Too hot for idle 1.333?

[ksc]

I've been running a 1.333 Athlon (I seem to recall a AXIA serial num, but it's under thermal goop now) WITHOUT overclocking. Since the temps began hitting the 90s the past few weeks, my system is unstable during the day and marginally stable at night. Avg. day temp (through BIOS) is approx 63C, case is approx 30-35 -crashes in approx 1/2 hr. At night, it cools down to 58C, prob 2 hrs between crashes. I tried just sitting in bios and watching the numbers (& I opened my case and stuck a big box fan next to it) - case temp was 25C and processor got up to 49C in 5 min. - seems too hot. I've never been in windows with a temp under 50, and usually the temp is much closer to 60.

This is on a Gigabyte 7DX board (266 bus), and I have a (shaved) SuperOrb on the processor. There is one intake in the front, and the power supply fan and one exhaust fan in the back.

This will be a dorm room computer shortly, so I kinda want it to run during a hot day - why rely on dorm air conditioning?

So, my questions are:
1) is this too hot? My cooling should be adequate for non-OC, but the hottest processor I've worked with before is a Athlon 500...
2) should I suspect the
- processor?
- heat sink?
- thermal goop?

Seems to me that I want my processor under 50C during normal use - is this a good goal? I can't put a box fan next to it all the time, and since I haven't OCed yet I don't want to go too crazy cooling (leave room for later).

Thanks for any thoughts!
Kevin

[Trinity]

I think you need to get rid of the orb. I don't think that is adequate for cooling that processor. How much thermal paste did you put on it?

[ksc]

SuperOrb claims to be rated up to 1.5GHz - or is that overly optimistic? As for the thermal paste, a local shop put that on (I had a bad MB mail-order but the local shop was able to sell me the Gigabyte). There should be enough, though I wonder if, since I've taken the HSF on and off a few times, it might be squished out of the useable area. So, it seems that my options are either try a new fan or clean off the old paste and put some new paste on?

[youthemandan]

Go to http://www1.amd.com/products/athlon/thermals and get a heatsink that is reccomended by amd. They are VERY optimistic and also when it gets hot take off the side of the case and blow on it with house fan. It is 100 in my room which is upstairs and i haven't gone over 50 C yet with the house fan and a wbk38/ Also i have a 1.4 amd on a fic ad11 mobo. Get some artic silver two and a a new Heatsink and fan. Try http://www.svcompucycle.com or any of the advertised sites on overclockers.com just get a amd reccomended heatsink and fan because it will save you a lot of trouble.

[Frost Byte]

My CPU runs under 40 with load....over 48 is to hot (IMO) and you will see funny thing happen...

[youthemandan]

Yea mines runnin 48 at the hottest part of the day.

[nil_esh]

My dad has GA-7DX. He is using a Coolmaster heatsink with a thin delta 60mm on it, which is what Micron installed. It runs 55C idle, 65 load. Pretty bad, but I heard the sensor is located under socket (or something) adding 10C to the actual die temp. So it is really 45/55? Dunno, but I am going add a 60mm-to-80mm adapter to it and a nice 80mm fan to get some more air going to it or at least add a better 60mm (don't want to bother changing to heatsink). Good luck.

[Tomas]

Originally posted by ksc
I've been running a 1.333 Athlon (I seem to recall a AXIA serial num, but it's under thermal goop now) WITHOUT overclocking. Since the temps began hitting the 90s the past few weeks, my system is unstable during the day and marginally stable at night. Avg. day temp (through BIOS) is approx 63C, case is approx 30-35 -crashes in approx 1/2 hr. At night, it cools down to 58C, prob 2 hrs between crashes. I tried just sitting in bios and watching the numbers (& I opened my case and stuck a big box fan next to it) - case temp was 25C and processor got up to 49C in 5 min. - seems too hot. I've never been in windows with a temp under 50, and usually the temp is much closer to 60.

This is on a Gigabyte 7DX board (266 bus), and I have a (shaved) SuperOrb on the processor. There is one intake in the front, and the power supply fan and one exhaust fan in the back.

This will be a dorm room computer shortly, so I kinda want it to run during a hot day - why rely on dorm air conditioning?

So, my questions are:
1) is this too hot? My cooling should be adequate for non-OC, but the hottest processor I've worked with before is a Athlon 500...
2) should I suspect the
- processor?
- heat sink?
- thermal goop?

Seems to me that I want my processor under 50C during normal use - is this a good goal? I can't put a box fan next to it all the time, and since I haven't OCed yet I don't want to go too crazy cooling (leave room for later).

