=amd

just like ddr and rdram...;try runn'n 5 progies loaded w/ ddr..rdram will blow it away.

oh..and my dualies r runn'n 35 C with stock hs/hsf..nvr changes no matter what i do;)

[cjlax5]

Originally posted by Cooler666
I hate AMD :D, don't make me take out the thousands of benchmarks on every review i've seen :cool:

one word:
Intel Rock :cool:

so ur predjudice against amd

please show me these benchmarks you are talking about, cause in all the ones ive seen intel gets smoked

[POL-tec2002]

i personly like intel cpu's my desktop has a 700 celly and my old laptop has a intel 25mhz. My bro has a intel too.

[Bmxpunk86pl]

QUOTE:i personly like intel cpu's all my computers have intel cpu's



Damn straigh, intel is what i got too.

[Teacher_Doug]

I don't really have a hang-up with either Intel or AMD. I've tried them both (P3 500 and AMD T'bird 1 gig -> 1.1)
The AMD is easier to oc, but the real reson I bought AMD is that its cheaper per flop

[mikester]

well all i own are Intel cpu's, and ive never had a problem with them. so ill stick with them for a while.

[diehrd]

Originally posted by OpenFriday
Intel only for me as of yet, just bought another intel (p2 300) so it dosent look like i'll be making the switch for a few months yet. I think its all the talking i do with Shadow that made me stay with Intel. :)

lol shame on you shadow lol

[Beelzebub]

All I have ever had have been Intel chips, but the next one I will be purchasing is an AMD. Sure Intel has the name and the higher megahertz, but AMD performs at least as good as any Intel, is cheaper, and seems to be on the consumer's side (relatively speaking). Intel keeps changing things with their processors, be it RAM requirements, slots to sockets, whatever you can think of.

I used to joke with my neighbor about how Mac CPUs were way behind in megahertz compared to us Intel folk. He woud always say it was faster, but I never believed him. Now I am on the other side. Athlons perform better than Pentium 4s at equal clock speeds. Can't argue with the facts. Just look at SETI times. :D

[Wicked Klown]

I use an AMD chip. One because they are faster then Intel and second they cost less. Only problem I see with AMD is they run to hot. Once they can get the temps down like the Intel it will be one heck of a CPU.

[nuclearmonkey]

I use both here as well, for my desktop, my tv capture computer, and soon to be second desktop, all AMD. But for the 3 laptops here, the file server, web server, all Intel.

[GoldenTiger]

AMD :).

[Cooler666]

Intel :bday:

[Arkaine23]

AMD XP in my rig
AMD T-bird in the rig I made for my girlfriend
Intel Celeron in my laptop

[maxima88]

AMD:cool:

[Cowboy X]

1/ Xp 1900+

2/ Celeron 400

shelf : Pentium 75
486 dx2

[Aces High]

Amd all the way.My wife has an 2ghz intel in her hewlett packard 7795
I dont know what it is but just hearing the word intel aggravates
me.:argue:

[newhouse_00]

im goin with intel

PII 350
pIV 1.7

[turd]

both tbird 1.4@ 1.53 and a dual p3 1.1 @ 1.26
wife has p3 733 @ 825(no noise) router is p200 @233

[shaftyPinochle]

AMD.....

because corprate america sucks.....

[BigApple]

AMD 1900+ :eek:

[MaxX]

AMD rules!

Don't get me wrong Intel has a large part of the market, and there better for ppl that dont even know how to get in there case (and for ppl that do they tend to oc a tad better it seems like), and they run cooler, and most importantly sse2.

but AMD's just gets more done and costs less(and i'm not shure AMD could make enough chips to swich places with Intel), and i just like them better :D.

I don't have as much expirence as most of you but thats my pocket change.

1 cyrix 166
2 k62 266's (notebooks)
1 1.3ghz athalon (200fsb)
1 1ghz athalon 4
and one athalon xp in the making (crosses fingers for .13 micron before july)

[Sir-Epix]

I use both, but majority of my farm is Intel.

[Zuck Gou :)]

Both, but Intel is the majority.

[MadMan007]

I was extremely close to going AMD for (new) computer in my sig but I didn't because:

1) the chipsets tend to be crap. I refuse to use VIA, and at the time of purchase their were no compelling SiS745 boards out. I did build a non-OC system for my parents on an ECS K7S5A though, works great.

2) T-bred delay delay delay. When I started planning this one I was going T-bred allt he way, but when it never materialized I got the P4. I must say, it is nice having an actual overheat safety factor too, no chance for fried CPU here.

