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HiProfile
05-07-04, 07:00 PM
It sounds wierd in the title, but trust me, it'll make sense soon.

I have a bunch of electric raido-controlled cars, and they don't exacly use garden-variety batteries - 2400mAh sub-C NiCd's and 3300 mAh sub-C NiMH's. I have a high-end microprocessor-controled variable 0.5amp-7amp NiCd/NiMH battery charger, but it runs on 12v DC only. My problem is that most power supplies in the R/C industry are almost as much as the charger - $60+ for anything over 5 amps @12v, and I need a minimum of 7 amps. ATM I use an old 12v car battery that couldn't hold enough charge for an engine. Not only does it lack the power of a normal car battery, it also weighs more than my dog.

My plan was to take one of the many unused ATX psu's around my house, rig a switch to 'short it on', and enjoy well over 10amps @12v in a much smaller space & for much less than a normal charger psu. The 80mm fan can also cool the NiMH which can get searing hot if I have to charge it close to 4 amps. My problem is that I'll only be using the 12v rail, and most psu specs I see give a minimum load raiting for the 3.3v and 5v rails.

Should I get two of those ceramic resistors that can handle 10+ amps - one each for the 3.3v and 5v lines, or is it unnecessary? The PSU would have to run for at least 30 minutes each charge, and I don't know exactly how bad it is to run w/o a load on one of the rails. I don't feel like trying to remove any circuitry, mainly because I don't know which transistors handle which rail. I'm assuming that, since psu's can run with one of the rails dead or failing, it wouldn't matter if I put a load on the 3.3v or 5v rails [if I don't use it in a PC again]?

Cyrix_2k
05-08-04, 04:24 PM
You need a load on the +3.3v & +5v rails of a switching (PC) psu inorder to get full power on the +12v rail. If you decide not to put a load on the +3.3v & +5v rails, you simply won't get the "Well over 10amps @12v" your PSU can supply.

HiProfile
05-08-04, 08:17 PM
I think I have a good solution, cheap too. I'm going to order some 15 Ohm 25 Watt Power Resistors from bgmicro (and I just ordered other stuff 3 days ago :( ) for $.69 each. They're like the ones in the Tom's Hardware PSU tester (http://www.tomshardware.com/howto/20021021/powersupplies-04.html), which should load the 3.3v and 5v enough IMO. The picture from bgmicro shows them with fins on them like in Tom's guide, so they shouldn't fry. I'm going to get a few of them, rig up a few old PSU's, then maybe sell them to some people that might need them. That's assuming it all works. Now that I think of it, I can even use this for my bump-starter for my gas car. It should love all the juice. It does good with a 7.2v stick pack, and since it can handle 12v...2 birds with one stone!

The only problems I see are that some other PSU testing units use power resistors with much less resistance, and heat. The resistors will probably heat up a bit, and with my luck, the resistor's case (which is meant to screw down for heat transfer) will be connected to one of the tabs. I'll probably have to make an isolated aluminum plate 'stand' for each rail's resistors inside the psu's.