Thanks for any thoughts!
Kevin

Those temps are way to high, are they over 60c you will hurt that poor cpu. The temps should NEVER be much over 50c at load that is. Go buy a new heatsink NOW or u will loose that cpu if you continue to use the pc.

[Tomas]

Originally posted by nil_esh
My dad has GA-7DX. He is using a Coolmaster heatsink with a thin delta 60mm on it, which is what Micron installed. It runs 55C idle, 65 load. Pretty bad, but I heard the sensor is located under socket (or something) adding 10C to the actual die temp. So it is really 45/55? Dunno, but I am going add a 60mm-to-80mm adapter to it and a nice 80mm fan to get some more air going to it or at least add a better 60mm (don't want to bother changing to heatsink). Good luck.

With those temps i really would bother to change heatsink "if your dad dont want too loose that cpu in the near future" Save you some money and buy a new heatsink. When you buy a expensive cpu like that i think its strange ppl are so greed on the cooling.... At the end you will save some bucks

[thefly]

Case temps are very high. get some fans in there and try to cool the case down. Also, get some decent thermal paste. It's not going to help a huge amount but it'll bring temps down about 3-4c.

But the real problem is your heatsink. The orb is well known as a mediocre performer.

Check in the cooling section of the forums for more details on good coolers. Swiftech being the very cream of the crop for air cooled systems.

[shakur]

I got the same cpu (1333@1480), and its temp idle is about 28/30 degree's
When loaded (playing Unreal Tournament <-- for those that dont know, its a pretty havy game ) it gets about 49/50 degree's
System temp is 26 degree's

The cpu is cooled by a CoolerMaster, system case has 2 intake
2 out take fan.

For those who find it hard to believe dl the file :)

[shakur]

Here's a pic of the cpu speed, detected by a AMD progie..
It says 1468 but mbm5 tells me 1485 and when i boot it says 1480 so .. lol :D

This program seems to be verry intensive sinds when i start it up cpu temp go's to 48 in a few seconds..

[Qualtran]

I think the Gigabyte 7DX and 7DXR run the CPU really hot. I've heard lots of posts from people who say their CPU temps are really hot using Gigabyte mobos. Mine has been idling at 52C and full loading up to 68C, but I have NEVER had any issue with crashing! I have excellent case cooling, as my internal temps are usually only 2-3C above ambient. And I also have a decent HSF - Global Win WBK38 using thin layer of AS II. So, maybe the back sesor is messed up? or maybe Gigabyte runs well hot?

[nil_esh]

Originally posted by Qualtran
I think the Gigabyte 7DX and 7DXR run the CPU really hot. I've heard lots of posts from people who say their CPU temps are really hot using Gigabyte mobos.

Hmm.. Sounds like more proof that the GA-7DX's on-board probes are inaccurate. I need to get myself a nice thermal probe.

[stompah]

Originally posted by ksc
SuperOrb claims to be rated up to 1.5GHz - or is that overly optimistic? As for the thermal paste, a local shop put that on (I had a bad MB mail-order but the local shop was able to sell me the Gigabyte). There should be enough, though I wonder if, since I've taken the HSF on and off a few times, it might be squished out of the useable area. So, it seems that my options are either try a new fan or clean off the old paste and put some new paste on?

Ok first thing youshould do is run down to Radio Shack and pick up some 'Heat Sink Compound'. Remove all of the old paste and apply the new paste. Make sure to use enough that you cover 100% of the CPU die but not enough that it runs all over your CPU.

My method is to put a decent size dollop of grease in the center of the die and place the HS over the CPU and gently squish the greash. Then remove the HS and wipe. Do this till you have a somewhat thin layer of grease taht covers the entire die.

If you have got the grease anywhere other than on the die of your CPU you must clean the entire CPU and start over.I beleive taht this may be your problem since you stat that youhave R&R your HS many times.

Goodluck

[shakur]

plz ignore this post, my reply that is

[oc jason]

i beg u get rid of te ORB NOW, they are terriblex100. Get a cheap quiet Glaciator and lapp it good, use a THIN layer of AS2 an get a 30c temp drop. Yes 30c drop. My 1.33gig at idle (not overclocked) is nder 40 c usually 38c all day and night idle, right now at 1.53gig it is at 41c idle.

So sinve you got same chip, and i have NO intake air. i dont see why you cant get the sme temps as me
from 60+c to 30+c is a dramatic drop, then u can take it up higher , mhz wise. Ill be happy to expalin lapping if you need and all , that chip is a MONSTER for overclockin, and i hat eto see it go to waste in a HOT BOX, or the CPU GRAVE