I just hope they both keep up the competition...

[MadMan007]

Originally posted by skip
Let's see:

AMD 1.3 @ 1570 Personal Machine
Intel 700E @ 1085 Development Machine
Dual PIII 1000 Forums Server
Dual PIII 500 MySQL Server
Dual PIII 600 CPU Database SQL Server
Dual PIII 600 Web and Mail Server
AMD Tbird 700 @ 1100 Development Linux Box
AMD Classic Athlon 500 Server Monitor SNMP Box
PIII 866 Kids machine
DV450 IMac Kids machine

On the Shelf:

PIII 700E Slot 1
Duron 750
2 PPro 200's on a dual board (Just can't seem to give these up)
2 PIII 450 on a dual board
2 PII 300 SL2W8 (Run 450 at default all day long) on a dual board
2 PII 233 on a dual board
PII 400 Unlocked
Cyrix 166
Cyrix 233
Pentium 200

Sure would like to get a Dually AMD board for the MySQL Box :) These forums are really working the Dual PIII 500's hard!

jeez skip! you have more hardware collecting dust than most people have ever bought! /me asks: care to spare any of that stuff? :)

[alinosa]

just bought a new computer: Asus A7V333, XP 2100+, 512 MB Samsung 2700, Plextor 40X12X40, Maxtor 60 Gig, and Geforce4 Ti4400... upgraded from an OEM PIII-500.... YES it's WAY FASTER. AMD from now on!

[Shocker]

I'm just an intel guy!!

[Raiden]

I'm building a mini network...so will be using my
slow 400 mhz P2 as a gateway. I had an 8080XT so I just scrapped what I could and tossed it. I also had a Pentium 166 from Compaq, and also junked that for what I could rip out from the heart of the beast. Ok back to the network....my main machine is going to be my P4 2.4 ghz machine,
hopefully running at around 3 ghz. After that I'm going to wait and see what AMD and Intel come out with next and what the mobo makers do with it.

So to date... 4 Intels + possibly an AMD in the future.

[phillyTIM]

i've always had an intel, and still using the p3-600e that i built in may/2000. but looking to upgrade to something newer.

i'm put off by the bad fpu in the p4 compared to the great athlon one. maybe i'll get an athlon this time.

although the new p4 with rambus boards are tempting to me with 533 fsb. ugh
maybe i'll wait till amd hammer or the new intel prescott next year

[jabroni1m]

All I have ever used has been intel, but I might be moving to amd soon because of the cheap prices. Im a cheapo I guess.

[Patriot]

Intel Since the Socket Seven went obsolete. I prefer the reliability, stability and compatibility. I don't like the PRXXXX b.s. that AMD is doing to mislead the public. The uninformed will see a higher number and a lower $ and think it's a higher clock cheaper, when it's just some sales weenie's attempt at ripping off the public. Also, AMD bought NVIDIA, who bought 3dfx because they couldn't compete in the image quality arena. If you can't beat them...buy them out and close them. Screw the customer! Lovely company. I want NOTHING to do with either of them. :mad:

BTW: I'm also the proud owner of oneof the best graphics workstation of it's time, an Amiga. The salesweenies ruined it's chances with lousy marketing.

NEVER TRUST A SALES/MARKETING type!

The engineers can make a great product, the public will love it, but the business wonks will usially f*ck it up.

end of rant.

[jabroni1m]

Thats the way to express the opinion on how u feel about various companies. They are screwing us over.

[quegyboe]

I currently have an AMD Athlon 1.2Ghz in my gaming rig and an AMD K6-2 500mhz server. The Athlon system even uses the AMD 760 chipset. I am quite the fan of AMD, due to thier good price/performance ratio.

[Daovonnaex]

Currently, I have two overclocked Pentium 4A systems (one watercooled, one air-cooled, and the air-cooled is my LAN box), one virtually silent dual Pentium III Tualatin system, and a PowerBook G4 Titanium. Formerly, however, I used AMD Athlon based systems. Since I have processors from two different companies (Intel and Motorola), I chose both.

[lubetek]

main system: AMD 1.4 TB rig
backup system: Intel PIII600E rig

[jabroni1m]

AMD seems to be wooping some ass in this race. Maybe I should think of getting one of those xp 1800 or something instead of a pentium 4 1.6. The 1800 and other numbers for amd confuse me though cause why can't they just be 1.8 gig if it says 1800. Also I don't see any AMD with a 2.4 or 2.8.

[Sworkhard]

AMD!!

