Multipliers

[Snatcher]

Is there a way how u can unlock the multipliers on an intel based system?
Currently i have an 800Mhz P3 coppermine, managed to get it to 840 with FSB increase in bios, and 512MB of ram
Thanks,
By the way i am new here ;) :confused:

[Allan Nielsen]

Welcome to our forums! :)

Sorry, but NO, you can't unlock the multiplier on your P3. :(

With good cooling (better than stock) you should be able to get a lot more out of that CPU. (If the mobo and the rest of the system can handle it)

Anyway, the key to a good overclock is cooling! :) Adding a paper thick layer of thermal grease to the cpu should also help!

[Snatcher]

Sorry but what is the mobo, and so u mean that apart from getting the speed up through the bios there is no way?:eek:
Oh man i am thinking of getting an amd system , is it easily overclocked?
:D

[Allan Nielsen]

Mobo is just short for motherboard.

SOME AMD systems overclock easily, and you can unlock the multiplier on those CPUs. However, you will still need some good cooling, as they get even hotter than intel CPUs.

Why not bump up the FSB and voltage on that 800 you have, and make it a 1gig? (Still, you will need good cooling)

[Snatcher]

so currently the case is off, and i have a 16inch fan blowing on it, and it is quite cool, can u tell me how to bump up the voltage please?

[Allan Nielsen]

I would have to know what kind of motherboard you have... Possibly you can do it thru the BIOS, or perhaps with pins on the board itself...

[Snatcher]

I currently have a tyan s1854 mobo but i dont like it much

[samuknow]

Originally posted by Snatcher
so currently the case is off, and i have a 16inch fan blowing on it, and it is quite cool, can u tell me how to bump up the voltage please?

Snatcher,

Welcome, if you could, provide as MUCH information about your system as possible. This will help give a picture of where a problem could be.

Alan is the right man to be helping you. He is very knowledgable.

Good luck

[Snatcher]

Ok here is the info if u can help me :confused:
Pentium 3 Coppermine 800 @ 900
Mobo: Tyan S1854 Trinity 400
512MB RAM PC133
HDD 20GB
VOODOO 5 5500 AGP @ 170 Mhz
Creative soundblaster LIVE! 5.1
Toshiba 12x DVD

So now, how can i increase my voltage?:D

[Allan Nielsen]

I did an extensive search, and it would seem there is NO WAY to adjust the core voltage on the board... however, there is another solution... read on below!

If found this:
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...we were able to run our FC-PGA PIII-550E in the socket, although overclocking is not really an option when using the S370 interface, due to the lack of core voltage adjustments on the board
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and this:
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Tyan definitely has not targeted this board for overclockers. As mentioned above, there are no provisions for voltage adjustments, and the FSB settings are somewhat buried in the BIOS. These are the available FSB selections:
66, 75, 83, 95, 100, 112, 117, 124, 133, 138, 140, 150
Although there aren't many options, the Trinity 400 is decent for overclocking. We were able to take our PIII-550E Flip-Chip up to 825 (5.5x150) without any trouble using the Iwill Slocket II's voltage adjustment.
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So, in order to increase voltage you will need a slocket that will allow this. Some slockets have jumpers for this - the Soltek is one of them, Iwill is another. I assume your CPU is FC-PGA!?

Good luck! What are your temps by the way?

[Snatcher]

What do temps mean, and now it seems like i have to get a new motherboard :(
anyway right now i am looking for a good athlon, anyone has got any ideas on which is the best, currently i am heading towards the 1.4 Ghz?

[Allan Nielsen]

Sorry, temps is short for temperatures. I need to be more clear on things! :)

I think a 1.2 will overclock just as well as a 1.4 - but AMD questions are better off in the AMD CPU section, so you have to post there, to get more help.

[Snatcher]

Yeah about the temps, i tried MBM 5.0 but it is reading nothing?
maybe i will try a thermomter ;)

[Allan Nielsen]

You need to set up MBM corresponding to your motherboard, in order for it to show you the temp.

I would like to know the CPU temp, you can probably also see that in BIOS... at least it gives us a rough output.

[Snatcher]

Well i went on the MBM site but my mobo is not supported, and so i am left without any temp monitoring.....
Also today i have started the designing of my new improved case
this is the state of my pc

[Snatcher]

also do u have any knowhow on where i can find info regarding the slotek?

[Allan Nielsen]

Try this:
http://www.active-hardware.com/english/reviews/mainboard/sl02a.htm

And this:
http://server39.hypermart.net/mtoverclocking/reviews/slocket.shtml

Both are reviews of the soltek slotket. (socket 370
to slot 1 processor adapter)

[Snatcher]

i have repositioned the power supply on the external side of the pc so there is more airflow near the cpu, also i think that my pc is a socket type already can u see and judge by the photo?

[Sklathill]

I don't think anyone has asked this...

Which 800 do you have? Are you running 8 x 100 or 6 x 133? Both versions are out there. If you have a 6 x 133, you might be running into components being out of spec well before you reach the maximum of the proc.

[funnyperson1]

Originally posted by Snatcher
i have repositioned the power supply on the external side of the pc so there is more airflow near the cpu, also i think that my pc is a socket type already can u see and judge by the photo?
thats definitely a socket, if you get snadra itll tell you exactly what type, then you can get a slocket and a slot 1 mobo...my p3v4x has kept me happy.......

[Snatcher]

Thanks, in fact i am running a 6 x 133 spec, and it was unstable at 6 x 150, i wonder why:confused:

[Allan Nielsen]

As far as I understand the mobo you have supports BOTH slot1 and socket. All you need is a slocket and a flippy CPU that is 100Mhz FSB.

Too bad that 800MHz is the EB, as it doesn't have much headroom to overclock, when the FSB is at 133 from the beginning.

[AmbientFiction]

If you buy an Intel CPU in the future never buy one that looks like this 800mhzEB the EB means that it has a 133mhz bus and will not really overclock because its already pushing the core.

[Allan Nielsen]

Originally posted by AmbientFiction
If you buy an Intel CPU in the future never buy one that looks like this 800mhzEB the EB means that it has a 133mhz bus and will not really overclock because its already pushing the core.


Not quite right... the problem with the EB's isn't the core - it is the high FSB. The motherboards can only handle FSB overclocking to a certain extent. So it isn't the CPU itself that can't handle the overclock - it is the system as a whole...