View Full Version : I cannot believe this!
Nebulous
05-07-04, 07:20 PM
I finally get the MCW50 adapter so i can hook up the wb to my new XFX FX5900XT. I take the stock cooler off the card, clean off the goop, assemble the adapter and mount it on the card. The ramsinks are too tall for the lines to clear, so i get my trusty dremel to the ramsink. Use electronic spray and compressed air to clear off the metallic dust. Inspect carefully with magnifying glass, spic and span clean. Remount the block and the card into the pc. Hook up lines and molex. Refill the res and fire up. No sooner the screen is on i got rainbow lines all over the place! :mad: I'm like wtf?? ok, shut off and recheck. Power back on and still lines. It gets to the xp screen with the blue progress bar and right b4 it gets to desktop i get a bsod and then the dreaded message " unsupported input" on my LCD monitor :confused: I shut off again, drain the rig and pull the card. Again i recheck the recheck. Evrything seems fine. nothing out of place. take off the block, clean off the ceramique. Check the core, nothing :eh?: Put ceramique back on, block back on and hook the card back on. Lines, power and again fill up the system. power back on and the same thing occurs. Now i have a brand new dead card and can't RMA it because i had to grind down the dam ramsink to clear the lines. :mad:
glock19owner
05-07-04, 07:23 PM
have you taken the stock ramsinks off and cleaned around the memory chips themselves...something real small could be shorting a leg on one of the memory chips...
Nebulous
05-07-04, 07:24 PM
Originally posted by glock19owner
have you taken the stock ramsinks off and cleaned around the memory chips themselves...something real small could be shorting a leg on one of the memory chips...
No, only 1 of the ramsinks came off. The other wont come off. it's like it's on there for good.
Nebulous
05-07-04, 08:05 PM
Well I removed the other ramsink, cleaned the ramchip and surroundiing areas with electronic spray and compressed air. Put the stock cooler back on and tried it in my back up machine. Same problem. Stripes in colors and then poof black screen :cry:
^^AAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!! sorry dude but that story is hillarious :D hahahahahahaaaa rolf lmao
stratcatprowlin
05-07-04, 08:28 PM
Originally posted by ket
^^AAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!! sorry dude but that story is hillarious :D hahahahahahaaaa rolf lmao
How do u find that funny? i would really really really like to know.
Originally posted by ket
^^AAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!! sorry dude but that story is hillarious :D hahahahahahaaaa rolf lmao
Sometimes the adage if you have nothig nice to say then say nothing at all..Applies..........
and then poof black screen that bit did it for me :D
Laughing at someone's loss like this is a very immature thing to do:mad:
9mmCensor
05-07-04, 08:47 PM
Originally posted by ket
^^AAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!! sorry dude but that story is hillarious :D hahahahahahaaaa rolf lmao
Thats fine, you can have your self centered opinion.
I am a firm believer in Karma though. ;)
ive lost 3 9600pros through various mods gone wrong, and the stories are always funny because nomatter how careful you are it still happend, not to mention it is actually easy to see the funny side in it, its all to do with how the story is described. you cant honestly tell me somebody has told u a what is for them an unfortunate story or whatever and you aint laughed because A: it didnt happen to you, and\or B: you just found the explained senario funny.
stratcatprowlin
05-07-04, 08:55 PM
Originally posted by ket
ive lost 3 9600pros through various mods gone wrong, and the stories are always funny because nomatter how careful you are it still happend, not to mention it is actually easy to see the funny side in it, its all to do with how the story is described. you cant honestly tell me somebody has told u a what is for them an unfortunate story or whatever and you aint laughed because A: it didnt happen to you, and\or B: you just found the explained senario funny.
plzzzz,quit while ur ahead.
im stating fact, im not proving anything. appears to me like you think i actually care what you think. i also dont intend to argue nor do i intend to justify my actions to something that is little more than just a word in a small box to me underlined. if somebody finds something funny then whatever, i cant help that some of u have no sense of humor. nuff said.
Dude quit while you are behind:( The way you did it was rude and obnoxious. It looked like you were laughing at him to me:mad:
{PMS}fishy
05-07-04, 09:30 PM
Dino, thats 2 big dollar cards in a few months.
Take it easy there.
That sucks too.