Ive gotten:
Operational:
1 Athon 1000@ default with stock heatsink. Will oc to 1.5 with better cooling (tried, tested, true)
1 Athlon 800 @950 with stock heatsink
Inoperational
1 Amd K6-2 3D (makes intel PII look stupid in floating point...)
2x Amd 486 66mhz and 100mhz

[paulc87]

intel pentium 166
amd k6-2 500
athlon xp 1900+

[CJ145]

I was the 385 person to vote. Intel only but maby AMD some day.

[LoRDhYpNOs]

Im sticking with AMD no doubt.My bro has a p4 across the room and that thing is pretty sweet though.

[Hawk]

P4 1.5 G running @ 2 GIG $20 heatsink and fan. 1 case fan. (My rig)
Intel 1.6 northwood can be bought for about $139 and chances are it will run above 2.2 gig cool and stable as a rock.

[Gideonflux]

Yeah Buddy:D Running my little P4 1.7 solid as a rock. Maybe i will give AMD a shot next time around:cool:

[macklin01]

Please don't flame me for what are probably some noobie-like comments. I've been very tempted by AMD chips, but have thus far held back.

Since it was my first-time system, I thought I'd give myself a break. I went Intel (815ep-b chipset, PIII tualatin) for the hardware compatability. I didn't want to worry about via vs. creative, via 4-in-1 vs. windows and nvidia, and the like. I know that these problems are surmountable, but I wanted my first system to have as few new variables to deal with.

Also, since Intel chips generally run cooler than AMD chips, I can keep my computer a bit quieter than it would otherwise be.

So, I guess Intel chips and chipsets, for their proven history and reliability/compatability with a sacrifice in performance.

[tlemaste]

I've got an Intel 600 in a retail box, a celeron 650 in my laptop, but my real toy is my AMD1.4. My personal thoughts are that Intel is in the same league as M$. Their products are excellent, there is no doubt about that. But by using AMD I can get some serious performance at a better price, as well as doing my part in fighting back against the WIntel conspiracy. :D I guess I just like to go with the underdog. That's just my $2.00 worth (inflation, you know).

[masitti]

I've got my XP 1600+ on the way right now, but for now, am using a Pentium III 515 MHz. It runs Windows XP ok, but I can tell it is getting older.

I chose the XP, because of price ($85!), and I've heard of nothing but good things about it. Plus I want to overclock it, so I can match it to a 1700 or 1800.

[Tismedt]

AMD is the way for now and the future. I currently have

1700+
Duron 1.2
Duron 1.0
Athlon 950
Duron 800

Though I also have on the shelf

PII 400
PII 350

[WayneDolesman]

Dang, Skip.. I thought I had a lot of machines!s

I prefer Intel for numerous reason..

Main PC- P4 1.8a@2Ghz (about to vidpin it)

Spare PC- TBird 1.2@1.2 (runs too hot to OC w/o better cooling)

Server - P3 800 (most stable PC I've ever worked on, PERIOD)

Laptop - P3 850 (pretty damn good laptop, except for a crappy Vid card)


That's what I have in my apartment..

[WayneDolesman]

Originally posted by texmaster
Intel

#1 No Via motherboards to mess with
#2 Far less heat issues
#3 Greatest hardware compatability (targeting VIA here)


#1 Thank god
#2 Anytime I build a an AMD system for someone, or someone asks me for AMD Advice, I ALWAYS tell them to buy a nice, big Alpha cooler.. because frankly, most Athlon's need it!
#3 Hell yes..

This is why I tend to only buy Intel. If AMD told VIA to take a hike, I'd be more apt to buy AMD stuff.. Too bad Intel doesn't make AMD Chipsets! heh (seriously, it's too bad!)

Also.. I'm not sure why people thing the DDR platforms are the fastest - because they're not. RDRAM is, according to all the big sites and pretty much all the small ones too..

And I thought this was an interesting write up: http://www.emulators.com/docs/pentium_4.htm

The guy clearly states that AMD had been the previously superior CPU.. up until recently (I.E. Northwood)

[Solid Snake]

AMD rulzs
When i was ready to bought my new pc i did some test between my friends PCs and i finally decided for AMD for price, realibility and pf course price
For me AMD is much better than intel
for me
Intel sucks
AMD rulzs
see ya guys

[goodolamd]

<---------------------i think it is pretty obvious whats in my rig

[Lord_of_Decay]

I happen to use both. My main rig is an AMD, my second rig is a P3. I have had no regrets making the switch to AMD.

