View Full Version : 3.2c sweet spot...
well fellas, i finally found the sweet spot on this 3.2c i purchsed about a month ago. i put it under stock cooling, and it did 4Ghz, so that was a good impression on me atleast. :) it wasnt stable at those speeds, but heck it booted windows at 1.65v on AIR!
so anyways, i have done countless hours of testing, blah blah blah, and this is what i have found to be the highest and most stable speed of my CPU under my Vapochill. im still working on my 9800XT, and trying to find its sweet spot. :)
the saga continues....
nice! :clap:
hehe i still have your 2.4 M0 core....this summer ill finally be getting to the volt mod on my board. highest stable OC i could get with my sp-94 is 295FSB (using the 3:2 divider)....hopefully i can do that with 5:4 after the volt mod. ive got big plans for my system, but im broke so im outa luck. wish i had the money to get something new every months :p . good luck with your XT! wish i had one, or better yet a X800 XT (when they come out).....i might have to move to amd when its time to redo my system, unless Intel has something better than AMD's socket 939 CPUs by the time im ready to upgrade.
rhino56
05-02-04, 01:09 AM
i got a great chip also. my ram will run 264 stable so im at 263 lol
1:1
awesome chips the 3.2's
http://home.comcast.net/~illyaplav/overclock6.JPG
trying running 3-4-4-8 rhino and you may be able to go a bit higher with you mem.
Surfeit00
05-02-04, 07:31 AM
my chip does about the same
hmm, seems like this is the norm with the 3.2's. i was thinking that this was a gem type chip. :) heck 4Ghz on air was pretty impressive to say the least.
gustav, that CPU you have does 300fsb with no problems at 1.625v. there is something up with your board, and i know exactly what it is. you need the droop mod done to the Asus. my freind has one and he would not get 250fsb stable on a 3.0Ghz. after the mod, 250 was 100% completely stable.
my advice to you is get the droop mod done, cause to see you running that chip at anything other than 300fsb makes me sick. ;)
heck, i would be willing to buy it back from you if you dont want it. :)
Originally posted by daos
hmm, seems like this is the norm with the 3.2's. i was thinking that this was a gem type chip. :) heck 4Ghz on air was pretty impressive to say the least.
gustav, that CPU you have does 300fsb with no problems at 1.625v. there is something up with your board, and i know exactly what it is. you need the droop mod done to the Asus. my freind has one and he would not get 250fsb stable on a 3.0Ghz. after the mod, 250 was 100% completely stable.
my advice to you is get the droop mod done, cause to see you running that chip at anything other than 300fsb makes me sick. ;)
heck, i would be willing to buy it back from you if you dont want it. :)
i dunno...i thought it was my cooling cut my temps arent much different than when running it at...i guess it is the "droop" thing.....though i set it in the bios to 1.7 and under load it said it was getting 1.65 but it still wouldnt run stable. do you have a link to a guide on how to do the droop mod? i might do it along with the volt mod over the summer...
i might consider you buying it back, but not right now....i want to get a nice 3.0 "WU" that will do 4ghz on air...hell one that would do 250fsb might even be nice....but im broke and im not decided yet.
oh yeah, im runnin her at 270 right now with stock vcore, 5:4 with my mem (wont do any higher). completely stable. like i say ive done up to 295 stable with the 3:2 divider (hell, i did this to get my highest 3dmark scores).
rhino56
05-02-04, 02:00 PM
Originally posted by gustav
i dunno...i thought it was my cooling cut my temps arent much different than when running it at...i guess it is the "droop" thing.....though i set it in the bios to 1.7 and under load it said it was getting 1.65 but it still wouldnt run stable. do you have a link to a guide on how to do the droop mod? i might do it along with the volt mod over the summer...
i might consider you buying it back, but not right now....i want to get a nice 3.0 "WU" that will do 4ghz on air...hell one that would do 250fsb might even be nice....but im broke and im not decided yet.
oh yeah, im runnin her at 270 right now with stock vcore, 5:4 with my mem (wont do any higher). completely stable. like i say ive done up to 295 stable with the 3:2 divider (hell, i did this to get my highest 3dmark scores).
i want to do the droop mod also and the vmod, any pics and how tos would be awesome
http://www.malvescorner.com/p4c800.htm
aww man too bad the droop mod actually involves soldering....i dont wana solder my board :-(
why not? its very very simple. my IC7 is completly modded by Malves. he does all the work. just contact him. he is infamous for doing volt mods for people. probably does 2-3 boards a day. :)
jgtdragon
05-03-04, 02:58 PM
My 3.2c doesn't even make it to windows with 3.36 @ 210 fsb.
