PDA

View Full Version : Double Sided memory list??


GTX_SlotCar
04-19-04, 05:10 PM
Is there a current list somewhere thats says which memory is Double Sided and which is Single Sided?

Since I've got an 865 motherboard (abit ai7), I'd like to run DS memory. I thought that most Geil memory was DS (had good luck with it in the past) and was about to order some PC4400 Ultra Platinum (2x256). Then someone at Geil told me all their 256mb sticks were SS and all their 512mb sticks were DS.
Now I'm looking into OCZ PC 4200 (2x256).

Gary

tekOC
04-19-04, 05:33 PM
Could you explain to me the difference between single-sided memory and double-sided memory.

I myself have 2x256mb Single-Sided Hyperram Adata PC4200, I'm getting nasty numbers in Sandra - and incredible OCs.

Before I had 2x512mb Double-Sided Hyperam Adata PC4200 and I couldnt even boot past 265fsb with the same settings as my new 2x256 sticks, and my Sandra was incredibly low and my efficiency was like 50%.... seems like the single-sided sticks are better OCers, my efficiency with these new 2x256mb sticks (single-sided) is usually 75%

;)

SeanOMatic
04-19-04, 06:27 PM
GTX,

OCZ PC-4200 256MB are Single-Side, Single-Bank modules.

-Sean

craig588
04-19-04, 08:29 PM
I belive the general rule is that 512M sticks are DS and 256M sticks are single sided. I have only used one 128MB DDR stick and it has been double sided.

Why did I abbreviate once, but not the other times? makes no sense.

tekOC
04-19-04, 08:43 PM
Originally posted by craig588

Why did I abbreviate once, but not the other times? makes no sense.

:D stoner

GTX_SlotCar
04-19-04, 09:24 PM
Thanks, gents. Does that mean nobody makes DS (or SS two bank) DDR? My Abit AI7 (like all 865/875 chipsets) is supposed to run faster with DS memory.

Sean, are 256mb sticks of OCZ SS so you can use 4 sticks in a 4 bank motherboard? Aren't the chips in a single bank (SS) dimm double the density of those used in a DS dimm and therefore more expensive to make?

tekOC, some dimms are double sided (have memory chips on both sides of the pc board) which means they are 2-bank. Single sided dimms are usually single bank. Your motherboard will only accept so many banks of memory, despite the number of slots it has. So, for example, if your motherboard only accepts 4 banks and you have a 512mb DS dimm and 2 256mb SS dimms, you wouldn't be able to use the last slot (if you had one). At least that's how I understand it.
I just returned some Hyperam (Adata) PC 4200 (2x256) because it wouldn't run past 263 (x2) even though it's rated at DDR533. Komusa said they tested it and it ran fine for them, but offered me a refund without charging their usual 15% restocking fee. Nice of them. My P4 2.4C runs fine well past 270 mHz, so I don't know why the memory wouldn't work well for me.

I suppose junky DS dimms wouldn't run any faster than good SS dimms anyway, but I'd still like to find 256mb in DS.

Gary

GTX_SlotCar
04-19-04, 10:19 PM
An anandtech article says the 256mb PC3700 is DS. Are they correct? It's the memory they used in their DS vs SS tests (which showed a 12 to 13% increase in unbuffered memory bandwidth using DS memory).

Also, is the 256mb PC4000EL DS or SS?

Gary