[Zygotic]

from a economical standpoint AMD Hands down more bang for the buck

from a performance side I like Intel they run cooler and seem to be less fickle.

[AntecRep]

Started with a slot 700 (now in mom's system), then Socket 700, 950 and now xp1500.

AntecRep

[WayneDolesman]

I love people who say "Intel sucks".. :laffs:

They probably don't even know the inherit technical differences between the XP and P4 CPU's.. they just say "so and so sucks because I like the other guy"..

Much like how Linux fanatics say "Microsoft sucks" just because it's trendy to be different and run Linux.

Grow up people.

[Intraveinous]

Originally posted by Zygotic
from a economical standpoint AMD Hands down more bang for the buck
from a performance side I like Intel they run cooler and seem to be less fickle.

Agreed... I went back to Intels because I was tired of two things.

1. Via Chipsets... No matter how good everyone says they are, I've always managed to get the unstable one of the batch or something.

2. Heat, and it's sister, NOISE... I used to be able to have an MC462 with a Delta 68CFM like many other people, but then I got hyper-sensitized to the noise. My Celeron 1.2 runs with a Glaciator II slowed down with a resistor, and Panaflo L1A 24CFM 80mms dialed down with a rheostat circulating air around the case. My next purchase is going to be one of the quiet Seagate Ultra ATA 4 drives that make less than 30 decibels of noise. Currently, my WD 30Gig is the loudest component in my computer.

Peace
John

[markus]

intel all the way,ive o.c my 1.6a to 2550 stable cpu temp 23-27c air cooled,ive seen ppl o.c them to 2800,you can't beat that,seems like amd's,no ofense to anyone i see amd's 1.2 oc to 1.5,thats not very high,but im no expert neither,i been an intel from the start,amds had many probs in the begining,

even newer amds i don't high o.c margins.no flame war,just i like intel,they are cooler,i guess,i don't no much about amds..my 2 cents

[jd300]

intel presently , but i have an amd t-bird machine 1.33 i liked it very much but i sold it to a friend made me an offer and fell in love with my machine

[markus]

an artical i found at hardware central...for ppl that says intel sucks..this is suposed be friendly here,no flame wars..anyways go read it,its not real long,its in there fourms,i found there.
http://discussions.hardwarecentral.com/Forum2/HTML/012925.html


titled AMD's worst fault in the recent months/years,doesn't mean alot,everyone has ther opions,i just thought i would post this..but for the ppl says intel or amd sucks here,this was supossed to be a frendly disscussion,not no stupid flameing intel or amd..my 2 cents.

if anyone has articlels from any forums about amd and or intel.post em,let ppl read em,doesn't matter if intels prices are higher,etc,etc..

[Zoso]

I've :
--->PIII500@640
--->Duron1000@1403 (AHHAA)
--->XP1700+@1964 (AGOGA Y)
--->XP1600+@?????(AGOGA Y)

......OLAAAAAAAAAAA by Zoso

[pommie]

mmmmmmmm

AMD is unreliable and burnout,

Look at my sig, three and a half years at that o/c

AMD have hardware issue's,

started with an INTEL 850, then diamond 2 meg 2d plus one voodoo 2, then 2 of em ( sli ), cooked them now running with banshee no problems at all.

I have just recomended my friend to buy a P4, he needs a very quiet comp, so although I will only ever use AMD ( 1800+ soon :D ) I will never knock what the other guy chooses to use.

After all its their money ... lots of it :rolleyes:
:beer:

[markus]

http://www.theinquirer.net/05060206.htm yeah they print b.s sometimes,digiatimes confirms the k8 slow perforance,its not compled yet,hopely,even though im an intel fan,it works out ok.i thought i would post this..ive heard before that amds run too hot,from seeing systems with amds with watercooling running in the 40c range,some below that..it should run alot lower than that..my 1.6a as stated before,runs from 23-27,with my 1.9 willie its running 28c..im gona go watercooling,i'll prob get it in the teens c,i never used watercooling yet,i can't pro0ve it..hehe


It's a strange story but reflects one true and important fact -- AMD is giving the impression of having a big window of misopportunity that it's stepping right into.

We're hearing worrying things about the Thoroughbred family as well. The XP 2200+ is still scheduled to be introduced next week sometime but sources familiar with machines using the CPU say it's running hotter than hot, despite the .13 micron core that should help make things cooler.

And the benchmarks are not as impressive as some had hoped, according to one manufacturer here close to AMD's plans.

