help im new and confused

[mgreaper2004]

i have an amd 2600 in my pc and a water cooling system (this one www.qtec.info/13793 which is a ks70 cpu water cooler bay) it said on the box "perfect for over clock use due to extreme cooling capacity" but i deren`t over clock as my amd is according to speed fan running at 55 degrees celsus 66c max 53c mean 48.5 min are these ok for my cpu? i mean the bios is instructed to shut the system down at 70c and if this is ok what would u guys recommend over clockig to ? my ram is 1:1 speed with my fsb and i`d love to get both up to 400 (there at 333 at mo) but im EXTREMMLY new to all this plz help (ps i didnt know weather this should be in cooling, water, amd, or general it seems to fit all im sorry if i have posted in the wrong section)

[found404]

My first post for a while so i'm willing to help you out.

From the look of the kit the temps look about right it maybe worth reseating the block to see if you gain anything though.
IMO your temps are too high to try overclocking and the kit definately is not perfect for overclock use far from it infact. Your CPU will live at that temperature but i wouldn't exactly call it healthy.
High end cooling will yield much better results.

Hope this helps

Later

[diehrd]

You have a very basic water cooling set up.Very basic.The temps you are at now are at the high end of stability and If yoy overclock you may see that magic 70c shutdown temp.

I guess trying to reseat the block is ok but I would not expect any real temp difference.....

[ares350]

nice little package there, but as water cooling goes, I bet a 30$ fan and heatsink using air could do better.

the guys that get great over clocking on air are using 3/8th and 1/2" ID piping, with 3-600gph pumps. you can see the difference in sheer volume their pumping. and their pumping it through incredably engineered water blocks that are designed to transfer tons of heat into the water.

Im afraid to say, your system is not a particularly effective water cooling setup, its more of a ploy.

be like buying a kit car lamborgini and wondering why it isnt as fast as the real thing.

[rogerdugans]

I also hate to say it, but that unit does not look to be effective at all.

I do see one possible "quick fix" to improve things a bit though:

If that is installed in a 5 1/4 bay with other devices above and below it you are cutting off all the airflow. (Definitely having a device above it is bad; the pics don't show the bottom, but if it is NOT a solid piece you may get better air flow if the bottom side is clear as well.)

If you already have the areas above and below clear....well, out of luck then. :(

Either way you will probably want to get a decent setup before long- I would expect that a top-notch air cooling setup would be able to outperfom that with low noise levels fairly easily.

And with your reported temps I think overclocking would be a very bad idea- in fact, I am surprised the system is running at all with those temps!

Sorry we have to be the bearer's of bad tidings, but there's your answer.

[mgreaper2004]

thnx chaps for the fast and multiple replys and no need to say sorry for the bad news i would rather honesty then blowing my cpu :) i did reseat (although if you mean turning it wound there is a percific direction it has to face although no instructions as to which pipe goes in which part hmmm go figure) the power block as when i first got it i followed there instructions to put the thermal paste on the underside of the heat block and had temps of 60 average and 67 max so i read the method advised by thermal blue (the paste i used came with it could this be part of the problem?) and cleaned the block (it was all over the cpu derent clean it off that) followed thermal blues method of putting it on real thin on the cpu and as u can see got the lower temps at the start of this topic.the botom of the unit is mostly solid plastic and rests on my harddrive cooler (a big metal heatsync that stays cold a cooldrive 3 it says on the front) above it is a clear air way of one slot up then the top of the case. i think pc world salesman saw me comeing, oh well my case temp is down about 10 degrees and the noise level is down a bit (i have loud case fans that spoil it a bit :(

[ares350]

you could try artic silver 5 or ceramique paste, people report pretty good improvements by just useing these things. it cant hurt.

orientation shouldnt matter. the path of the water should cover the whole block more or less so its all cooled.

[ukdan]

Originally posted by mgreaper2004
i think pc world salesman saw me comeing, oh well my case temp is down about 10 degrees and the noise level is down a bit (i have loud case fans that spoil it a bit :(

I saw that kit in pc world, picked up the box and started reading then a salesman came over and told me not to bother. He said they are a very poor performing kit even at stock speeds. (I had to laugh thinking to myself "does this bloke want to sell his stock or what? lol), he then told me he tried it when they first came out and his temps increased from air cooling! Well thanks to his honesty and these forums, helped me from making a big mistake.

[mgreaper2004]

comes a bit late for me i was told it was a the best thing for overclocking i shant be shoping at pc world no more. glad u found an honest salesman though i think they are a dieing breed

[ukdan]

Just for future reference heres a couple of links to uk sites to buy bits from in case you haven't come across them

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/index.html

http://www.overclock.co.uk/customer/home.php

I have found them a lot cheaper than high street stores