rhino56
05-03-04, 03:13 PM
Originally posted by jgtdragon
My 3.2c doesn't even make it to windows with 3.36 @ 210 fsb.
something is terribly wrong with that.
i got my 3.2 up 4.3++ the other day. i wont have much time here for the next few weeks but ill try and see what i can get it up to again, i was short on testing time.
i have a spare system thats a p4c800e-D MB im going to send out to malves to get fully modded when i get the money.
thanks for the link daos
jgtdragon
05-03-04, 03:27 PM
Maybe I just don't know how to configure the P4c800-Dexule board. Everything is set auto and I set my fsb to 210 and it won't make it to windows.
I don't like how Asus put auto, and don't tell you the vaule. If I don't use cpuz I don't know either know what voltage the baord is set to.
rhino56
05-03-04, 03:55 PM
Originally posted by jgtdragon
Maybe I just don't know how to configure the P4c800-Dexule board. Everything is set auto and I set my fsb to 210 and it won't make it to windows.
I don't like how Asus put auto, and don't tell you the vaule. If I don't use cpuz I don't know either know what voltage the baord is set to.
go into bios
go to advanced
jumper free-
set to manual, set everything at manual.
lock agp at 33.66
raise fsb 5 at a time with the + and - keys on the number pad on your key board
keep the voltages as low as possible to start
so start like this
cpu external frequency------210
cpu ratio----------------------locked anyways you cant mess with it
dram fequency----------------400
agp/pci frequency -----------66.33
cpu vcore voltage -----------1. XXX whatever is the lowest
ddr reference voltage-------2.75
agp vddq voltage -----------1.5
on the ddr reference voltage check with the manufacter of your ram as far as what it should be at. new usually lists it.
but your probably fine with the lowest or slightly above to start
ok you got into windows at 220 fsb? its pretty stable? good.
now go back to the bios, and do this
cpu external frequency------215
cpu ratio----------------------locked anyways you cant mess with it
dram frequency---------------400
agp/pci frequency -----------66.33
cpu vcore voltage -----------1. XXX whatever is the lowest
ddr reference voltage-------2.75
agp vddq voltage -----------1.5
so you go xx5 at a time on the fsb, now you get to a point where it doesnt seem stable, try raising the ddr reference voltage a bit
still no help? raise the vcore 1 notch
dont go over 1.7 on your vcore
when your fsb gets up around where it should be for the ram your using and it seems like you cant get it stable no matter what try lowering the
dram frequency---------------400
to the lowest setting and is its stable then that tells you its the ram thats holding you back.
other random things to set in the bios.
spread spectrum- set it to disabled
try this for now. there is a lot more involved but this should get you on the right path.
im sure others will also add what else to try.
jgtdragon
05-03-04, 04:12 PM
Originally posted by rhino56
go into bios
go to advanced
jumper free-
set to manual, set everything at manual.
lock agp at 33.66
raise fsb 5 at a time with the + and - keys on the number pad on your key board
keep the voltages as low as possible to start
so start like this
cpu external frequency------210
cpu ratio----------------------locked anyways you cant mess with it
dram fequency----------------400
agp/pci frequency -----------66.33
cpu vcore voltage -----------1. XXX whatever is the lowest
ddr reference voltage-------2.75
agp vddq voltage -----------1.5
on the ddr reference voltage check with the manufacter of your ram as far as what it should be at. new usually lists it.
but your probably fine with the lowest or slightly above to start
ok you got into windows at 220 fsb? its pretty stable? good.
now go back to the bios, and do this
cpu external frequency------215
cpu ratio----------------------locked anyways you cant mess with it
dram frequency---------------400
agp/pci frequency -----------66.33
cpu vcore voltage -----------1. XXX whatever is the lowest
ddr reference voltage-------2.75
agp vddq voltage -----------1.5
so you go xx5 at a time on the fsb, now you get to a point where it doesnt seem stable, try raising the ddr reference voltage a bit
still no help? raise the vcore 1 notch
dont go over 1.7 on your vcore
when your fsb gets up around where it should be for the ram your using and it seems like you cant get it stable no matter what try lowering the
dram frequency---------------400
to the lowest setting and is its stable then that tells you its the ram thats holding you back.
other random things to set in the bios.
spread spectrum- set it to disabled
try this for now. there is a lot more involved but this should get you on the right path.
im sure others will also add what else to try.