Intel people here seem to have had an attack of schadenfreude about AMD's apparent dilemma. The gravy train, they believe, stays rolling by bringing out peak performing CPUs at very regular intervals. We detect a note of anxiety from Intel, however - people we've talked to wonder if, indeed, AMD is cooking up some delightful K8 pastry that will floor them in the continuing megahurts hooplah.

In fact, the Digitimes story winds up saying that AMD wouldn't be able to deliver enough processors to satisfy demand in August anyway, while it also claims that there won't be solid sales from the K8 family until next year.

Given Heye's solid statement about a December release date for the uniprocessor Hammer, we'd say that's probably true.

[Malakai]

Originally posted by WayneDolesman



#1 Thank god
#2 Anytime I build a an AMD system for someone, or someone asks me for AMD Advice, I ALWAYS tell them to buy a nice, big Alpha cooler.. because frankly, most Athlon's need it!
#3 Hell yes..

This is why I tend to only buy Intel. If AMD told VIA to take a hike, I'd be more apt to buy AMD stuff.. Too bad Intel doesn't make AMD Chipsets! heh (seriously, it's too bad!)

Also.. I'm not sure why people thing the DDR platforms are the fastest - because they're not. RDRAM is, according to all the big sites and pretty much all the small ones too..

And I thought this was an interesting write up: http://www.emulators.com/docs/pentium_4.htm

The guy clearly states that AMD had been the previously superior CPU.. up until recently (I.E. Northwood)

sorry to rehash an old post but...

If AMD told VIA to take a hike, they would be the dumbest company in the world.

VIA makes some kick ass blazin fast chipsets, even the p4X333 (i think name is correct) really whoops the 845ddr (in 266 mode) AND the 850 (in 333 mode)
check Anandtech for more info on the badassness of new VIA chipsets.

VIA used to duck, but they rock now. and the soundblaster crap is not VIA's fault, never has. thats creatives fault for making teh suck drivers, and only thinking of intel while writing them.

and still AMD all the way, im not a fanboy, AMD has been nothing but good to me and Intel shows me nothing i like yet.

Northy's are ok, but id rather a 2ghz XP than a 3ghz Northy any day of the week.
i would ake a 2200+ (if i could unlock it, if not a 2000+) ocer a 2.2ghz northy any day, and until i find out what Tbred can do, definately no intel for me. And if i did get a Northy, id want at least the 2ghz version so i caould bring it too 3ghz w. RDRAM (1066). but that would only be a temp thing till Barton plus DDRII.

in my book, AMD will continue to be the best chip, but kudos for both companies for keeping prices on the cheap (all AMD's and the 1.8a and less Intel's)

-Malakai

[Malakai]

Originally posted by markus
http://www.theinquirer.net/05060206.htm yeah they print b.s sometimes,digiatimes confirms the k8 slow perforance,its not compled yet,hopely,even though im an intel fan,it works out ok.i thought i would post this..ive heard before that amds run too hot,from seeing systems with amds with watercooling running in the 40c range,some below that..it should run alot lower than that..my 1.6a as stated before,runs from 23-27,with my 1.9 willie its running 28c..im gona go watercooling,i'll prob get it in the teens c,i never used watercooling yet,i can't pro0ve it..hehe


It's a strange story but reflects one true and important fact -- AMD is giving the impression of having a big window of misopportunity that it's stepping right into.

We're hearing worrying things about the Thoroughbred family as well. The XP 2200+ is still scheduled to be introduced next week sometime but sources familiar with machines using the CPU say it's running hotter than hot, despite the .13 micron core that should help make things cooler.

And the benchmarks are not as impressive as some had hoped, according to one manufacturer here close to AMD's plans.

Intel people here seem to have had an attack of schadenfreude about AMD's apparent dilemma. The gravy train, they believe, stays rolling by bringing out peak performing CPUs at very regular intervals. We detect a note of anxiety from Intel, however - people we've talked to wonder if, indeed, AMD is cooking up some delightful K8 pastry that will floor them in the continuing megahurts hooplah.

In fact, the Digitimes story winds up saying that AMD wouldn't be able to deliver enough processors to satisfy demand in August anyway, while it also claims that there won't be solid sales from the K8 family until next year.

