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Über~PhLuBB
08-13-01, 12:39 AM
www.pricewatch.com has a GeForce2 Ultra 64MB DDR listed for $105! I checked the site selling the card for that cheap, and it is indeed $105!

What the hell!? This can't be a typo. Can someone please verify what I'm seeing? If this is true, I'm going to order 30 of them, then resell them at $150!

Placid
08-13-01, 12:44 AM
http://www.nvnews.net/


Its been on that site all day I would doubt they have any left.

Monaco
08-13-01, 12:46 AM
I'm setting my stopwatch now- let's see how long it takes the store to fix it. It's GOT to be an error; the RAM on the board alone costs that much.

Please let us know if they actually follow thru on it!!! I'd love to score this.

Staz
08-13-01, 12:50 AM
I was goona call them first thing in the morning. Just to make sure. But maybe I shold order now if Pluber is gonna order 30 of them and they only have 25.

Über~PhLuBB
08-13-01, 01:06 AM
I ordered 10 of them. (I'm so damn happy!!!) If they don't honor the price, I'll take 'em to court. Mis advertisment is very very bad. =(

It doesnt say anything on their site about typos. All it says is stuff about misprinting product specifications.

If this is indeed a typo, We'll have words. If it's not a typo, but they run out of stock, I'll just have to sit tight and wait for them to get more to honor my order, else, we'll we seeing each other on court.

Bobby Manus
08-13-01, 02:00 AM
Dont know if you noticed this or not, but it says DVI/TV. What does this mean, I have a visiontek ultra btw and it cost me 150$ and it was used!! That was also a few months ago though when they cost a lot more :D My friend is going to buy one tomarow btw... I am gunna call em just to make sure its not gunna be like crap.

el
08-13-01, 10:37 AM
deal is dead and I heard like 10,000+ people ordered it and only 25 instock. time to update teh database in real time.

Mord-Sith
08-13-01, 10:50 AM
LoL they just changed the price but I got my order in Just in time. Its still the wrong price on the webpage though.

Breadfan
08-13-01, 10:55 AM
I saw that this mornging as well, but they already had 0 listed as in stock. I figured they went fast, and after seeing this it looks ilke I shouldn't even bother callin' em to see if they'll have more instock at that price soon :)

25 people got VERY lucky...thats one awesome card, especialyl for 104 bucks! HA!

Mike

Mord-Sith
08-13-01, 11:56 AM
I called them after I ordered and they said my order was placed after they went out of stock so it will be cancelled and when they get more in they may or may not be at that price.

Mord-Sith
08-13-01, 04:02 PM
As soon as anyone get some info on this please post it.

FerrariF50
08-13-01, 05:26 PM
yeah but who puts out the video card?? lol is it a no name?

Placid
08-13-01, 05:36 PM
Originally posted by FerrariF50
yeah but who puts out the video card?? lol is it a no name?
Visiontek.
http://www.cdrexpress.com/D/FMPro?-DB=Items.FP5&-lay=Item_Detail_Page&-format=search_results.htm&-error=search_error.htm&F4%20Product%20Code=8976&-Find

Mord-Sith
08-13-01, 05:46 PM
Ya its a premium video card. They totaly mismarked it or got some kind of deal. They might have bought out a company that whent out of buisiness or somthing.

Staz
08-13-01, 06:03 PM
I placed my order at 1:00 AM central time. I just checked through thier order tracking, and it says my order was voided.

FerrariF50
08-13-01, 06:07 PM
hmmmm......

Mord-Sith
08-13-01, 06:48 PM
Is it me or did they just add this

Please note: Every attempt is made to ensure that our website is accurate. CDR Express will not be responsible for, and will not honor, pricing errors and typographical errors on this website or any other system that we advertise with

to the bottom of the policies section.

Superman53142
08-13-01, 06:57 PM
Originally posted by Mord-Sith
Is it me or did they just add this

Please note: Every attempt is made to ensure that our website is accurate. CDR Express will not be responsible for, and will not honor, pricing errors and typographical errors on this website or any other system that we advertise with

to the bottom of the policies section.

Those weasels. Changing their policies. I hope somebody has a copy before they changed it. Then someone could start a class action lawsuit and demand that all 10,000 requests be honored.

