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VAdept
05-18-04, 01:44 AM
Between my programming class and my recent viewing of Tron I have been thinking about this quite a bit recently. To begin this discussion I believe this acrually works both ways, we personify computers while we also 'computerize' non-computer related things.

On one end you will hear people say things like "my computer isn't working because its angry with me". Of course we know this isn't the case but it happens often enough. Your average joe or jane will do this when they use computers a lot but rather not try and figure out exact problems or learn the intracacies of how it all works. On the other end of the spectrum you have the hardcore geeks like myself that talk to computers like they are good friends. This can go even further though, how you ask? Our computers are becoming a part of us. Its not even fair to say becoming, they already are.

As we have humanized computers they have computerized us. If your reading this the idea shouldn't be to hard to swallow. As computers are used in ever increasing amounts more people will 'bond' with them. Of course there will be those that reject this, not everyone is so apt to change but I believe the majority will. While user interfaces have seen little in actual development the hardware has and it will just be a matter of time for input technology to catch up. They began clinical trials on BCI's (Braint to Computer Interfaces) this year and its looking promising. Im not hear to preach my beliefs on the subject I would just like to discuss the implications of this shift. Is it good? Bad? Or will it even happen?

I personally think it will, it just seems the logical progression of the path we (humanity) are on. I do think we are losing some of our humanity though, and that could be a major issue. We may be going to far but I think not, we have always adapted to the technology around us. Of course actualy physical links is what will really blur the lines.

If you are interested in this sort of thing I couldn't reccomend anything better to watch that deals with the subject than Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Project. The series based on the Manga/Movie of the same name. I would also have to highly reccomend the book True Names by Vernor Vinge.

I wrote the text below some time ago as I sat around and considered the future. Comment on it if you like but I really wanted to focus on the topics above.

Manifesto

It’s a new world, one of silicon and hopes for the future. Our knowledge and creativity is our strength, its all that’s left to empower this generation. We don’t fear change we embrace it, we encourage it, we are change. The future is before us and people fear it, we hold it in our hands. The limitations are all gone, the world can move within the space of a few keyboard strokes. This isn’t a revolution, its evolution in action. Barring doomsday the technocracy will rise and a socio-technological singularity is on the horizon. We have not chosen this fate, it has chosen us. We are the inclined, the knowledgeable, the so-called technical elite of a society which can no longer be separated from its own technology. We are the cyborgs, if not physically then mentally. Technology is as part of us as our hands, to remove it is to cripple ourselves and to deny it would only lead us to live lies. We will move forward, we have to, it’s our nature. Apathy is the bane of our existence and we constantly wage war with it. We are growing, we are your children and we see the world in a new light. We have no need for war, for government, for violence, we survive on the fringe with or without the aging institutions. Our days are coming, there are those who will choose to be slaves to machines they do not understand but we will not share their fate. We can see the edge, we can feel the current of the net, it calls to us while we study the depths, and its arrival inevitable.
-VAdept

Cjwinnit
05-18-04, 07:06 AM
LEAVE MY BABY ALONE!! (strokes)..

Sony
05-18-04, 08:31 AM
[Swat Team]
Get Down On The Ground,
Place the motherboard in front of you and back away slowly
[/Swat Team]

nil_esh
05-18-04, 08:55 AM
Not so much personify computers as seperate entities... but...

The more you personalize a computer, the more of your information goes into it, the more it becomes an extension of yourself.

The internet, is also just an extension of the human race. It is completely organic.

rhino56
05-18-04, 09:40 AM
when i finish my cold air machine i will have a clear side window with no fan in it. and im going to etch my computers name in the window. i thought of the name Cryo-Jen and i think thats what it will be because my G/F's name is jennifer.
i asked her, "do you like that you have the same name as my computer?" she replied "Yes, but its your computer that has the same name as me." "Oh yeah" i answered :)

moorcito
05-18-04, 09:59 AM
We personify everything around us, ie. sailing ships are female, SciFi aliens almost always look similar to us, etc. As humans, we personify inanimate objects so it is easier to relate and understand things we wouldn't normally.

unreal
05-18-04, 10:01 AM
i dont think we do, its like a hobby to us to set us apart from the average joe computer buyer,

Sony
05-18-04, 01:18 PM
Originally posted by moorcito
We personify everything around us, ie. sailing ships are female, SciFi aliens almost always look similar to us, etc. As humans, we personify inanimate objects so it is easier to relate and understand things we wouldn't normally.

Not just sailing ships are female but all boats in general are reffered to as females. As you said we do this for a lot of things for instance both my comuters have names (Titanium and Oxygen) and I reffer to them as he's not it's. Call me weird but it makes me feel more comfortable.

macklin01
05-18-04, 01:36 PM
to tweak a quote I saw recently on a NASA rover article:

Don't anthropomorphise computers. They don't like that. :) -- Paul

moorcito
05-19-04, 11:45 AM
Originally posted by macklin01
Don't anthropomorphise computers. They don't like that. :) -- Paul

That's the funniest thing I've read in a long time, so I'm going to steal that for my sig. :p

Pinky
05-19-04, 12:20 PM
lol @ macklin :p

I usually don't let other people touch my computer... is that bad?

VAdept
05-19-04, 12:53 PM
Not unless you think its because it will cheat on you Pinky :D

macklin01
05-19-04, 05:39 PM
LOL @ VAdept and Pinky. :)

moorcito, I think I misspelled the big word in your quote. It should be anthropomorphize. :o -- Paul