View Full Version : Constant Lockups/Crashes
Goofyman23
05-31-04, 10:07 PM
Seems with this 9800pro I have more problems than I can shake a stick at:
opengl :: d3d :: no matter what game, horrible FPS compared to my old ti4600
Doesnt matter what settings I change, whether its super high detail with FSAA and the works, or if its lowest settings possible, games get low fps. Im on the newest cats and newest DX drivers.
As far as crashing and lockups, almost any game I play will freeze for any given amount of time or crash completly. Counterstrike for example, it seems to crash when blood is sprayed up close or sparks from a bullet hitting a wall. Other games like Tribes2 get random lockups.
Some experiences lately have been that I'll boot up, launch an app and pc immediatly reboots; Windows (XP home SP1) pops up with a page saying its a graphics driver causing the problem.
Any help on these issue would be greatly appreciated, just really really dissapointed in how this card performs compared to my outdated 4600.
CrashOveride
05-31-04, 10:10 PM
You do have the power thing plugged in and a good PSU right? And there arn't any obvious problems (like the HS not making good contact?)
Goofyman23
06-01-04, 01:26 PM
You do have the power thing plugged in and a good PSU right? And there arn't any obvious problems (like the HS not making good contact?)
Its an Antec 350W, and no havent any problems with anything else. Good temps, no artifacts, all hardware is properly seated.
Nebulous
06-01-04, 01:29 PM
Hmmm, could be overheating. Try removing the stock cooler, clean off the thermal goop with alcohol, apply some fresh thermal goop and reseat the cooler. If that doesn't work, RMA the card.
Goofyman23
06-01-04, 01:35 PM
Hmmm, could be overheating. Try removing the stock cooler, clean off the thermal goop with alcohol, apply some fresh thermal goop and reseat the cooler. If that doesn't work, RMA the card.
I've thought about this, but why would it only freeze at certain points? Its not a given amount of time; I could play for 3 minutes or 30 minutes before it happens.
oc_byagi
06-01-04, 01:45 PM
I've thought about this, but why would it only freeze at certain points? Its not a given amount of time; I could play for 3 minutes or 30 minutes before it happens.
maybe a driver problem??? which driver are you using?
Goofyman23
06-01-04, 01:48 PM
maybe a driver problem??? which driver are you using?
4.5 cats
SephirothX
06-01-04, 03:39 PM
What if you try the Omega drivers?
omegacorner (http://www.omegacorner.com)
Goofyman23
06-01-04, 04:42 PM
What if you try the Omega drivers?
omegacorner (http://www.omegacorner.com)
Still locks up.
Goofyman23
06-02-04, 04:58 PM
bumpage, still could use some help to fix this =\
Boomstick
06-02-04, 05:11 PM
Try putting your CPU back to stock, just to help isolate the problem.
Experimental
06-02-04, 05:47 PM
I'm having similar problems with my new 9800PRO from Sapphire. I've tried two different sets of drivers, 4.3 & 4.5 Cat. I've reset my CPU to stock settings as well with no luck. I also turned off fast write in the BIOS. Debating sending the card back at this point...
Brian
P.S. Do we need to do a thorough clean out of video drivers before installing new ones?
Goofyman23
06-02-04, 06:17 PM
I'm having similar problems with my new 9800PRO from Sapphire. I've tried two different sets of drivers, 4.3 & 4.5 Cat. I've reset my CPU to stock settings as well with no luck. I also turned off fast write in the BIOS. Debating sending the card back at this point...
Brian
P.S. Do we need to do a thorough clean out of video drivers before installing new ones?
When I tried the omega drivers, it said just delete the ATi Control panel.
theELVISCERATOR
06-02-04, 06:20 PM
Seems with this 9800pro I have more problems than I can shake a stick at:
opengl :: d3d :: no matter what game, horrible FPS compared to my old ti4600
Doesnt matter what settings I change, whether its super high detail with FSAA and the works, or if its lowest settings possible, games get low fps. Im on the newest cats and newest DX drivers.
As far as crashing and lockups, almost any game I play will freeze for any given amount of time or crash completly. Counterstrike for example, it seems to crash when blood is sprayed up close or sparks from a bullet hitting a wall. Other games like Tribes2 get random lockups.
Some experiences lately have been that I'll boot up, launch an app and pc immediatly reboots; Windows (XP home SP1) pops up with a page saying its a graphics driver causing the problem.
Any help on these issue would be greatly appreciated, just really really dissapointed in how this card performs compared to my outdated 4600.
did you do a fresh install of XP with your new card?
if you didnt...tsk tsk...
you probably still have the dirty scummy remminants of those nasty nvidia drivers lurking in your system ;)
Goofyman23
06-02-04, 11:41 PM
did you do a fresh install of XP with your new card?
if you didnt...tsk tsk...
