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KefkaZ
08-09-01, 06:41 AM
Greetings!

First some background:

While the title of this thread uses the word newbie, be assured that it is a relative term. I've had my own system for many years, and am currently on the second generation of a computer a built myself. (Which is hellishly rewarding may I add.) I had no problems installing my first CPU a few years ago, which was a Celeron 466. It went in, it worked.

Here's my sad tale of woe:
After working about a month, I purchased a 1.2 ghz Thunderbird and an Abit Kt7a-133 mobo. The Thunderbird, with its "Chrome Orb" (which the lady on the phone assured me would work just fine) arrived in about 2 days. The Mobo took about 2 weeks. (which is another tale of woe.) Anywho, i was overjoyed to have my shiny new parts. I quickly went to the task of replacing my old parts with my new parts.

But then I hit a snag.

Three capacitors on the motherboard were too close to let my heatsink mount properly. Furthermore, it was designed to be installed one way.

First, I gently bent the capacitors back, and it still wouldn't fit. Then I put my whole weight on the heatsink to try and mount properly. Still wouldn't fit. Finally, i took the feet off of the processor, pressed with my weight, and it fit.

Well, two weeks later (sufficient time to let all of the warrenties expire) I realized that both motherboard and processor were damaged, enough to error beyond belief, but not enough to stop windows from running. (Is anyone surprised at this point.) Grand Total for the damaged parts, labor and replacement parts from a tech store: ~700$ US.

However, the tech ended up using my "fantastic" heatsink on the replacement motherboard and processor.

Thus, I am running a CPU temp of ~64 degrees C, with a mobo temp of about 16F above ambient. (I'm far too lazy at this point to convert my room temp to C)

The new system is relatively stable (I rarely get a BSD in 98SE.) I have no desire to overclock at this point either. (It seems like great fun, but i'm quite a bit spooked after this whole situation. Maybe in a few years.) Thus, I need to get a heatsink that will keep an athlon processor 1ghz. It MUST be super-ultra easy to install, and i'd like it to be reasonably quiet. Price isn't too much of a problem, but i'd like to pay under 40$. It needs to fit into an Asus A7V133 easily. Also, if anyone could point me at THE guide for installing this stuff, i'd be pretty happy.

Hopefully this thread will give the people who are just starting down this section of computing a wake-up and show them that you can never research enough.

expaddy
08-09-01, 07:04 AM
Hi there
I had the very same problem a while back and I did some research into the problem of fitting an hs. Ok first off there ain`t a lot of photos out there to help. But if you keep in mind that the products you are dealing with are made for joe public, they are pretty robust. having said that if you put in a search for the orb cooler and read you will then find that it needs a mod to fit on a lot of boards hence your busted stuff:(
I choose an sk7 with the smaller fan and I must say it too requires a lot of force to fit, but you just have to hold your breth and go for it. I used arctic silver 2 as the conductor.
In the end though I found that my system was still to hot so I ripped a hole in the bottom and fitted a 120mm intake fan and 2 80mm exhaust and since then I have had no problems.

btw most of the links etc that you need can be found right here under beginners guide

if at first you dont succeed you f****d up :p

Paul.K
08-09-01, 08:09 AM
Sorry about the bad news. However you should always search the forums for more information before you do something that can seriously damaged your equipement, if unsure!

A few things to note to all:

Never remove the finger pads from a processor. They are there to protect the processor from damage since the heatsink should only be touching the core and not the cermic part of the processor.

I too had an chromo ord ( Its the greatest piece of **** that you can buy).

I got around the problem by filing off a corner of the heatsink, the corner which was touching the capacitors and mounted the HSF normally. You should never apply your whole weight to a HSF since you might crack the core.......

Anyhow sorry about this post........

Good HSF is thermalright SK6

-=UR=- Ranger
08-12-01, 07:32 AM
I do still like the Alpha Pal 6035 HS, which can be installed quite easiely, I din't have to use tools at all...

!-=sky=-!
08-12-01, 08:56 AM
never remove those pads on the cpu ceramic...if u do u probably end up cracking the core.......i never knew about what the pads do so i removed it when i got my processor.....it worked but after taking it off 10 times i realized that the core was chipped but it still worked....after a while it just doesnt work

FRANK
08-12-01, 09:01 AM
First of all, Welcome to the forums.

I've had good results with the Global Win family of HSF's. My HSF of choice on my 1G @ 1.4 and my 1.2G @ 1.47 is the Global Win WBK38. Although this heat sink requires a bit of dexterity to install, I've never had any problems after many removals / installations.

However If you are intimidated by the spring clip that most of the current generation of socket A HSF's employ, look for one that uses the holes located adjacent to the CPU on your motherboard. I believe the current offerings from Swiftech utilize this method of attchemnt.

I hope this helps.

Good Luck!

PDL
08-12-01, 10:51 AM
You may want to check out this review:
http://www.dreddnews.com/reviews/hardware/cck_6035d/

I was considering this HSF but bought an SK6 instead.....dumb idea!!

Anyway, this HSF has gotten some good reviews and the cliping mechanism is unlike anything else out there.

You will notice some noise with the Delta fan!

KefkaZ
08-12-01, 11:21 AM
Thanks Guys! (and gals if applicable)

I was just scoping out the inside of my rig, and was examining the amount of room i have around the CPU, so I'm not as worried, and i think i may pick up a vantec, but my question is how loud is the delta...?

-KefkaZ

Wahoogie
08-12-01, 11:23 AM
Imagine a Hairdryer or a tornado, it all really depends on how close you are to the tornado...

It's a screamer, thats all I can say. If you want a good performing HSF thats pretty quiet, go with the Melinnium Glaciator. I have one and it performs great.

FRANK
08-13-01, 12:35 AM
Originally posted by KefkaZ
Thanks Guys! (and gals if applicable)

I was just scoping out the inside of my rig, and was examining the amount of room i have around the CPU, so I'm not as worried, and i think i may pick up a vantec, but my question is how loud is the delta...?

-KefkaZ

WHAT?
WOULD YOU REPEAT THAT?
I CAN'T HEAR YOU!

Damn fans!