Given Heye's solid statement about a December release date for the uniprocessor Hammer, we'd say that's probably true.

dude, thats all specualtion.
all of the inquirer info is heresay, take it with a grain of salt.

none of it is fact

-Malakai

[markus]

via i think is starting to ge there chips better and better,they used to be crap,i read and artical,foramd fans,amd claims clawhammer will out perform the intel,then i read intel will beat amd buy 50-100% in perforance,this is right,its all spectalation right now,until these chips actauly come out with benchmarks,for both intel and amd.

maybe someday i will buy an amd,but until they get more stable im sticking to intels northwoods,with out the northwoods,intel would cpus would be at amds level,higher heat not overclcokable that much.

i read the clawhammer will not be overclockable..like the one dude said,its all specalation right now,until these new chips come out:))i wasn't trying to flame amd..without intels northwoods,intel wood suck..

[Malakai]

Originally posted by markus
via i think is starting to ge there chips better and better,they used to be crap,i read and artical,foramd fans,amd claims clawhammer will out perform the intel,then i read intel will beat amd buy 50-100% in perforance,this is right,its all spectalation right now,until these chips actauly come out with benchmarks,for both intel and amd.

maybe someday i will buy an amd,but until they get more stable im sticking to intels northwoods,with out the northwoods,intel would cpus would be at amds level,higher heat not overclcokable that much.

i read the clawhammer will not be overclockable..like the one dude said,its all specalation right now,until these new chips come out:))i wasn't trying to flame amd..without intels northwoods,intel wood suck..

I said they could be really hard to o/c because there will be no FSB to o/c, and no FSB means no multi's, but they have to clock the thing somehow, and we will always find a way to turn em up.

u should check out the Clawhammer benchmarks thread in AMD CPU's. someone at computex benched their 800mhz engineering sample, and the results are quite amazing

-Malakai

[therealtobigtof]

AMD is the cheaper way to go.

I am very new to this yet my AMD's have always been good to me.

[Tracert]

hmm,

For my personal PC's (My parents owned others before but I will only start with ones I can call my own).

1) P75 @ 90
2) P120 @ 133
3) P166 @ 200
4) PII233 @ 233 (Cache = FSB back then, wouldn't go faster)
5) Celery 400 @ 400 (had a FIC mb with no OC options)
6) Duron 800 @ 992
7) 1800+ @ 1640 (Only using a Volcano 5 for $7.00)

Want to go P4's with RDRam but just cant spend twice to three times the money for about 5 to 10 % increase.

[hateshino]

i have all amd so far, a k6-3 400 @450 for my old box, an Athlon 1.4 for my box....but....
i couldnt pass the chance for getting a free p2 350 128mb bow and p3-750 320mb box
hehe
but amd is still better

[markus]

well for now im sticking to intels,ive read the throubreads isn't that great..hopely they amd does resolve some issues,like too much heat..better overclocking,then i would maybe buy one..i never owned an amd..so i can't comment..

as for being cheaper,you can buy a 1.6a for 135 bucks,overclock it,on mine close to 2600 ghz,then the 1.8a's are cheaper too,around 165 and can be overclocked even more.i see the xps over 200 bucks,for the 2200 xp.which my guess is 2 ghz..

i don't see that being cheaper..and thats for 2 ghz or less speed ,until amd comes out with a good proscessor,im staying with intel..yeah intels are higher,there cooler and overclockable.

with out amds though,intels prices would be though the roof..intel has screwed up to in the past..no flameing,just my 2 cents.i would rather pay alittle more for more power.intel and amds both have good and bad,in benchmarks..

my last resonse here.just wanted to add another reply:)good luck to both intel and amd in future cpu's:)hehe

[evoltech]

atm:
p4 2.26b <--just bought 3 days ago :)
p4 1.5mhz
p3 600eb mhz @ 666mhz
p3 500mhz
celeron 500mhz

~peace

[Admiral Falcon]

AMD only.

Intel lost my trust when they built tracer code into the P3 line of chips. Though it could be disabled with a patch; any software can be hacked given enough time and enough work. They don't say whether or not it's also in the P4, but I am highly skeptical of Intel's commitment to consumer privacy.

AMD's chips are more efficient, as they do more work per clock cycle. This is why a 1.4G T-bird can beat a 1.8 P4 (albeit slightly). Also, with AMD I won't have to use RDRAM - which is good because I refuse to spend $1000+ on MEMORY.

I agree that the fastest P4 with RDRAM will beat the fastest AMD chip with DDR memory, but AMD offers good performance on a budget. And for those of us who don't own multinational corporations, AMD gives us the most bang for the buck.

[imgod2u]

Where have you been? RDRAM pricing has dropped significantly. You can get a 256MB PC800 module for less than $100. The highest quality 32ns PC1066 module costs like $150 for a 256MB module. There's also all those DDR SDRAM chipsets out there for the P4.

