First time water cooler

[tim_g620]

I'm going to get following. Please let me know if I need something else:

1 x Hydor L30 Pump
1 x JR-120 Hi Performance Radiator
1 x JR 120 Fan Shroud Kit
1 x 120mm Aluminum Fan
1 x TC-4 Poly Topped Block (AMD, P-4)

1 x Danger Den Single Bay Reservoir with High Flow Fittings and 5mm LED holes, 1/2

1 x Purple Ice - 2 oz
10 x Tygon R-3603 Lab Grade 1/2" Tubing
2 x 6pk Worm-Drive Hose Clamps

If I require anything else, please be specific about it :attn: and that would very helpful.

Peace~^^

[ponkan pinoy]

Watch out from what I read, poly-topped blocks usually spring a leak sooner or later.

[Bevman]

Looks like you have done your research and pick some good stuff.

I would just like to know what made you decide on the TC-4. Most people would have went with the WW (if your willing to wait), DD RBX/TDX, or a Spiral (budget rig). Don't get me rong the TC-4 is good block, just courious thats all.

[tim_g620]

Originally posted by Bevman
Looks like you have done your research and pick some good stuff.

I would just like to know what made you decide on the TC-4. Most people would have went with the WW (if your willing to wait), DD RBX/TDX, or a Spiral (budget rig). Don't get me rong the TC-4 is good block, just courious thats all.

I've decided to go with DD Maze4 AMD CPU Waterblock Copper Top w/ 1/2" brass fittings.

Anyone else? Bump~!

[Bevman]

Maze4 is a good low resistance block. Sounds like a good setup. Post pics and stats when done.

[tim_g620]

- ClearFlex 60 Premium Tubing Quantity:10ft

- 1 x Hydor L30 320GPH Pump - 110/120V

- 1 x Danger Den TDX AMD Socket A CPU Water Block

- 1 x Black Ice Micro 80mm PC Radiator w/ Customizable Barbed

- 1 x CritiCool WaterPlant™ clear cast acrylic water reservoir 6" lengths, brass fittings

- 1 x Valvoline Racing Super Coolant 4oz

- 2 x 6pk Worm-Drive Hose Clamps

- 1 x Arctic Silver 5

Above set up is what I ordered. Now all I need is a good aluminum case that doesn't need MOD and has side window panel. Would this be a good case (http://www.sundialmicro.com/cgi-bin/sundial/atc220bax1.html)?? Unlike some people on this forum, I do NOT have case mod skills nor money to buy the tools for it.

[Korndog]

:-/, nice stuff u got there, but i don't know if one BIM would be enough.. might want to get a second one, if not, u should put two fans on there.
as for the case, its a nice one.
try to put the rad on the back, not the top. u'll need all the flow rate u can get with that tdx

[tim_g620]

Should I use a case fan for my radiator or am I suppose to buy a fan that is specifically made for a radiator? :confused:

[daniel_dynasty]

120mm fans will work

[tim_g620]

120mm fan for a 80mm MBI radiator?? :confused:

[Myhre]

:-/, nice stuff u got there, but i don't know if one BIM would be enough.. might want to get a second one, if not, u should put two fans on there.
as for the case, its a nice one.
try to put the rad on the back, not the top. u'll need all the flow rate u can get with that tdx

Hey Korn, I'm going to be using a TDX here on my new rig and I'm also using a MCP600. I've got the Rad mounted up top, but it's only a mid tower case. Do you think that the MCP will be enough flow?

[thegame]

the MCP600 should be able to push it good in that setup.

[Myhre]

the MCP600 should be able to push it good in that setup.


Even thought it's only 184GPH? I'm mystafied by the whole flowrate topic.

[tim_g620]

Would a regular case fan fit on a 80mm Micro Black Ice radiator?? :(

[Raider84]

Even thought it's only 184GPH? I'm mystafied by the whole flowrate topic.


this is what I've been boggled about. People are saying the mcp600 is better then teh 1250. How can a pump, even if it has 2-3 times the head be better then a pump that moves more then twice the amount of water?!?!

[pauldenton]

this is what I've been boggled about. People are saying the mcp600 is better then teh 1250. How can a pump, even if it has 2-3 times the head be better then a pump that moves more then twice the amount of water?!?!

basically it comes down to the fact that our pumps have to work against the restriction of the system - and that rises drastically as flow increases (basically it's proportional to the square of the flow.) the eheim can pump way more than the swiftech in free flow (against no resistance) but as resistance rises it's advantage falls of drastically until a point is reached at which both pumps pump the same flow.
for the 2 pumps you mention it's at about 1.7M of head and just over 7 litres per minute. as the resistance rises above that the mcp600 is able to pump more than the 1250.
see the graph here:
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=263209

what this means for watercooling is that if the loop has a resistance of 1.7M at 7litres/minute of flow either pumps would pump 7 litres/minute.
if the loop is more resistant than that then the mcp600 will pump more (most high performance block setups are likely to fall into this category)
if the loop is less resistant then the eheim would pump more than the swiftech (a setup using a low resistance block like a maze4 would probably fall into this category, unless the rads are very restrictive)

[brisk]

if you didn't order your maze4 yet, the whitewaters are now finally in stock~! just a thought. :)

[tim_g620]

Would a 80mm case fan fit on a 80mm MBI radiator??? :bang head

[isisfreak]

Would a 80mm case fan fit on a 80mm MBI radiator??? :bang head

Yes, it would. But, I would recommend a BIX or a heatercore over the BIM.