Mord-Sith
08-13-01, 06:59 PM
LoL how did you get the 10000 number? If thats how many they got I actualy feel sorry for them

Bobby Manus
08-13-01, 07:06 PM
I doubt its 10000 but to be honest I would not be suprised if it was in the 200-500 range. Serusly its half the price and its just such an awsome card, and EVERYONE noticed. I mean I have friends that just periodicly check pricewatch, and they all messaged me, "geforce 2 ultra for 100$!!". And then theres guys that order them in bulk planing on reselling them for a little profit, I wouldnt be suprised if he ebayd him that he gets 2 to 3 times what he bought them for lol!!

Über~PhLuBB
08-13-01, 07:12 PM
I got 2 things to say about this. Firstly, I saved the HTML document when I ordered, because I figured they'd try to weasel out. Obviously an HTML document can be doctorred by an end user, but I got it nonetheless. And it did NOT say anything about typos, other than about misrepresenting manufacturer's stats (I.E., 67MB DDR, GeForce5 Ultra, etc)

Second, it was NOT a typo. I know this, because the price is listed on 2 different pages. The page listing all the video cards, and the "details" page. That's 2 seperate HTML documents. The chances of someone doing the same typo 2 times in a row are VERY VERY unlikely. Even concidering that the "9" is right next to the "0" and that the price was meant to read "$194.74" instead of "$104.74".

If you guys have ordered the product, I would be more than happy to contribute my order to a list of unhonored orders for a nice little legal dispute. =)



(Edit:) I just checked my order. It says my invoice total is $0. I'm guessing that means they voided my order.

BTW, I mistyped above, in my last post. I ordered 1 (one) of them. I popped the "0" as my pinky rolled off the "1" on the numberpad. My mom wouldn't let me order the 30 I wanted, even though I explained she would get a 200% return. =(

Bobby Manus
08-13-01, 07:15 PM
PluBB if you really get those ultras you are going to become a very rich man :D I mean I honestly think you could score like 1000$ more then what you paid for on ebay. Have you guys seen what gf2 ultras go for on ebayrecently?!?! Not everyoneknoes about pricewatch my friends!!

Mord-Sith
08-13-01, 07:32 PM
phlubb please email me the old html code I have my order and thier police section but the police save I have which was a save copy of this link


http://www.cdrexpress.com/cgi-bin/webcart/webcart.cgi?CONFIG=mountain&CHANGE=YES&NEXTPAGE=policies.htm&CODE=277

has at the very bottom the same information I posted earlier so I dont know If I missed it or was just too late in saving. There is also a disclamer for mass buying.

I called them earlier today as I mentioned and the operator said I would get an email saying that my order was canceled even though I explressly said in my order NOT to cancel it and that I excpected to pay only 104.95 + S&H

Über~PhLuBB
08-13-01, 07:44 PM
Send me a request at res079hl@verizon.net. I'll send you a zip with 2 HTML pages in it: The page showing all the video cards, and the details page.

el
08-13-01, 08:03 PM
well some dumbasses posted this on anandtech and they get like 10,000 visitors to the forum an hour and of course most of them are egayers and they order 100 even if it only said 25 instock. the thread had over 200 posts and everyone was ordering three or so. factor in that only about 2% actually post adn you have 3x200x50 or 30,000 at least and the original post in anandtech had the disclaimer about mismarked items.

yog
08-13-01, 08:29 PM
I oedered one and I just look at the status of my order and it says that my invoice total is 0. And for tracking it says cancel. Anybody get this to work?

Mord-Sith
08-13-01, 08:53 PM
some idiot ordered 100 over at anandtech. I hate stupid people.

Genesis519
08-13-01, 09:56 PM
I've ordered one of the cards, and now my order shows VD (void). :(

I have e-mailed the company with a somewhat nasty letter requesting them to honor the price, and if the product is not available replace it with a similar one. Of course, under the threat of a lawer.

So we'll see what happens next. I REALLY want my cheap ultra!

Has anyone else done something similar?