2 Things:
1) Why does that matter?
2) I've formatted with the card installed.
theELVISCERATOR
06-02-04, 11:55 PM
2 Things:
1) Why does that matter?
2) I've formatted with the card installed.
So you did a fresh install?
Nvidia drivers and
Ati driver clash like maddogs....
cleaners are ok but nothing beats a fresh windows install...
rhino56
06-03-04, 12:46 AM
depending on what your other components are, can you record your voltage readings somehow? it may be your psu. if the card trys to display some kind of tough graphic and requires a boost in power to do it and the psu cant deliver then you get problems. i think a 350 watt is the bare minimum required to run the card.
if you have an older psu or can get one plug in the card on its own power supply to see if thats the problem.
Goofyman23
06-03-04, 08:42 AM
So you did a fresh install?
Nvidia drivers and
Ati driver clash like maddogs....
cleaners are ok but nothing beats a fresh windows install...
Well I'll backup everything tonight and give this a shot.
Boomstick
06-03-04, 12:47 PM
Would a repair install work?
GSXR1000
06-03-04, 07:11 PM
hey Goofyman23 are you overclocking at all? It might be the memory and not the video card. I had a similar problem with my system recently.
Goofyman23
06-05-04, 11:02 PM
hey Goofyman23 are you overclocking at all? It might be the memory and not the video card. I had a similar problem with my system recently.
Ya my cpu/ram is overclocked.
I formatted and reinstalled windows tonight.
CS Still crashes, and it doesnt matter if I'm doing anything or not, but this is the error I recieved tonight:
http://www.goofy-dark.com/images/cs_error.JPG
GSXR1000
06-06-04, 02:07 AM
Is your memory set to 1:1 in the bios? If not try that. It worked for me. hope it helps.
Mr.Radar
06-06-04, 10:55 AM
Yeah, that error you posted sounds like a memory error. Try running Memtest86+ (www.memtest.org).
Goofyman23
06-06-04, 01:37 PM
Memory is at 6:6 and I dont have a floppy drive, would prime95 work?
EDIT: Also, its DDR400 memory and I'm running it at 370.
CrashOveride
06-06-04, 01:58 PM
Could it perhaps be video memory (not system memory)?
Dragonprince
06-07-04, 08:34 AM
Sounds like your OC'd memory is not up to the task of feeding data across the AGP bus to the new card. I'd say you need to reduce your memory OC back to stock and re-OC it after you get the video card working. Also try adjusting the AGP memory size. I set mine to 256m, but I have a gig of ram to work with.
Just as a matter of procedure, I always reset everything to stock whenever I add new hardware because changing hardware upsets the whole apple cart....best to start over when adding new hardware.
Goofyman23
06-07-04, 02:13 PM
I'm getting some odd crashes now, while I'm in windows too.
Last night I was just listening to music and browsing teh web, and it just crashed and rebooted itself. I'm thinking it may be the power supply.
And btw, what determines what the AGP memory should be set at?
Mr.Radar
06-07-04, 02:52 PM
It's usually called "AGP aperature" in the BIOS.
Greetings!
I'm thinking it may be the power supply.
Could be...
Have you been watching the 5v, 12v, 3,3v rails?
Specially the 12v?
Goofyman23
06-08-04, 06:23 PM
It's usually called "AGP aperature" in the BIOS.
This I know, couldnt remember off the top of my head, what I was wondering is what determines what you should set it at... IE 64....128...256...etc.
As far as my problems, I dropped all my voltages back to default, and clocked my 1700 / memory back at normal settings. So far all is well, once my psu comes in (antec true480) I'll bump em back up and see if that was the case.
Experimental
06-09-04, 09:12 PM
Alright, after uninstalling the NVidia drivers, and reinstalling the Omega drivers, I'm still having trouble myself. Random crashes in BF1942 and when just in Windows (Although, the windows crashes haven't been happening lately) While in BF1942, I get a pop up saying that the VCU has been reset by the driver because it stopped responding or something close to that.
I don't think this is a power supply problem, as I have an Antec 480 true blue PS. I've tried several different drivers, nothing is overclocked...my last idea is to just send it back to Monarch...which I know they will give me some kind of trouble for returning it. Anyone have any ideas?
Greetings!
Could be heat related...
Try opening your case and puting a desk fan pointing to it!
Goofyman23
06-12-04, 04:55 PM
Got the new psu in, and now for some reason my Volcano 12 wont allow me to raise or lower the fanspeed....?????
This is really putting a hurt on me, as now I cant run anything cpu intensive otherwise my temps skyrocket.
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