Also, the P3 does not have "trace code". It has a unique serial number like the cereal box you bought at the grocery store. I suppose General Mills is stalking you as well? The serial number only identifies the chip and is a method to determine that a computer accessing a site will be the same computer that accesses the same site later on. Oh, and btw, the thing used to disable it is part of the bios, which is pretty much set once your computer is turned on, so no, there is no way to hack it.

[ZeroAquaduct]

I'm using both AMD and Intel. The Intel is a C433 though, so I don't use it a lot anymore. AMD has a much better price than Intel, so that's the main reason why I went for it.

[Matthew1001]

AMD Processors: 3 out of 4 agree

[Maxvla]

so far ive used a K6-2 500 o/c to 550 and my current athlon tbird.

though i voted intel cause my 1.6a is in the mail!!! once i get that my amd will be passed around the family leaving me with just the intel.

[highacker]

:cool: i recently jumped from a celly 700 on asus board to a athlon xp 1600+ on a kt3 ultra mainboard, and the diference is waaaaayyy much better, i know it sounds kind of obvious but i've seen 550 k62's jumping by were i am know and there's not a lot of overall difference.

long life to AMD USERS!!!

[donny_paycheck]

It's a simple choice, really.

AMD's FPU owns, spanks and violates Intel's!

I do Folding@Home. Folding@Home relies on the floating point math unit in the CPU to do it's work. AMD's floating point unit grabs Intel's by the nose and kicks it in the ass. Even with over a 1ghz clock speed advantage a Northwood at 3ghz can't fold a protein with anything more than 10% less the speed of a stock clocked XP 1800+. That's right. 1533mhz vs. 3000mhz and the 1533 chip comes out on top with a 10% speed advantage.

Plus, the differences between Athlons and P4s in other arenas is miniscule and the leader changes names with each test. That isn't enough to sway me to the P4 side.

Long live AMD!
but I do have a pair of P3 733mhz/2mb Xeons that are kinda nice

[Silversinksam]

I guarantee you this has changed as this poll started prior to the Intel Northwood becoming popular.

We may need to run it again ;)

But then again All the mods and Admins are AMDites and Im going to have to figure this poll thing out myself....last time I tried I accidently formatted Cw823's computer remotely....but thats a good thing right?

[Tracert]

Hey SSS,

Is it true that people buy Intel with large Mhz to make up for... well, shall we say other areas that they believe to be inadequate?

(Of course I'm joking, you know I got nothing but love for you, and the rest of the Intel crowd. I am part of the Intel crowd half the time).

[HaywirE]

AMD, I have a Dell P3, it stinks. I had a thought in my mind about Intel, but im sticking w/ AMD.

[JetMech]

Why do I use my P4 for the main work and my AMDs for Folding. And why do I treat my AMDs as if I'm working with eggs. HHmmmm. What's up wit dat?:D

[Comrade]

Personally I use AMD. Ever since Intel created the P4 I've lost all faith. I was at the (comp) store the other day, and there was a guy who was waiting for some help from the owner.
I started talking with him.
He wanted an Intel mobo.
I asked if he had bought the Intel chip yet.
He said no.
I said, "AMD's better, you know."
He said, "Well I'm building a system for home and one for work, so I can't mess around and find out it doesn't work."

WHAT INSOLENCE! :mad:

[JetMech]

Originally posted by Comrade
Personally I use AMD. Ever since Intel created the P4 I've lost all faith. I was at the (comp) store the other day, and there was a guy who was waiting for some help from the owner.
I started talking with him.
He wanted an Intel mobo.
I asked if he had bought the Intel chip yet.
He said no.
I said, "AMD's better, you know."
He said, "Well I'm building a system for home and one for work, so I can't mess around and find out it doesn't work."

WHAT INSOLENCE! :mad: And there lies the rub.
People know that if they go Intel (no matter what the cost) they will have a solid system. With AMD they have to be convinced because outside the enthusiast market It's not that well known. And what do you tell him after saying it's better. OH and be sure to get a case that has lots of fans and I wouldn't advise using the stock HSF? He's going with what he knows. Intel has solid components even if they aren't the fastest thing out there.:)

[imgod2u]

It's funny how you can make fun of people who know nothing but Intel and at the same time have such an irrational bias for AMD. That very statement "AMD is better" is nothing but your opinion and you say it like it was the word of some divine being.
This is how flame wars get started, some AMD fanboy states his opinion as fact and someone calls him on it.

[Darkpie]

I use both. I have a 1Gig Duron and a P3 933 Mhz system.

