Please help- Im thick

[nickk]

Ok, Im new to this board, so Hello Everyone, im after alittle advice about overclocking my computer, I have reasonable knowlege of computers, however im very , very new to all this overclocking, and I was looking for some advise on how to improve my machine.

This is what I have :-

Viglen Genie P3 600
CC820 Motherboard,
Aopen Geforce2 GTS card,
128 ram,

My main reason for trying to get the computer running quicker is that im finding games etc are not as smooth as I would like etc, I recently purchased my new Geforce2 GTS card to replace my old Nvidia Vanta card, to hopefully increase smoothness, however I can't say im over pleased with its improvements, which makes me think the rest of my system is holding me back??? Is this true???

Basically any info, on how I can improve the system or anything would be very, very appreciated.

Thanks

Nick

[Zuck Gou :)]

Hmmm, most games should run just fine on that system at reasonable settings (800x600).

The video card is good for all new games so ya like you said that isn't your problem.

I geuss overclocking the processor is a good place to start to see if its the problem.

Overclocking any CPU is done by raising the multiplier or frontside bus of it.

So a Celeron 667 runs on a 66mhz FSB, then the multiplier is 10.

Now unlike AMD, Intel has neutered their chips so multipliers can't be changed. So your only option is to raise the FSB.

Not familiar witht he board, is it an OEM?

If you have the manual look in it for either jumper settings to change the FSB, or it could be changed in the bios.

I suggest going to overclockers.com and getting a very good understanding of how overclockin works before attempting it.

Cooling is always first!

Good luck and if you need any help this is the place to get it.

[nickk]

Thanks mate for the advice, could you possibly give me a quick run down how to access the bios and what and how much to adjust it.

I've had a good butchers at www.overclockers.com, so im getting a resonable idea (Theory) of it all, just need a little hands on advice so to speak.

As you say cooling does seem to be very important which is why I only want to increase its speed a little.

Thanks again

[UnseenMenace]

In order to increase the FSB you may have to exter the bios usually accessed by pressing delete on start up, you may however NOT have the options that you require in the bios and may have to result to using jumpers on the motherboard. Refer to your motherboard manual for this information.

Remember to watch your tempratures when overclocking

[Endeavor]

WELCOME TO THE FORUMS!
HAVE A BEER ON ME!!! ;)
but like mentioned before,
watch those temps!!

[Zuck Gou :)]

Adjust the FSB one step at a time.

Boot up and run all your programs, if it doesn't crash or freeze, your in business and can go and try to bump it up another notch.

When you hit the limit, a voltage adjustment will probably be necessary to hit the next FSB.

Your manual should tell you if there's voltage adjustment on board (jumpers or dipswitches) or it may also be in the bios.

Be weary though, changing the voltage results in more heat.

Tell us your results
Good luck

[nickk]

Right, thanks everyone, been looking at the "Ye old manual" :)
and it looks like im going to have to open the machine up :(
It talks about jumpers so I can set the Bios into configuration mode. Althought the manual discribes nothing about FSB, it just describes that you can select the required overall proccessing power.
I was really hoping not to have to open the machine but hey oh well, I just wish there was someone that has had experience with my type of motherboard.
Is there any software you can get which can improve processing speed by itself or is that just asking for a miracle :)

Thanks again

Nick

[markedmundb]

Sounds just like a camino-based board (uses RAMBUS memory- has a cap blocking one of the RAM slots?). If it's an actual Intel one then sorry, you're screwed.

Intel mobos are renouned for lack of FSB settings (they don't want you to OC.) If it's not an Intel one, then chances are you still wont be able to OC a great deal.

The Camino (i820) had plenty of problems to do with RAM timings, extra-long RAM tracks, etc, etc, which is why it wasn't embraced by a wider group of mobo makers (I think mobos were made by Intel and one or two other makers- none known for their OCing boards...

If you wanna know more go to The Register (http://www.theregister.co.uk) (an IT news site, and type "Camino" into the search field.

Hope this helps, good luck.

[nickk]

Thanks for the advice, I really don't know enough about motherboards to let you know what type it is, perhaps if I list a few things in the manuel which describes it you might be able to guess a little more, sorry if any of the following is useless or has nothing to do with the motherboard :-

Viglen CC820 Motherboard,

Apparently it contains Intels MMX technology,
256KB of 2nd-level cache ,
133 MHz system bus frequency,
Intel 820 AGP Chipset,

and the proccessor is a 600EB ,

God im useless at hardware :(

I must admit the manuel lists nothing about changing FSB or voltage settings, just tells you how to select the proccessing speed of a new processor??

If this is as you say intels way of stopping OC is there anything else I can do far short of changing motherboards to improve perforamce, or am I just lumbered with a really s**t motherboard???

[nickk]

Oh dear, looks like you were right, been looking on " The registry" as you suggested and yep the CC820 is the so called Intel Cape cod , what ever that means, although I do have SDRAM, unlike the VC820 which has Rambus like you said.
So does this mean im up the creak without a paddle :(
Do I have the lamest motherboard available? :( Is there anything I can do?????

[samuknow]

It seems you have reached a crossroad.

In order to OC your PIII you are going to need a new mobo.

I would recomend doing a little research on which mobo to purchase. Get facts, pricing, and a little past experience form our fine members here.


Good luck, and welcome

[nickk]

IT gets worse :( the more I read about the CC820 the worse it gets.

I had no choice in anything to do with the computer as it was suplied from Viglen via my fathers University. However reading the reports it says that the mobo was recalled, surly "Viglen" shouldn't be supplieing computers with this mobo, if they wanted to use the 820 chipset they should have used the VC820 mobo, as this mobo didn't have as many problems. The computer is only about a year or so old, this has not impressed me :(

Anyway thanks to everyone that has posted on this thread you have all been very helpful........thankyou.

[Slake]

Welcome to the forums! I bet you can find a good used mobo at the classifieds section available at the home page (left side about one screen down) of www.overclockers.com (http://www.overclockers.com)