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Paul -The Mad Hatter
08-14-01, 07:28 PM
Well to cut a long story short,

I came home yesterday night and went straight to the computer, everything was fine as I did 250 hrs of burn in. shutdown and tried to raise the multiplyer to 6.5. no boot. retarted a few times but no luck. bumped the vcore to 1.8. no boot. restarted a few times and it booted right into windows no problem, ran some prime95 and everything went well. shutdowned and tried to raise the multiplyer to 7.0. no boot, so I raised the vcore to 1.9v. no boot, I was kinda worried about this since before I did burnin i was able to do 800mhz at default vcore (its a duron600 by the way) went back down to 6.0 multiplyer, but it didn't boot. messeed with voltage and multlplyers and rebooting for 15 min but couldn't get it to post. took my bro's psu and hooked it up but I had the same problem.

Then AN idea came to me that maybe I had connected the L1 bridges incorrectly and they were connected togheter (kinda like penciling in the L1 horizontaly instead of verticly, if you know what i mean. (using condutive epoxy by the way) so I re did them perfectly, took me awile, and nothing changed. removed them altoghether with alcohol and once again no change. I noticed that I had a little ASll around the die so I removed all the as2 with alkohol and still couldn't boot. for next hour I tried several odd ball things and everything My wild imagination could think of, I even tried connecting the printer since I heard that there was something involved with the 8k7a (my board) that it wouldn't boot w/ the printer, or somthing like that. yeah I tried everything.

woke up this moring gloomy since I haven't used my computer for somthing like 3 weeks, turned my comp. on and same thing. thought that resetting my bios for somthing like the 50th time might help and to my suprise it booted! went into the bios (I acturally don't know why I Think was going to check the voltages to check that everything was fine, restarted and no post, once again tried everything I could and didn't get it to post. called the company I bought the cpu from and they said it would take them 3-5 days to test the cpu. I was readfy to send it back when I got another crazy idea to clean the pins, as usal no post. I had a chipped duron700 that didn't work but I had bnothing to lose so I plugged that in and not to my suprise failed to post. I was about to package my duron 600 and ship it off whern I decied to give it one last try.

I attached the hs (I'm getting pretty good at this since I've done it like 20 times in the last 20hrs) switched the power and IT BOOTED INTO WINDOWS! I couldn't believe it. I ran prime95 totrue test and it pasted, so the cpu seems ok. out of fear I didn't want to shut down since I might not be able to get into windows again. I shut down a few hours ago with anough faithe that it I would see my dektop again to day. just 15 min ago I turned my computer on. no post. restarted and it got right into windows. and now i'm here.

I thimk I may have damnged my cpu by incorrectly connecthing the L1's. or there's somethiong wrong with my bios, I have flashed it twice. what do you guys think?

SOrry ABOut the really long post.

KaHNZa
08-14-01, 09:28 PM
Did you try different memory? Did you try the CPU in a different mobo?

Neptune
08-14-01, 11:12 PM
Did you say you have the Epox 8k7a? If you have a Rev 1.0, this is more than likely your problem. I've had 2 of them mysteriously stop working on me, but i was SOL cause i had dow corning on them prepped for Pelt use... but i never even got to try the pelt, and i can't RMA them. :(

Seriously though, the 1.0 8K7A's are having big problems... go and read about them at the amdmb.com forums.

supraway
08-15-01, 12:49 AM
Ok, when it doesn't post, can you hit the restart button and force it to post? A buddy of mine has this board, and if he does warm restart, or changes bios settings, etc. where you don't manually turn on the power, it will not boot. Sounds more like a power issue than anything. Next time you try to boot, and it doesn't, just hit the reset button, and if I'm right, it should post.

Paul -The Mad Hatter
08-15-01, 01:05 AM
Originally posted by Neptune
Did you say you have the Epox 8k7a? If you have a Rev 1.0, this is more than likely your problem. I've had 2 of them mysteriously stop working on me, but i was SOL cause i had dow corning on them prepped for Pelt use... but i never even got to try the pelt, and i can't RMA them. :(

Seriously though, the 1.0 8K7A's are having big problems... go and read about them at the amdmb.com forums.

Damn! Mine is rev 1.0.

Was getting bios checksum errors so i flashed back to an older bios. so far so good. I'll have to check the amdmb forums and see what problems are happening. to bad my 30 day warrentee is gone, do you know if epox warrants the board for a longer period of time?

Paul -The Mad Hatter
08-15-01, 12:48 PM
Update:

Its not all good I had problems starting it this morning. I think I know whats wrong, the battery is loose. I have a full tower and it wouldn't boot when verticle, I put it horizontal and it booted after a few restarts, I'm going to tinker with it later to day.

train22
08-15-01, 01:33 PM
might actauly be ur mobo... make sure nothing is making contact like the screws when they are loose, that's why horz might make a diff, hope u use pastic washers.

Paul -The Mad Hatter
08-16-01, 03:01 PM
right now i'm running my old mobo. I couldn't get it to post last knight and this morning. does any one know if i can return the mainboard to epox? or if I can get a new bios chip? I can't find it on their website.
thanks

Paul -The Mad Hatter
08-16-01, 05:56 PM
never mind, i found it on their website. 15 $ for a new bios, shipping free. not too bad, I'm going to fax the oprder tomorrow and it should be here soon since i'm in the same state.

The bad thing is that they won't replace my board :( hopefully whats wrong with it is the bios.

TRANCER24
08-16-01, 07:37 PM
Originally posted by supraway
Ok, when it doesn't post, can you hit the restart button and force it to post? A buddy of mine has this board, and if he does warm restart, or changes bios settings, etc. where you don't manually turn on the power, it will not boot. Sounds more like a power issue than anything. Next time you try to boot, and it doesn't, just hit the reset button, and if I'm right, it should post.

Ive had those same exact problems but i seemed to fix the problems. i was using 2 NICs a Netgear NIC and a Lynksys for internet connection sharing those problems started occuring when i put the netgear NIC in. I couldn't figure out why it was doing that so what i did is simply took out the netgear NIC and everything is working fine i never have to hit the reset switch anymore to post who knows it could be a conflict or thise board hates Netgear NICs..

Paul -The Mad Hatter
08-17-01, 12:09 AM
Originally posted by TRANCER24


Ive had those same exact problems but i seemed to fix the problems. i was using 2 NICs a Netgear NIC and a Lynksys for internet connection sharing those problems started occuring when i put the netgear NIC in. I couldn't figure out why it was doing that so what i did is simply took out the netgear NIC and everything is working fine i never have to hit the reset switch anymore to post who knows it could be a conflict or thise board hates Netgear NICs..

Well when i was trouble shooting I removed my only other card besides my video card; my modem. funny thing is it worked for awile but soon afterward it kept giving me the same problem. it seemed like evertime I made an adjustment I could boot, but only for a short time.

tODAY I took the mobo out of the case and tried to run it but no luck. by the way when you were having the same problem were you getting FF on that screen ? (i forget what its called, maybe POSTMAN or sothing like that.)