Nebulous
05-08-04, 01:07 AM
Originally posted by {PMS}fishy
Dino, thats 2 big dollar cards in a few months.
Take it easy there.
That sucks too.
Yeah :( The 9700 pro was my fault. I should've did more of a research on the Etron tech ram chips before i went ahead and did the vmem mod :rolleyes:
This time i did'nt do anything except add the wb. Shaving down the heatsink was to clear the tubing. Never thought that would be the death of the card . I was thinking of vmodding it too, but since it clocked like a 5950U i decided against it.
Thanx guyz.
MrBozack
05-08-04, 05:00 PM
Originally posted by Nebulous
....[snip]...... :mad: .....[snip]........
:cry:
Damn I'm sorry to hear this. Doesn't sound good at all if I'm honest.
I can only compare your loss and offer 2 shots in the dark.
1.
Try on a standard CRT monitor, maybe might help. If nothing happens still, I'd probably plonk in a PCI VGA card and erase the BIOS. I'd then try dumping another in. (I still have the original XFX 5900XT BIOS (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/kristian.norton/XFX%20BIOS/BIOS.BIN) if you need it)
2.
Let it stand for a couple of days on a shelf somewhere. Strange things happen when static discharges or protection circuits kick in.
Sorry I can't be of more help.
MrBozack
05-08-04, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by ket
^^AAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!! sorry dude but that story is hillarious :D hahahahahahaaaa rolf lmao
Where I come from (http://www.fappin.com) we have an emotion for special cases like these.
http://www.fappin.com/board/smilies/jerkit.gif
Steven4563
05-08-04, 05:21 PM
Originally posted by MrBozack
Where I come from (http://www.fappin.com) we have an emotion for special cases like these.
http://www.fappin.com/board/smilies/jerkit.gif
lol i dont think the admins are gonna be very happy with that but its funny ;):D:p
DayUSeX
05-08-04, 06:05 PM
dude really sorry to hear that, just clean it off as best you can and best of luck to you.
PottaCoola
05-08-04, 07:07 PM
I dunno about nvida cards but did you check the ground on the block, dunno if it helps but the instrucions for my vga silencer said there there might be problems with the grounding on the heatsink. could be a ground problem i dunno
rogerdugans
05-09-04, 10:37 AM
Awww, man! :(
That really blows, amigo!
Do NOT give up.......
As stated by someone else, let the card sit a few days and try again- it probably won't work but you have nothing to lose.
If nothing else, let the card sit for a couple of months...and bring it to my house in August- we can have a brain-session on it and if THAT doesn't work, we can use it on the barbecue grill. :)
Wow I just had this problem 3 days ago with my 9800 pro when I I was installing a VGA silencer. I think its a GPU problem. Did you make sure you didnt get thermal stuff on the resistors of the GPU?
Nebulous
05-09-04, 11:06 AM
Thanx rogerdugans, i'll keep that in mind ;)
Miknow, yeah. I even took the shim/IHS off to be sure there wasn't any metal dust from the dremel. There was a few particles which i scrubbed out and rinsed with alcohol. Still the same, no go.
I get dotted lines across the screen, then large 1" wide lines and just b4 it gets to windows I get the "Unsupported Input" message from my LCD monitor :( Guess she's gone to the great beyond.
BlueBall
05-12-04, 06:17 PM
Unsupported input ... that implies it is not functioning as Plug n Pray ... Go into your Bios and set the PnP feature to BIOS ... not OS
If that doesn't do it ... Do as Mr.Bozak said ... flash the Video card BIOS as it may have been corrupted by a short circuit that you may have since cleaned.
I have a feeling this may help you.
Nebulous
05-12-04, 06:35 PM
Thanx guyz for all the info and help.
sandman001
05-12-04, 07:55 PM
Any luck man?
Nebulous
05-12-04, 08:35 PM
Nope :(
I've tried evry combination of commands in dos using both flash utilities and I still get errors and no flash :-/
With WFFLASH: no matter what i type, I get:
Bad command or file name :rolleyes:
With NVFLASH: No matter what i type, even to clear the write protection I get :
NO DPMI Get csdpmi*b.zip
what the heck is that? :confused:
macklin01
05-12-04, 09:01 PM
http://www.student.northpark.edu/pemente/sed/sedfaq5.html
I think you need it on your flash disk to execute the nvflash program. -- Paul
Nebulous
05-12-04, 09:24 PM
Awsome! Thanx macklin :) Now which one do I need? lol I just d/led the 1st one and i'll follow the instructions.