Über~PhLuBB
08-13-01, 10:17 PM
Originally posted by Genesis519
I've ordered one of the cards, and now my order shows VD (void). :(

I have e-mailed the company with a somewhat nasty letter requesting them to honor the price, and if the product is not available replace it with a similar one. Of course, under the threat of a lawer.

So we'll see what happens next. I REALLY want my cheap ultra!

Has anyone else done something similar?

Yes. I just sent a bitter letter myself. It reads as follows:

I ordered a Visiontek GeForce2 Ultra 64MB DDR for $104.74. At the time, the quantity was 25. Now, of course, the quantity is zero, and my order has been voided. I will not hesitate to take legal action of my GeForce2 Ultra 64MB DDR is not shipped when they are restocked. I've got alot of people on my side, there are many discussions going on about this particular item, and not being able to meet demand, and I feel a class action lawsuit will be directed towards you if you do not honor all our orders (Before the quantity was updated to "0").

You guys ARE behind me on this, right? We can combine forces with the posters at Anandtech, and file a class action suit, most likely putting CDR Express out of buisiness, and getting us all GF2Ultras for H*LLA cheap.

Mord-Sith
08-14-01, 12:33 AM
If you follow this link

http://www.cdrexpress.com/cgi-bin/webcart/webcart.cgi?CONFIG=mountain&CHANGE=YES&NEXTPAGE=policies.htm&CODE=312


you will see that they have themselves pretty much covered. If we can prove that this section was changed after we ordered then we have a case.

edit its all the way at the bottom. They have also removed the card from their webpage. I believe they are going to drop the card in order to get out of shipping the cards. At the least we need to send pricewatch about 1000 emails and get them removed /edit

Über~PhLuBB
08-14-01, 12:40 AM
Originally posted by Mord-Sith
If you follow this link

http://www.cdrexpress.com/cgi-bin/webcart/webcart.cgi?CONFIG=mountain&CHANGE=YES&NEXTPAGE=policies.htm&CODE=312


you will see that they have themselves pretty much covered. If we can prove that this section was changed after we ordered then we have a case.

edit its all the way at the bottom. They have also removed the card from their webpage. I believe they are going to drop the card in order to get out of shipping the cards /edit

Unfortunately, I didn't save THAT particular HTML document. Only the details and card listing pages.

Reguardless of whether or not they have that little "protection" clause, it was not a pricing error. As I said before, the price of $104.74 was typed TWO different times on TWO different HTML documents. I think that's proof enough that there was no pricing mistake or typographical error.

As far as I'm concered, if all of us who ordered before the quantity was set to 0 do not get our merchandise, we have a case. We need to keep this thread current (and near the top of the forum's list) so more people can learn from it, and benefit by it (for those who ordered).

Über~PhLuBB
08-14-01, 12:58 AM
I just checked pricewatch, they already took the card off. Lowest GF2Ultra is $185.

FerrariF50
08-14-01, 01:05 AM
so are you guys going to get the cards?

Monaco
08-14-01, 01:10 AM
I'm sorry, but where is the law that says they have to honor a mistake? Some guy hands the web programmer an mistaken price update, and he puts it up. Chances are the person maintaining the DB has NO IDEA what a Geforce is, let alone how much it costs.

I've seen a P3 850 GHZ for sale at newegg. No matter how much I bitched, they could not send me one obviously, it was a typo. False advertising implies an intent to defraud the customer. If you did not buy anything after all, how are you harmed?

It still sucks tho. I wanted one too. Hopefully they will do a little proof reading from now on.

Über~PhLuBB
08-14-01, 01:34 AM
Originally posted by Monster of Rock
I'm sorry, but where is the law that says they have to honor a mistake? Some guy hands the web programmer an mistaken price update, and he puts it up. Chances are the person maintaining the DB has NO IDEA what a Geforce is, let alone how much it costs.

I've seen a P3 850 GHZ for sale at newegg. No matter how much I bitched, they could not send me one obviously, it was a typo. False advertising implies an intent to defraud the customer. If you did not buy anything after all, how are you harmed?

It still sucks tho. I wanted one too. Hopefully they will do a little proof reading from now on.

It's false advertising. The web is a nationwide ad. False advertising is illegal, as far as I know.

Bobby Manus
08-14-01, 04:21 AM
yea in a way cdr express really gave themself a name now... i would have never looked twice at there name before the sold ultras for 100$ lol.

