what is the use??

[phiber]

what is this forum for??
how does programming have to do with overclocking??

[skip]

There were many requests for this Forum and there was a very large thread about it.

Many overclockers are also programmers. Just wanted a place to discuss it.

[William]

yes, I am for it. I am not a big programmer but it can often be tough and there aren't a whole lot of help places on the net for it. Not an overclocking thing, but then again, cyber deals isn't either but is an invaluable place.

[[Oc]acaridans]

Hey I like this..I know nothing about programing. Maybe i'll learn something

[phiber]

what is the most introductory programming code i should learn??

[William]

Originally posted by phiber
what is the most introductory programming code i should learn??

I think Python is often suggested as an excellent starting point in Object Oriented Programming. Visual Basic is easy and is pretty powerful especially going to database work but isn't similar to other languages.

[Mr B]

Nice addition, Skip! Maybe I'll learn something, too...lol

[skip]

Originally posted by phiber
what is the most introductory programming code i should learn??

My background is programming in Visual Basic. If I had it to do all over again, I would learn C first. Although it's NOT an easy language, it is the basis of most other languages. If you know C, you can pretty easily pick up C++, Java and a few others. Many other languages share some of the same fundimentals.

Learning C will also open doors in both the Windows and 'nix worlds.

[skip]

Originally posted by William


I think Python is often suggested as an excellent starting point in Object Oriented Programming. Visual Basic is easy and is pretty powerful especially going to database work but isn't similar to other languages.

Python is cool but pretty complicated, don't you think?

[AmbientFiction]

Python is easier than C or C++ and Python can be tied right into a C++ codeing if I am not mistakeing. I dabbled in it for a short time when I was running Linux as my main. Tilll I get another hard drive I think linux will be on the side lines. I have huge problems with Windows and Linux on the same drive.

[William]

Originally posted by skip


Python is cool but pretty complicated, don't you think?

never used it, just what I often here. VB is what I know as well a tiny bit of C. No time to go out and really learn more.

[skip]

That's my bag, VB. The Classified Ads are written in VB using CGI routines. That's something I wrote a couple years ago.

[CrystalMethod]

VB, C++, Java, Perl, and don't know if this quite qualifies, HTML.
You can get just about anything you need done, and some things you don't with those. Avoid, Pascal, COBOL, I'm sure the list will grow if I think about it long enough...

[[Oc]acaridans]

well here is a question,
I have a strong back ground in computers but know nothing about programing, so let say I want to go out and buy a book to start learning programing tomorrow, what should I buy??

[skip]

Easiest would be Visual Basic

[1g_raider]

I'm ready to learn also. I didn't know s*** about O/Cing prior to joining this forum and I feel fairly comfortable with pushing my chips now...... I'm ready to be a hack programer. I will be watching posts here and trying to learn something.

[AmbientFiction]

Well seeing if you are going to only use windows yes VB is good but if you want to use your program on anyother OS then VB is no good being that it is only a Win platform language. If its the case that you want cross platform then I would say python C or C++ if you want a real challange

[maha_x]

Im studyin Bsd in software engineering and Ive been writing C for 7 years as a hobby. It is difficult language to begin with, but it is the language that other languages tend to mimick. If U have access to MS's VB, its an easy start. If U deside to start with C, pick a book that is C, not C++. C books often come with a free compiler or info on how to get one, so U can get started without buying a whole "tool" as MS VisualBasic.

My interests are right now in graphics and 3D graphics. Im planing to study DX8 as OpenGL seems bit dated now that DX8 offers all that "programmibility" for the GPUs. My former experience is with OpenGL. Ive also done sometin earlier with 2D games and even DOS/PM. Im also interested about audio/video compression algorithms, but havent done anything with them.

Well anyways, Ill be sharing my expiriences here with U. If anyone should get interested in this thread...

[Rob Cork]

I might look around for a book to teach myself something with - sounds like VB or C to start with then! Never really done any programming before, but I've taught myself a bit of HTML from a big fat book I have, so maybe I could teach myself some programming as well. When I get back to college I can always get help from all the compscis (Computer Science students) I know there :)

[Allan Nielsen]

Cool addition Skip!

I know HTML pretty good, and when this semester starts at uni, I'll learn java as one of the first things. (dIntProg - Introduction to programming).

This section could really turn out to help me with the homework, lol.

[el]

Take a C++ class! you will see it is fast and powerful and a huge pain in the ass when you don't understand everything ;-)

[Ridenow]

I was a programing major, so I know C, Pascal, Fortran, Cobol, Basic. I also am familiar with VB, Java, C++ and a few others.