I'll post back with results.
*edit*
cannot upen swap file C:\ csdpmi .swp :mad:
This is too much of a brain tumor headache just to flash this dam card.
Thanx for the help tho, i really appreciate it.
Nebulous
05-12-04, 11:00 PM
Ok, final report:
i redid 2 floppy disks, 1 had the NVflash with the bios file, other had the WFFlash with the same bios file.
With NVFlash and different commands i got= "cannot open file"
Using WFFlash with and without the "NM" command i got=
"Cannot Find NV Device"
In red I got = " Programming is fail (X)
Then i got "Cannot map nv address "
I tried evrything to bring the card back to life. Not even flashing will work :( Oh well, back to the 'ol drawing board.
MrBozack
05-13-04, 05:48 AM
I too get the error message;
cannot upen swap file C:\ csdpmi .swp
I'm wondering if this is the reason why I can't flash the rom properly ( 4 bit colour with every bios tried, even other lower XT cards, fresh OS install etc )
I use nvflash 4.41 (which I understand is supposed to have full write protection removal features)
If anyone can help with this, I too would love to hear from them.
:bang head
BlueBall
05-13-04, 08:38 AM
Flashing my 5900XT was a 5 minute job.
From a DOS bootdisk "nvflash filename.ROM" using 4.41
If you can't flash it then I'm affraid it may be toast. (Odd that you can get right up to windows .... that suggests it has functionality)
On the good side, atleast you've learned alot about these cards and troubleshooting. Unfortunatly at your expense.
Good luck .... try again in a few days/weeks ... you never know
BlueBall
05-13-04, 08:39 AM
NEVER FLASH WHILE OVERCLOCKED
macklin01
05-13-04, 11:04 AM
You know, that's a very good point. Try taking the whole system down to stock and give it another shot.
As for csdpmi, go to this site:
http://www.delorie.com/pub/djgpp/current/v2misc/
Download csdpmi5b.zip. Extract it, and try putting all four executable files that are in the bin directory onto the floppy in question. -- Paul
Nebulous
05-13-04, 11:26 AM
Well, I downclocked to stock speed, got the csdpmi bundle and followed instructions. Still get the same errors :rolleyes:
Guess I'll toss in the towel on this and just write it off as a total loss.
Appreciate all the help.
$anch3z
05-13-04, 12:02 PM
sorry to hear ya bad news dude but dont give up with it.....i have fried a couple of cards from overcloking and modding and looks as if my current card is on the way out but also having trouble flashing the dam bios:rolleyes:
Nebulous
05-13-04, 12:24 PM
Well I'm sending to someone who specializes in bringing back parts from the dead. He's been pretty successful so far. i got nothing to lose and if he brings it back from the dead I'll have a nice back up card :D . if not, well no harm done.
MrBozack
05-13-04, 03:53 PM
I asked XFX if it was possible to force in other bioses to their card.
They've been very helpful so far.
:|
From XFX support
Hi, we don`t have any BIOS updates available for this model - the 5950 bios is not compatible. For the moment you will need to use the utility to change the memory frequency speed. We will let you know if/when updates are available, best regards
So they're basically telling me the card will not support a 5950U bios. They've previously told me that they don't support BIOS updates either.
This is great.. because every second restart my memory resets back to 800mhz memory frequency...
My card can run at 5950 speeds with the current BIOS... so why can't it work??
:mad:
Nebulous
05-13-04, 06:56 PM
Dang :(
Well I'll be happy if my card works at all. i mean it has life in it, just that it's locked in a death struggle.
UnLoadeD
05-14-04, 09:16 AM
Anything I've ever cut/ground with a Dremel got really hot due to the friction. And because a heatsinks job is to take heat from source to cooler area, the heat went to your ram chips. I suspect you burnt up a few of the mem chips, and this explains why you get partial functionality from the card. Once a demand is placed on the damaged chips you get the failure. Next time try using a small file of other manually operated tool.
peace.
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