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Psykoikonov

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Finally took my 2x256 OCz 3500 EL out of my DFI LP revA where it would not go stable above 208MHz with slack timings 2-4-2-4-11, and put them in my DFI UI. Well......they just primed for 8 hours (so far) at 235MHz 2-2-2-2-11. Had to up the vdimm from 2.9V to 3.0V to get stable. It was stable @ 230MHz 2-2-2-2-11 @ 2.9V though. Does this mean they're BH-5 chips?? They're not yet old enough for me to justify take off the sticker for a look. Please post info anyone has on running tight timings on non bh5 chips @ 230MHz or above on 3.0V or less. I bought them in January in Canada.

Thanx
Psyko
 
Try running them at 5-2-2-2 & see what happens. I can get my Bh-6 (Mushkin Special 222) to run 5-2-2-2 timings at 230 fsb/w 3.3 volts. If I lowered the voltage the Bh-6's would not run at the speed I indicated.

Higher the volts, the higher they'll probably run. Sounds like Bh-5 though from what I have read. (best way to know is take the heatspreaders off :eek: )
 
Some of the post 2004 CH5 is doing speeds like BH5 does. They have refined their .13 process.
 
Well thanx for the reply guys. Looks like I won't know for sure for awhile as I just don't want to take the heat spreaders off. I'll keep posted how they do though.

Psyko
 
Whats the big deal with taking the heatspreads off?

I don't understand why people are so hesitant to do so.
 
i did the first day i got mine :X , who cares really. If it matters that much then dont get into comp hardware bc you are going to void alot of warrentys!
 
OK then riddle me this.
a) how do I take spreaders off without hurting anything. Can I possibly damage the conductive material between?
b) it has currently primed @ 235 2-2-2-2-11 @ 3.0V for 18 hours and has so far primed for 2 hours (first 4 tests complete) @ 245 2-2-2-2-11 @ 3.1V, what do you's think now? Any point in still taking a look? If I can get to 250x10 @ 2-2-2-2-6 I'd be happy (I know my mobility is more than capable :D).

Regarding voiding warranties I'm getting up there
:mad: on hardware that should have been returned for another.

Thanx for the help guys
Psyko
 
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Why don't you just call OCz and ask them what kind of chips they are. That way you don't have to worry about the heatspreaders. Besides, don't you have to replace that thermal Tape that holds them on? Sounds like a hassle.
 
I really dont think it matters. Its either BH5 or BH6. Anyhoo those are some fine chips u got there...I really need to volt mod meh NF7 :(
 
What {PMS}fishy said.

It's also just as easy to open the spreaders with fingers alone, enough to read your chips. And if that's too much, stick a fan connector in there to hold it open while using a good light and magnifier to read the numbers.

Since ppl can get CH-5 to run at 11-2-2-2 @ 250FSB; using timings to tell if it's BH-5 is iffy.
 
BTank said:
Since ppl can get CH-5 to run at 11-2-2-2 @ 250FSB; using timings to tell if it's BH-5 is iffy.

Not to say i don't believe you, but who? My CH5 wont do 250FSB @ 2.5-3-3-6(Default timings) let alone @ 2-2-2.
 
Well it primed @ 245MHz 2-2-2-2-11 3.2V (primed for 4 hours before error @ 3.1V) for 20 hours and has now completed the first test @ 250.5Mhz (501Mhz) with 2-2-2-2-11 @ 3.2V :D . I'm thinking it don't matter what's under those spreaders...they kick :eek: :eek: :eek: (OCz 3500 (DDR433) EL 2x256 kit in DFI UI for those that forgot) ;).

Psyko
 
Digital_Cowboy said:


Not to say i don't believe you, but who? My CH5 wont do 250FSB @ 2.5-3-3-6(Default timings) let alone @ 2-2-2.


Its the new CH5 chips produced in year 2004. Winbond has greatly refined their manufacturing proccess.
 
Psykoikonov said:
Well it primed @ 245MHz 2-2-2-2-11 3.2V (primed for 4 hours before error @ 3.1V) for 20 hours and has now completed the first test @ 250.5Mhz (501Mhz) with 2-2-2-2-11 @ 3.2V :D . I'm thinking it don't matter what's under those spreaders...they kick :eek: :eek: :eek: (OCz 3500 (DDR433) EL 2x256 kit in DFI UI for those that forgot) ;).

Psyko

and thats all that matters
 
CH-5 KHX3500, W9425008CH-5 0330WI
This was 2-3-2-11 cpc on, dual, 3.2v

250_CH5.JPG


Have to have 3.0v or more to push through the internal voltage regulator. 2-2-2-11 was 247 i think. On a DFI board, at least, ppl can run 3.3 volts, CPC off (2T), single channel, etc. to get it.
 
I'm thinking it don't matter what's under those spreaders...they kick
I would tend to agree. :D As long as they're performing like that then they've got to be something good. Either really good CH-5, or more like BH-5/6.
 
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