Designing Watercooling for Lian-Li V2000

[Moony349]

I'm trying to design my new system and I'm leaning toward the V2000 Lian-Li case. I just need some help on part selection. I know it's going to be 1/2 id tubing, and probably using the DD Maze4 and DD TDX unless someone else has a better suggestion on blocks. More importantly, I need advice on pump/radiator that I'll be able to fit in the V2000. The case is huge, but I'm not sure exactly how big the rad/pump can be. Anyone have any suggestions? Link to the V2000, the rad would probably go in the bottom section next to the PSU correct? V2000 (http://www.lian-li.com/products/pcv2000.htm)

[Xenocide]

this is what a friend and i are doing for his

http://216.120.229.133/dump/newlianli_ducts01.jpg

[Moony349]

Looks interesting. So you're using blowers to exhaust the air out of the case horizontally? Just wondering, how big exactly is the space to fit the radiator/pump/blower arrangement? Do I need to fit the harddrives down there? Also, what radiator/blower combination are you and your friend considering?

[Xenocide]

im looking a a single pass fedco heatercore, with the blowers blowing air in and it exausting itself out the mesh side. the hdds look like they are going to be in the 5.25 bays with some nice coolers, since they will be raptors. Pump i think is gonna be the DD pump either put it in the mobo section of the case, or fit it between rad and psu

[Moony349]

Anyone else have thoughts on Xeno's design? I might just try it. Btw, what's the CFM/DB rating on blowers such as the one you're planning on using? Also, I may just decide to use 120mm fans, what's the best radiator for up to say, 150 bucks that'll fit inside the case next to the PSU.

[BlueAqua]

I am going with the same case and my ideas are:

Good Pic
http://www.hardwarezone.com/img/data/articles/2004/1050/lianli_pc-v2000.jpg

Aqua Computer Airplex Evo 360 Triple 120mm Rad mounted on the top

http://www.aqua-computer.de/prodimg/nd_products/360_500.jpg

with an Aqua Computer matched fan grill
http://www.aqua-computer.de/prodimg/nd_products/b360_500.jpg

I'm going to use their AquaStream 12v pump
http://www.aqua-computer.de/prodimg/nd_products/aquastream_500.jpg

Definitely the Aqua Computer Aquerro(this can monitor flow, 6 temps, fan controls, all sorts of great stuff.)

http://www.aqua-computer.de/prodimg/nd_products/aquaero_500.jpg

And of course their Aquatube mounted in two of the front drive bays.
http://www.aqua-computer.de/prodimg/nd_products/at_oben_unten_500.jpg

I think I'll use their waterblocks too but haven't totally decided on that yet. I do think the new Lian Li V2000 is an extremely awesome case and I'll definitely pick it up for my next project.
Now, don't steal all of my ideas.

I don't about the mesh grill on the side idea. I'd hate to cut into the side panels of this case(2mm solid aluminum that's very well made.) Not saying it would be hard but I think would take away from the overall look of this case. I know I plan to cut the top which is probably not much different but I like to have the sides stay the way they are. I'm trying to achieve a very quiet computer, although sometimes I wonder how I can fit a Vapochill LS into this case. I'm still pondering that one.

I was also thinking of a dual loop setup with black ice micro 2 radiator right above the power supply. Then I might TEC my video card and have it's own loop just for it.

There is so much room in this case without looking huge, it's a great design.

[Moony349]

Yeah. I really like the ThermoChill He 120.3. Think it'd fit next to the PSU, and I could probably mount 6 120's on there in push/pull, blowing out horizontally?

[Moony349]

Yeah I was thinking about that, but I figure, you can't really fit a rad up top in this case. It'd have to go at the bottom b/c of the design. Also, are the mounts for the harddrives etc. removable? Because I think I'd need that lower space for the rad. I can just put the HD in a 5 1/2 bay.

[BlueAqua]

I think there would be plenty of room in the top of this case. It might hang over your motherboard a bit but nothing is on that side of the motherboard unless you have a ton of PCI cards. I think it's a good use of space and leaves the rest of the case for lots of other "fun" stuff.

[RickCain]

I don't know about the V2000, but i just picked up my V1000 today and will be spending the next few days getting the goods installed. ;)

[xgman]

here ya go, but pump etc. on mine is external.

