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BladeRunner
08-08-01, 12:45 PM
My project to make my PC silent & fan free:-
http://www.zytec.worldonline.co.uk/pictures/jpgs/asusv8200watercooled2small.jpg (http://www.zytec.worldonline.co.uk/pictures/jpgs/asusv8200watercooled2.jpg) http://www.zytec.worldonline.co.uk/pictures/jpgs/water-cooledsmall.jpg (http://www.zytec.worldonline.co.uk/pictures/jpgs/water-cooled.jpg)
http://www.zytec.worldonline.co.uk/pictures/jpgs/tankreadysmall.jpg (http://www.zytec.worldonline.co.uk/pictures/jpgs/tankready.jpg) http://www.zytec.worldonline.co.uk/pictures/jpgs/hole5small.jpg (http://www.zytec.worldonline.co.uk/pictures/jpgs/hole3.jpg)
If you want to know more download this detailed report in a Zipped Word document format. It will hopefully be up on a site sometime soon ;)
Project Stealth Cooling (http://www.zytec.worldonline.co.uk/files/ProjectStealthCooling.zip)
Frost Byte
08-08-01, 02:37 PM
*scratches head*
BladeRunner
08-08-01, 03:23 PM
Click the link, save the file, it's only 1.4mb and all should become clear, far easier that trying to explain it all on a BBS
RickTalbot
08-08-01, 03:40 PM
Bladrunner, totally amazing setup! Geothermal is the way to go!
One question though, why do you have a small reservoir with the pump in it? Is it to keep the pump cool? Otherwise you could just have the pump in-line and do without the tupperware.
Also, how many years would the buried connections last before corroding and breaking?
Awesome work!
RedDeathDrinker
08-08-01, 03:44 PM
Now that's a cooling system and a half...............
BladeRunner
08-08-01, 04:24 PM
At the end of the report you'll noticed I say I just had to bodge it up quick to get it running The Eheim running out of a Tupperware box is the bodge and the quickest way was to drop the Ehiem into that box. :D At least its working ok while I do the proper pipe work for the central heating pump. There will be a smaller res above PC level , (mainly as a visible level check / expansion / header tank).
The Tank will rust eventually, but it will take a while. This is not the final build anyway as I'm currently living in a mobile home while building my house, (hence the JCB), so I'll need to put a tank nearer the house. The tank burying part may look extreme but is pretty easy with access to a digger and it's also fairly cheap to do so it's no biggie.
The Pipe is Nylon or polyurethane pneumatic tube which is non biodegradable and lasts forever as far as I know, (longer than me anyway) ;) , The tank fittings are brass and stainless steel so they should last a while too.
Not sure the temps are going to be as low as I would have liked or assumed. It's currently 16°C coolant temp in a 28°C ambient, (dropping about 1°C per day atm). It may need to be deeper so when I do the next one I'll go down 16 foot and maybe two stage it. Not sure this cooling would cope with peltiers running 24/ 7 without being bigger & deeper. Either way for my use 16°C is better than air or air-cooled watercooling systems and it is free to run, other than pump.
If you want this posted as an article, just send me the pics as separate jpgs and text as a doc file - this is the second one like this I have seen.
Joe Citarella
BladeRunner
08-08-01, 05:24 PM
Not sure it would make much sense unless it was laid out as in the word document, but I know nothing about web site creation
Was the other one you've seen this: -
http://www.fatnfast.com/otherwebs/overclocked
If not I'd be interested in seeing anymore set-ups like this.
RickTalbot
08-08-01, 07:47 PM
Bladerunner,
I just thought of a potential problem with your setup.
Because your computer is connected to water hoses which run into an underground reservoir, it looks like your PC is directly electrically *grounded*. If not by the hoses, then by the water in the hoses.
I can see a situation where a lightning strike is now given an alternative way to reach ground, and that alternative is through your PC. So your PC could be destroyed, and risk your life if you're sitting near it. Smaller surges might also decide to migrate through your PC instead of through the standard house grounding.
I have no idea how risky your setup is, but I'd look into getting a very-heavy duty surge/lightning arrestor for your PC, if only to be sure.
Rick.
speedy4500
08-08-01, 07:50 PM
lol what a coincidence i was just reading about your project on another forum and was this close to posting a link in here
BladeRunner
08-09-01, 05:10 AM
Thanks for the concern but I'm not sure you fully understand what lightening strikes do. Sorry if this is not technical but all they want is to ground out so try to find the path of least resistance to earth. this can involve any good conductor especially metal..... pylons, wet trees & wet people, even airplanes until they find it's not attached to the ground ;) As my cooling tank is already in the ground it is buried and as such earthed.
The PC is also fully protected. I'm currently living in a mobile home, (while I'm building a house). The mobile home, (like a large caravan), is skinned with aluminium. Even if it were struck by lightening It would not "come Inside" because of the "Faraday cage" effect. Also in the UK we have a 240 volt AC mains system and three pin plugs: - Live, Neutral & Earth, the PC chassis is earthed from this pin which is connected into the ground anyway. The PC is also protected by a surge arrester, (power and phone), and the mains power into my property is on a 30ma earth leakage residual circuit breaker so I think it's well protected. I do play safe when there is an electrical storm near me by shutting down the PC and disconnecting it because I don't trust any surge arrester whatever it claims on the box...... I've see a lightening damage PC where it entered via the phone line... not pretty.
FerrariF50
08-09-01, 08:29 AM
That does not mean it can't come in the Window!!!!! long ago my aunt in NC was washing her hands when a Thunder Storm was going on she was in the bathroom and was washing her and and out of nowere the lighting came in pass the window and struck her hand.... My grandma was their to see it... I'm sure it was not a nice site to see...
Originally posted by BladeRunner
Thanks for the concern but I'm not sure you fully understand what lightening strikes do. Sorry if this is not technical but all they want is to ground out so try to find the path of least resistance to earth. this can involve any good conductor especially metal..... pylons, wet trees & wet people, even airplanes until they find it's not attached to the ground ;) As my cooling tank is already in the ground it is buried and as such earthed.
The PC is also fully protected. I'm currently living in a mobile home, (while I'm building a house). The mobile home, (like a large caravan), is skinned with aluminium. Even if it were struck by lightening It would not "come Inside" because of the "Faraday cage" effect. Also in the UK we have a 240 volt AC mains system and three pin plugs: - Live, Neutral & Earth, the PC chassis is earthed from this pin which is connected into the ground anyway. The PC is also protected by a surge arrester, (power and phone), and the mains power into my property is on a 30ma earth leakage residual circuit breaker so I think it's well protected. I do play safe when there is an electrical storm near me by shutting down the PC and disconnecting it because I don't trust any surge arrester whatever it claims on the box...... I've see a lightening damage PC where it entered via the phone line... not pretty.
BladeRunner
08-09-01, 08:47 AM
Possibily but an engine could also fall off of a 747 and land on my house.... it's called the risks of living. :)
My point is that the PC is already connected to the ground via a copper wire, (through the mains earth pin), so the cooling tank makes no differnce to the situation as to whether it will be struck by lightening. The coolant and tank would be a bigger resistance than the wire anyway. Atm the chances are it would find all the scaffolding around my house a much easier target and way to earth.
Enough about lightening already!!
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