If you really want to know programing start with C, not C++ or VB. Once you learn the basics with C you can move on to the OOP languages. Learning a second language is easy once you have truly learned the first one, that is why many programmers know several languages. C is a very powerful language that is relatively easy to use. I know some people who started with a "higer" level language like C++ or VJ++ and some do well, but most of them do not truly understand what they are doing. They can use things like pointers, but do not know what they are or how they work "behind the scenes". I feel that if someone does not understand the base stuff then they are not able to use the full potential of the language.

Several publishers make some good programming books, Que, Borland, Broderbund and O'Riellys come to mind. If you are looking for a C++ book, get the one by Bjorn Strousen, he wrote the packages that made C++ from C.

Another fact about C that we should know: C was created to write an operating system, that was its purpose. That OS is UNIX. So if you want to truly know Linux, learn some C.

[SickBoy]

#include<brain.h>
#include<TypingSkills.h>

int FinishedTyping;

void main ()
{
cout << "I like the new board, Skip." << endl;

cout << "Now I have somewhere to go when I cant figure out stuff for my classes." << endl;

FinishedTyping = 1;

Signature();

}

void Signature ();
{

If (finishedTyping==0)
return;
else
cout << "SickBoy" << endl;

}

[JigPu]

How hard would C be to learn for me? I'be been hooked on BASIC since my mom's C-64, and my freshman and sophmore years I was learing Pascal. Pascal MUCH more powerfull than BASIC. So how hard would it be for me to learn? What are some benifits of C over BASIC and Pascal (other than noone uses BASIC and Pascal anymore)?

I just noticed this new board today!
JigPu

[vimal]

how does programming have to do with overclocking??

SoftFSB and similar FSB on-the-fly modification programs
Rain and similar CPU halt cycle programs
Powerstrip and similar video card O/C programs
The hack that allows you to monitor thermistor temperatures via a sound card's game port

Of course noone is expected to go straight from printing "Hello World" at the DOS prompt to hacking the BIOS, but I'm sure this is a place where programmers at all levels can share info.

I for one am very comfortable with C++ - WinAPI, MFC, and Winpcap. I'm also comfortable with basic electronics hardware and circuit theory. What I'm missing is some simple, easy-to-follow tips/instructions on interfacing the two (without the use of expensive microcontrollers)

[Ridenow]

Originally posted by JigPu
How hard would C be to learn for me? I'be been hooked on BASIC since my mom's C-64, and my freshman and sophmore years I was learing Pascal. Pascal MUCH more powerfull than BASIC. So how hard would it be for me to learn? What are some benifits of C over BASIC and Pascal (other than noone uses BASIC and Pascal anymore)?

I just noticed this new board today!
JigPu

I also learned them in that order. C is very similar to Pascal and almost all of it translates over, just the syntax is different. Occasionally I will find myself putting something like writeln in where I should have printf. I would say that C is slightly more powerful than Pascal because of the variable manipulations it allows and a few other things. C should be really easy for you.

[namxinu]

Originally posted by [Oc]acaridans
well here is a question,
I have a strong back ground in computers but know nothing about programing, so let say I want to go out and buy a book to start learning programing tomorrow, what should I buy?? :D Skip is right, VB is a great language, however if you want a fundamental language that all other languages stem from it would have to be C or C++. I started dabbling in C and got ticked off, kinda complex, but with C++ the language has been made simplistic for the common user. Don't get me wrong it has it's complexities as well, but most other languages stand on the foundation of C and C++, to include VB, Java, and of course the operating system of unix was written in C. :D

:mad: namxinu :mad:

[sifu quoc]

i think c/c++ is the best place to start... cuz i think alot of its fundamentals are used in alot of other languages...

[Kryten]

Originally posted by [Oc]acaridans
Hey I like this..I know nothing about programing. Maybe i'll learn something

You would be hard pressed not to benifit from knowing C and other derivertives but for a introduction to programming I would recommend VB6 or VB5 at the oldest.

[Treker]

Originally posted by el
Take a C++ class! you will see it is fast and powerful and a huge pain in the ass when you don't understand everything ;-)

Been there done that!!, dont even remember half of what I learned, ugh!

-Trek

[PDL]

This section is a good idea, it will just take some time to get it going.

!! Can't believe I saw COBOL mentioned on this thread !!

I thought they killed that one along with Latin....shiver..shiver LOL
:D