[xgman]

and the inside:

[xgman]

There is room and mounts above the PS but only for a 2 80mm rad/fan design. I don't recall the hard drive mounts are removeable, but I guess you could cut one section out if needed.

[ShoNuff]

BlueAgua...I am have a very similar idea. I am waiting on the Evo 360 to arrive. Probably won't be here until after 6/4. I just ordered the new L.I.S. 2. See the pic below:

http://www.plycon.com/cases/lis2_black_blue.jpg

As far as the case goes I am going to get the black V2000B. Just haven't ordered it yet. Thinking about having Voyeurmods do a custom window. Not sure what I want at this point. I wonder why Lian Li did not include a window with the new cases?

I'm going all Euro with the cooling this time. Using the NexXus HP Pro, GPX and their NB cooler as well. I'm really looking forward to all of the stuff getting here.

[xgman]

Lian Li says windows may be available for the V1000-2000 in July. I couldn't wait though. ;)

[ShoNuff]

Originally posted by xgman
Lian Li says windows may be available for the V1000-2000 in July. I couldn't wait though. ;)

Good job on your window. :thup:

[xgman]

I stole it form my Coolermaster case. :)

[Stee]

love that case, cant find them anywhere in the UK tho, same really with the aqua computer stuff, i know its a german company since i saw the aquatube months ago, not sure of any uk dealers for them either tho.

[BlueAqua]

Xgman, nice job. That window looks great. I think I might have to do something just like that. We'll see. Finally a good picture of that case with actually stuff inside. So far not too many good pictures from reviewers with their stuff in it.

Xgman, you should create an entire thread on your case with tons of pics and stuff, I'd like to see more..

[xgman]

Originally posted by BlueAqua


Xgman, you should create an entire thread on your case with tons of pics and stuff, I'd like to see more..

Ok, I'll try to do that later on. In this one you can sort of see how I have my external water box next to the case. This V2000 is so much fun to work with. No more tight quarters. Full access to everything. And even though it doesn't have a removeable MB tray, you don't need it since the MB is in a separate compartment.
the little black switch on the from is to turn the front lights on and off.

[ShoNuff]

xgman, do you think you could have fit (or is it fitted?) a radiator on the inside top of the case? My only hesitation with the V2000 is that I will not have the space on top like I have with my PC-75.

[xgman]

Good question. I think it may, but it would block the upper part of the access to the MB. A better location may be through the top cd rom slot and sticking out towards the MB. I think there is room for this and there are 7 full size slots, so you still would have plenty of room for cd drives and control panels.

[Moony349]

I kind of want to fit the radiator inside the case because longer hoses may degrade performance, i mean, if i have it going to an outside case. Any ideas where i could fit a He120.3 with 3 120's?

[StrongBadia]

I love that case, but since I got a prometeia it will never work out. :(

[Xenocide]

the blowers in my diagram are the ones excess has, i think they are 540cfm

[Moony349]

Fitting those blowers down there would require me to cut out the harddrive racks though:(

[xgman]

Originally posted by Moony349
I kind of want to fit the radiator inside the case because longer hoses may degrade performance, i mean, if i have it going to an outside case. Any ideas where i could fit a He120.3 with 3 120's?

I don't think an extra foot hurts much if you have a good pump.

here's mine. (McMaster Carr)

[xgman]

I just don't like having all that extra heat from the pump in the case. I figure the loss from an extra foot is offset by the loss by boxing in the pump with everything else in the case. pluss it effects the vid/cpu etc.

[xgman]

Originally posted by StrongBadia
I love that case, but since I got a prometeia it will never work out. :(

You could put the promy under a V1000 mid size model with the same design if you had the alum promy case.

[StrongBadia]

How would the evaporator get to the cpu socket?

[Moony349]

I think that really defeats the purpose of getting the V2000 then lol. Should I opt for the V1000 and an outside case for the water cooling components? The reason I chose the V2000 in the first place was to be able to fit all of my water cooling into the case, anyone else have opinions on this? Performance wise, how much will using an external case compensate my flow? I'm sure it can be offset by using a powerful pump/rad, but these things cost. Opinions?

[Xenocide]

Originally posted by Moony349
Fitting those blowers down there would require me to cut out the harddrive racks though:(

so?

just get bigger harddrives instead of more of them and put them in the 5.25 bays. keep em cooler and less wires

[Moony349]

Can I get a 10k raptor to fit in 5.25. and then i guess just cut out everything from the bottom?