WOW. Awesome. Thanks. I will try it out.
something else Rhino is not mentioning is that he and i are using Vapor Phase change cooling. :) that makes a huge difference in overclockability. although, you should be able to overclock your CPU more than 3.3Ghz, even on stock cooling.
rhino56
05-03-04, 05:11 PM
yes just keep an eye on load temps, when they get to 50 thats too hot, not emergeny hot but everyday tolerence hot.
when i had my stock HS on i was hitting 3.9 with loads at 50
aNTiChRisT
05-03-04, 06:22 PM
Be careful, however. Mobo diode calculations of CPU temps are notorious... there is 18-20c difference between Abit and Asus...
~t0m
touch the heatsink after its been under load for a while (and still under load)....if you dont notice a difference in temp, like i do, thats superb...if its warmer than your fingers, great. if its hot but you can keep your finger on it, i wouldnt overclock it anymore, but it should be ok for every day use. if its too hot to keep your fingers on, reduce your clock and/or voltage.
Originally posted by daos
why not? its very very simple. my IC7 is completly modded by Malves. he does all the work. just contact him. he is infamous for doing volt mods for people. probably does 2-3 boards a day. :)
daos, where can i contact Malves? Extreme? here? how much would it cost to mod out the board (roughly) and how long would i be out a board? maybe i should ask him these questions lol.
oc-rookie
05-03-04, 09:45 PM
Nice job Daos!!!
ty oc...
gustav,
contact Malves over at extremeoverclocking forums. he is in the Vmods section. he would probably charge you 30 bucks for the mods, and it might be gone for 2 days. all depends on how you ship though.
rhino56
05-03-04, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by daos
well fellas, i finally found the sweet spot on this 3.2c i purchsed about a month ago. i put it under stock cooling, and it did 4Ghz, so that was a good impression on me atleast. :) it wasnt stable at those speeds, but heck it booted windows at 1.65v on AIR!
so anyways, i have done countless hours of testing, blah blah blah, and this is what i have found to be the highest and most stable speed of my CPU under my Vapochill. im still working on my 9800XT, and trying to find its sweet spot. :)
the saga continues....
that is an awesome OC to be stable at. congrats on it.
how high can the mushkin 3500 run up to at 1:1?
guys say good buy to the ole trusty Vapochill, for he is being sold to another owner. :(
do not fret, for the Vapochill LS shall come to thy rescue! :)
rhino56
05-03-04, 11:01 PM
Originally posted by daos
guys say good buy to the ole trusty Vapochill, for he is being sold to another owner. :(
do not fret, for the Vapochill LS will be to the rescue! :)
wow that was fast lol
yeah well, three months. new technology, colder temps, etc... just cannot resist. :)
the Mushkin is good for up to 257 1:1 2-2-2-6 3.3v. i dont want to give anymore voltage to it. i would rather run 255fsb with 2-2-2-6 and StreetRacer enabled. i can really max the timings out along with GAT when running only 255. looks like this: StreetRacer, Enahanced, 5, D, D. i cannot get tRDA, and CPC to run stable at those speeds. matter fact, i cannot get tRDA, and CPC to run at anything over 230fsb.
Originally posted by daos
ty oc...
gustav,
contact Malves over at extremeoverclocking forums. he is in the Vmods section. he would probably charge you 30 bucks for the mods, and it might be gone for 2 days. all depends on how you ship though.
yeah, i looked at his site. $30 for first mod, $10 for each mod after that. so for Vdimm, Droop, and Vagp its gona be $50, plus shipping....2nd day fedex is like $13....so im looking at about $80 to get it modded and shipped both ways.
jgtdragon
05-22-04, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by jgtdragon
WOW. Awesome. Thanks. I will try it out.
I am running my Corsair Twinx @225fsb with 1:1 ratio w/ 2-3-2-6 now but I have to rasie the Vdimm to 2.85v.
Is it save with this voltage?
rhino56
05-22-04, 09:42 PM
Originally posted by jgtdragon
I am running my Corsair Twinx @225fsb with 1:1 ratio w/ 2-3-2-6 now but I have to rasie the Vdimm to 2.85v.
Is it save with this voltage?
i been running my corsair 4000 at 2.85 for some time no problems at all, i think its safe to actually run it over 3.0 even
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