Mord-Sith
08-14-01, 08:34 AM
It depends on what country your in but in the U.S. you have to sell things at the price they are marked unless you have a little disclaimer which they do. But I agree with phlubb its no longer a question of a miscarried price the web page has it twice and pricewatch had it. It’s now an issue of whether or not they are going to honor their intentional price. How do we know they didn’t just place that price so they could get web hits? If we can even prove just that it would be considered fraud.

Myself and I
08-14-01, 10:50 AM
i cant believe the people on here what they would do for a video card. Come on its not even a geforce 3 card lol . just pay the 80 bucks more and buy one will ya. Whats 80 bucks if you can dish out tons a money for a lawyer. Before you know it people will be sueing overclockes.com because the board operator posted some miss information about overclocking!
LOLLOL

Myself ANd I

AKA ME

Monaco
08-14-01, 03:02 PM
Well, I see you guys' point. But, I still don't think they should be held liable for their mistake- if it was a mistake!! If they did this on purpose than I pray their servers get hit with lightning.

Mord-sith- it is super easy for 1 mistake in a database to multiply and affect other things. I've done it. Enter a datum for the "GF3" item, and any later reference to the "GF3" item will call that datum. If the datum is wrong the whole thing is screwed. So the same dumb mistake in 3 places, that I can understand.

Even if I think they are retards for doing something this dumb. Not a good way to do business!!

What is this law everyone is talking about? like mord-sith said

in the U.S. you have to sell things at the price they are marked unless you have a little disclaimer which they do

I've never even heard of that. I'm not trying to be a jerk here(for once), nor spit flames. If anybody can point me to a reference for this law, I would be grateful.
I work retail, and I misprice stuff all the time, so this would really change the way we do business. Maybe it is a state law?

Über~PhLuBB
08-14-01, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by Myself and I
i cant believe the people on here what they would do for a video card. Come on its not even a geforce 3 card lol . just pay the 80 bucks more and buy one will ya. Whats 80 bucks if you can dish out tons a money for a lawyer. Before you know it people will be sueing overclockes.com because the board operator posted some miss information about overclocking!
LOLLOL

Myself ANd I

AKA ME

No, it's not a GeForce3, it's better than a GeForce3. Everyone knows that GF2Ultras get better framerates than GF3's. I'm not spending anymore money on a vidcard until the GF3 Ultra comes out. Or until the first available 128MB DDR game card comes out. Ooh... 128MB...

And BTW, a lawer's cost spread accross 10,000 people is like... $0.000001. Heh. Even I can play for THAT.

Mord-Sith
08-14-01, 04:09 PM
I work retail as well and we always sell things at the priced marked no matter what are loss is.

Über~PhLuBB
08-14-01, 04:17 PM
I recieved the following letter from CDR Express:

Hello,

We did run out of stock of the item before getting to your order. We apologize but we had to cancel your order at this time since we do not know when we would be receiving the item back in stock. If we get the item back in stock we will contact you to see if you are still interested in the item. At this time your order is considered cancelled.

Thank you,
CDR Express

To this, I sent them back the following:

I know for a fact that it could not possibly take you more than 3 weeks to get those cards back in. If I (and the others who were cheated) am not contacted about a resale for the same exact card (Visiontek GeForce2 Ultra 64MB DDR) at the same exact price ($104.74), we will raise the issue of possible legal action once again. Until then, we will all be watching. And waiting.

Now my question is, who else got this exact same letter, if anyone? If any other person got this exact same letter, word for word, then chances are there were so many angry mails, that they wrote up a letter for that item, and sent it to the many many (thousands?) of people.

Myself and I
08-14-01, 04:30 PM
Yeah thats funny lol

Über~PhLuBB
08-14-01, 04:41 PM
It apprears that there's another site doing the same damn thing. If you check out www.pricewatch.com, you'll notice the second listing under GeForce2 Ultra is for an Asus V7700 GF2Ultra 64MB DDR for $190. I called to verify--it appears the card is almost twice as much, some $360.

Another stupid company that doesn't know the rules here in the states. You gotzta honor prices.

You want to sick them too? I bet we could.