Yes Intell is high priced and AMD is cheep. I thank they are both good CPU's it is all up to you to say what one is the best. In Fact they are both good and Bad they both have ther Up's and Down's




good luck to you all

[Thomas H]

i plan on getting an AMD xp 1600 i hope soon. well maybe i've been saying that for awhile.

[hateshino]

the subject says it, whats your current box?

[Kronarq]

AMD all the way baby! Don't get me wrong I am thinking about building an intel rig but I just like amd's idea's of sales and marketing and amd is catching on almost all non-techies buy prefab garbage and u have to admit that makes up huge portion of cpu sales. intel raked in the dough in this area with no competition but now amd is in prefabs also while i hate prefabs it makes amd money to keep on making great cpu's sooo

[=[8c0re8]=]

I have 2 Intel chips an 3 AMD chips.
1 Celeron 1.3 O/C@ 1.433 an a PIII600@800
Then theres the AMD 900@1072 an the T-Bird 1.4@1533 on a KG7 MB an the last one is my game rig which is a XP2000+
on a MSIKT3 Ultra ARU. 1.66@1.8.

so i guess i like both...:o)

"In the Abundace of water the fool iz thirsty"

[Audioaficionado]

Intel by default. See sig.

AMD is looking great to my pocket book. I've always tried to get the most bang for my bux.

The $200 I save on the core components [cpu, mobo, ddr] could buy a really nice HD and video card or a bigger monitor.

[bob_the_d]

currently humping it out on an old PIII-850 mhz proc.
going to build a new system and rig it up with a new athlon XP+ proc... that is if they're still in business by the time i get there. :)

[Nico3k]

main rig = amd forever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever............................... sorry its just my love for the chip :p

[ATLPIMP]

Main system is a 2000+ at 11X163 1.75V

[lonewolf1983]

system in sig

formerly an AMD user
moved to the dark side ;)

[azureblu12]

i use amd

[jspam]

I have used AMD for the past 2 years.

Use AMD and Intel.... Support my stocks!!! :D

[---X---]

I use all Intel now, because I bought OEM :eh?:

Im going to go AMD soon on a budget rig, but my next main setup will be Intel, only because of the special attributes of a particular motherboard....*evil grin* hehe :p

But really product loyalty in one direction or another is really stupid...I go with what works best :D

[Comrade]

Originally posted by imgod2u
It's funny how you can make fun of people who know nothing but Intel and at the same time have such an irrational bias for AMD. That very statement "AMD is better" is nothing but your opinion and you say it like it was the word of some divine being.
This is how flame wars get started, some AMD fanboy states his opinion as fact and someone calls him on it.

Yeah you have a good point.

Seeing as I like the Celeron (w/o P4 base), the PIII, the PII, and the PI...

"AMD is better" is extremely generalized, but he wanted a P4 system. An AMD Athlon XP with the same clock speed will perform better. So AMD is better in that situation. Without overclocking the proc the AMD is going to be just as stable and functional. ;)

Fanboy? Ha. More like logically-persuaded. I used to prefer Intel chips when they were better than AMD's offerings (K6-2's).

[roYal]

intel. Sooner or later i'll try out amd.

[el]

amd rulz! was intel now amd so I voted both.

[Malakai]

Originally posted by el
amd rulz!

ROFL!

for some odd reason that made me laugh really loud:)

[Biohazard]

Both.. Simply cos my first real pc was an AMD K6-2 500Mhz and my Second Machine Was a Duron 900Mhz which is about to be replaced 2day by my Pentium4 2.26b.... reason for Intel is that i fell unsure about this XP stuff but im gonna get a 2200xp soon! so we shall see!

[SeedTick?]

I use both. It's kinda like politics, I'm Independent voting for Dems and Reps?

[Dreamkiller]

I made a system last summer with a T-Bird 1.333 mainly cuz it was kicking major P3 ass during that time. I loved every moment i had this cpu. I might try out P4s on my next system [ or what ever intel has like p5 or something ]. I like AMD cuz prices are so much cheaper. AMD needs to do something about those heating problems thier cpu has tho. Damnit, when are they gonna start looking at intel cpus and add that "shim" on?

[ATLPIMP]

Those sound like some crazy cars! Do you have any pics of them?

I've been considering getting some parts from Japan, but they wanted a lot to get the parts here. How much were the import fees on them?

[Army_Of_1]

AMD ALL the way! Cheaper and Faster, what more can ya ask?

[ozzlo]

I go for AMD All the way but my dream setup is a dual xeon @ 2.4
(who woulden't wan't that)