$30 drop on Ahtlon 1.2 MP overnight.

[caveman]

I've been waiting for the Athlon 1.2mp to drop below $200. Didn't relize it would drop from $203 down to $178 today. Nice drop. Can regular Athlon motherboards use this chip. Or, does one have to check each athlon board to see if it is compatible with it.

[chawken]

Originally posted by caveman
I've been waiting for the Athlon 1.2 to drop below $200. Didn't relize it would drop from $203 down to $178 today. Nice drop. Can regular Athlon motherboards use this chip. Or, does one have to check each athlon board to see if it is compatible with it.

You can use this chip on mobo's with the AMD 761 chipset. I am using one on the Epox 8K7A and it is awesome.

[KaHNZa]

Is it possible to use it in a VIA KT133A mobo such as the Iwill KK266 so long as it supports the lower voltage?

[Bender]

As far as I know it should work well with the KK266. The voltage goes low enough and the voltage regulaters are good. What is the default voltage on a 1.2 MP anyway.

[chawken]

Originally posted by Bender
As far as I know it should work well with the KK266. The voltage goes low enough and the voltage regulaters are good. What is the default voltage on a 1.2 MP anyway.

Default voltage is 1.75v. AMD does not recommend using the MP on any chipset other than the AMD 761.

[chawken]

Originally posted by Would71
We-ell.. indeed, $179 for the 1.2 at newegg.. the Palomino just made itself a lot more attractive by falling under $200. I just so happen to have an AMD 760 (761, bah, whatever) chipset sitting here. :D

If I felt reasonably confident that I could get a stable 1.5 GHz out of it with my current cooling, I'd probably go for it.

Actually, you probably won't get 1.5 out of it. I have mine running at 162x9 right now and anything over that, it becomes unstable - but... I am a Seti cruncher and benched marked it against the P4 system and the KT7A 1.4 @ 1.622 - both listed in my sig.

With the same Seti work unit, here are the time results (of course, lower is better):

TH7 P4 1.5 @ 1.680 = 4hrs 23min
KT7A 1.4 @ 1.622 = 4hrs 48min
8K7A Palomino 1.2 @ 1.458 = 3hrs 33min

[TRANCER24]

I thought the AMD MP chips were designed to work running 2 of them at once.. So does this mean that a 1.2 ghz MP will outperform the 1.2 ghz 266 regular chip??

[chawken]

Originally posted by TRANCER24
I thought the AMD MP chips were designed to work running 2 of them at once.. So does this mean that a 1.2 ghz MP will outperform the 1.2 ghz 266 regular chip??

Absolutely. I am running two rigs using Palomino MP chips - the Tyan Thunder K7 with 2x1.0MP and the Epox 8K7A with 1.2 MP @ 1.458. Great machines.

The 1.2 MP out performs every machine in my sig by a minimum of 25%.

[Bluesmoke]

Originally posted by chawken


Default voltage is 1.75v. AMD does not recommend using the MP on any chipset other than the AMD 761.


Hmmm as I read it on the AMD site it seemed to say the AMD 761 MP chipset which is different than the plain old 761 as it supports multiprocessors. The only board they are endorsing right now is the tyan board with two processor sockets. At least thats all I could find... Things are new and I'm sure that more boards including single boards will pop up on the site. I know that several single cpu board makers are claiming palamino compatibility like MSI and Epox. From what we are seeing from folks running these in single 761 boards and KT266 boards they seem to be doing fine..

[hkgonra]

Actually the price is $88 for the 200mhz, and $97 for the 266mhz.

I would post the website that I founf this on but I don't know if that is within the forum rules.

If you need the link e-mail me at hkgonra@aol.com, make the subject 1200mhz processor . I get a lot of junk mail and wouldn't want to delete your e-mail.

[hkgonra]

I'm lost ..........what do you mean ? I'm a newbie, I thought there were only two types of athlons; 200mhz and 266mhz.

[el]

Man you are the man what do you do with all those machines? I have only seen one board with the 761 MP and amd.com says that third party companies are going to make chipsets(read Via) and they should be in stores by December. the dual 1.2's are the same price as a single 1.8 P4/mobo combo!

How much ram can the tyan mp board handle?

[chawken]

Originally posted by Would71
You neglected to mention what voltage you were using with the MP to get to the MHz you quoted. Also, what are you using to cool it?

Vcore is at 1.95v
Mem is at 2.7v
Cooling is a Globalwin CAK38 and AS2

[chawken]

Originally posted by el
Man you are the man what do you do with all those machines? I have only seen one board with the 761 MP and amd.com says that third party companies are going to make chipsets(read Via) and they should be in stores by December. the dual 1.2's are the same price as a single 1.8 P4/mobo combo!

How much ram can the tyan mp board handle?

Up to 3gb of registered DDR.

4 of the machines in my sig are dedicated Seti@Home crunchers - also serving as data backup machines.

[chawken]

Originally posted by Would71
Time for a bump, 'cause I wanna know what kinda cooling chawken is using that he's stuck at just under 1.5 GHz with that MP. Told myself I'm not gonna bother upgrading CPUs until I can get around 500 MHz more than I have now, and get it stable.

Cooling is Globalwin CAK38 and AS2. Idle temp is 32c and full load, running Seti, is 44c.

The MP's do not overclock as well as the standard Athlons. However, if you read my previous post as to time comparisons, you will see that it doesn't take a whole hell of a lot of overclocking to get it to kick the crap out of just about anything else.
When an Athlon MP 1.2@1.458 is doing a Seti work unit 25%+ faster than a Pentium 4 1.5@1.680 with 512mb PC800 Rambus I think that speaks for its performance.

[chawken]

Originally posted by Would71
Hmmm, there's still a bit of difference between your cooling setup and mine, and you're not at the highest possible voltage for our boards. Hmmm indeed..

Yeah, Hmmm. Since you advertise Seti in your sig - tell me how many people, using tbirds, are getting 3hrs 25min. WU times on ave AR WU's. On high AR 1.xxx+, I am getting sub 3hr (2hr 50min.) times and on VLAR's .00x, times of 4hrs 10min.

[chawken]

Originally posted by Would71
I'm not directly advertising SETI, as I don't use it.. I was just being fair to the other team here. :D Your work units are unfamiliar to me.. I only know Folding units.

The processing power to produce finished 'Folding' work units will probably be the same as 'Seti' work units. If you could produce a Folding work unit 25+% faster than a P4 1.5@1.680 and 30% faster than an Athlon 1.4@1.622, that would probably impress you. I know it impressed me when I saw the results.

You want to upgrade your CPU - to at least 500mhz faster than what you have now. The Processing power of the MP 1.2@1.458 is roughly equivalent to a 1.4@1.9+. Of course you could wait about 4 - 5 weeks and the MP 1.4 will be out, but probably well over 200.00.