[BlueAqua]

Originally posted by Moony349
Can I get a 10k raptor to fit in 5.25. and then i guess just cut out everything from the bottom?

That's what I'd do if you're looking to use the bottom for something. I think you could even put a Vapochill LS down there(out of the case and all and backwards then the CPU block would line right up almost)

[nycundaground]

The bad thing about this new case is if a window was made on the case, it would be facing right, not the traditional left. So that would suck for me if u have yur desk oriented for cases with windows facing the traditional left side.
:mad:

[Moony349]

Yeah, not a big deal for me. I guess I'm going to be cutting the bottom out lol. Maybe fit the He120.3 down there, and 6 120's in push/pull, and stick it against a wall, and throw the pump down next to it, should work out. I just hope those hard drive racks aren't important structurally? What should i use to cut them anyway.

[BlueAqua]

Go buy yourself a dremel. It's quite a handy little tool especially for modding computers I think.
You'll definitely have to keep us informed on the rad install, I'm curious to see how that works out.

[Moony349]

lol yeah, I won't be doing it till 2005 though. I'm waiting on 939 Athlon FX's and PCI-X.

[Xenocide]

moony i can have it done for you professionally with the shrouds and mountings cut with a laser for a very resonable price

pm me if you intersted

but yes you can fit any 3.5inch hdd in 5.25 bays, you just need mounting brakets, im sure you can pick up like 2 sets for under a buck if you look in the right place

[Moony349]

I'll definitely PM you if interested as soon as I get this project underway. Thanks for the help.

[xgman]

Originally posted by nycundaground
The bad thing about this new case is if a window was made on the case, it would be facing right, not the traditional left. So that would suck for me if u have yur desk oriented for cases with windows facing the traditional left side.
:mad:

You get used to it and then everyone else can see it for a change. ;)

[xgman]

Originally posted by StrongBadia
How would the evaporator get to the cpu socket?
Drill a hole in the bottom of the case.

[xgman]

Even if you don't load it up with water included, after setting up this 2000 case you grow to appreciate the room and separations to the point of wondering how you ever made due with such a small confining mid-tower case. I am so glad I choose the 2000 over the 1000. Also the 1000 had some problems with large power supplies fitting.

[xgman]

The lower drives are attached with very small rivits. The separataion between the drives and PS compartment looks like it may be adding to the stability and support of the upper separation tray. I think it would still hold ok, but I would think twice before cutting everything out of the bottom.

[Mr.Guvernment]

xgman - what / where di u get / make that case?


Also, seem lian-li is going for their own version of BTX standard by just flipping over the mobo - that is a great idea and i LOVE the idea of where the hard drives are!! i want one of those cases now!

[xgman]

Originally posted by Mr.Guvernment
xgman - what / where di u get / make that case?


Also, seem lian-li is going for their own version of BTX standard by just flipping over the mobo - that is a great idea and i LOVE the idea of where the hard drives are!! i want one of those cases now!

http://www.hampton-technologies.com/


modded window, rear outlets for 1/2" id tubing, side front lights (standard ones fit right up in there) The rear PS/2 plate is interchangeable.

[StrongBadia]

Yes, but if you drill a hole it will have to magically pass through the power supply and through another level of aluminum before reaching the cpu socket :p .

[xgman]

No there is plenty of room in the 2000 behind the power supply and above it. maybe not in the 1000 though.

[StrongBadia]

You also have to remember that the evap is on the wrong side for this case :) . The evap hose sticks out on the left side of the prometeia.

[xgman]

good point.

[kevintrisha]

I just posted my pictures at http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=34877&page=216

This is my Lian Li V2000 Case with two Thermochill 120.3 rads. Hope you like it.

Kevin

[noxqzs]

Anyone else have thoughts on Xeno's design? I might just try it. Btw, what's the CFM/DB rating on blowers such as the one you're planning on using? Also, I may just decide to use 120mm fans, what's the best radiator for up to say, 150 bucks that'll fit inside the case next to the PSU.


This is the current state of my rig. I have gone through about 4 different variations ranging from different radiators, to multi-loops. This arrangement has remained unchanged for well over a year now.

http://home.comcast.net/~bpikb/pics/radfront.jpg

[Froggy]

Wow, how did you find a 3.5 year old thread?

[noxqzs]

Wow, how did you find a 3.5 year old thread?

lol. I didn't even realize. I will go back into my hole.