Hose size and converting

SatanSkin · Jun 5, 2004

Which would be better for 3 block setup with heater core and res with the MCP600 (or whatever the exact name is)? 3/8" or 1/2"? Also, the blocks i wish to get seem to be of mixed sizes. such as some are only 1/2 or 3/8 or 1/4. Would converting those all to one size be as simple as unscrewing the barbs from the blocks and screwing in new barbs of all one size? Such as converting them all up to 1/2"?

zip22 · Jun 5, 2004

converting the blocks depends on which blocks they are. 1/2" is better all around.

A-Speck · Jun 5, 2004

It's best to stick to 1/2" all around, but a single block with 1/2"-3/8" adapters isn't going to kill your system. It all depends on your budget and how much performance you want.

SatanSkin · Jun 5, 2004

i want high performance and am already looking at around $400-500 for the setup. Here is my list so far with links:

Pump - Swiftech MCP600 12v Water Pump Rev. 2 - $80
http://www.frozencpu.com/cgi-bin/frozencpu/ex-pmp-15.html

Radiator - double Heater Core with shroud 1/2" - $50
http://www.dangerden.com/mall/Radiators/heatercore.asp

Reservoir - Blue UV Reactive Tundra Dual 3.5" Bay Reservoir - $30
http://www.frozencpu.com/cgi-bin/frozencpu/ex-res-35.html

Tubing - UV Blue Tubing $2.25 per Foot (15ft) - $27
http://www.dangerden.com/mall/Misc_Hardware/tubing_clamp.asp

CPU block- DDen RBX - $61
http://www.dangerden.com/mall2/more_block3.asp?fmmore=234

NB block -Graph-O-Matic Rev2.0 VGA/Chipset-$45
http://www.highspeedpc.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=HSPC&Category_Code=VGA2

GPU block - Cool-Matic ATI rev1.5 - $105
http://www.highspeedpc.com/Merchant...GY&Store_Code=HSPC&Category_Code=CoolmaticATi

Arctic Silver 5 - 2 tubes @ 7.29 - $15

Total - $413

That is not including fittings, clamps, etc. Also any comments on the setup are welcome. My main worries though are getting the blocks all converted to 1/2" barbs. If the block is....say....3/8" and i switch out the barbs with 1/2" ones will the size of the channels inside the block cause any problems? and if so, any major problems?

Korndog · Jun 5, 2004

why don't u get the swiftech kit, its a lot cheaper and comes wit the mcw600 pump
its at newegg. and it comes with a block thats better then that rbx

SatanSkin · Jun 5, 2004

Reasons not to buy that kit: It doesn't come with blocks for my NB and GPU, the radiator is too small, the RBX is rated better than the MCW600 from what i have seen and heard, and i am looking for some of the best performance i can get without spending an extremely ridiculous amount of money.

Korndog · Jun 5, 2004

procooling reviews shows that the MCW6000 almost meats up with the cascade in preformance (thus better then RBX)
besides that, its all copper. No aluminum top; no corrosion, no plastic top; no cracks.
yea, i totally forgot about the small radiator. i'd still go with the block though.

SatanSkin · Jun 5, 2004

i'm getting the brass or copper or whatever metal top not the poly. and if differring metals, they should be anodized to fight corrosion anyways.

pauldenton · Jun 5, 2004

SatanSkin said:
i want high performance and am already looking at around $400-500 for the setup. Here is my list so far with links:

Pump - Swiftech MCP600 12v Water Pump Rev. 2 - $80
http://www.frozencpu.com/cgi-bin/frozencpu/ex-pmp-15.html

Radiator - double Heater Core with shroud 1/2" - $50
http://www.dangerden.com/mall/Radiators/heatercore.asp

Reservoir - Blue UV Reactive Tundra Dual 3.5" Bay Reservoir - $30
http://www.frozencpu.com/cgi-bin/frozencpu/ex-res-35.html

Tubing - UV Blue Tubing $2.25 per Foot (15ft) - $27
http://www.dangerden.com/mall/Misc_Hardware/tubing_clamp.asp

CPU block- DDen RBX - $61
http://www.dangerden.com/mall2/more_block3.asp?fmmore=234

NB block -Graph-O-Matic Rev2.0 VGA/Chipset-$45
http://www.highspeedpc.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=HSPC&Category_Code=VGA2

GPU block - Cool-Matic ATI rev1.5 - $105
http://www.highspeedpc.com/Merchant...GY&Store_Code=HSPC&Category_Code=CoolmaticATi

Arctic Silver 5 - 2 tubes @ 7.29 - $15

Total - $413

That is not including fittings, clamps, etc. Also any comments on the setup are welcome. My main worries though are getting the blocks all converted to 1/2" barbs. If the block is....say....3/8" and i switch out the barbs with 1/2" ones will the size of the channels inside the block cause any problems? and if so, any major problems?

you will find it extremely difficult (if not impossible) to convert the chipset and gpu blocks, which are 6mm ID (less than 1/4"

) to 1/2"

if performance is your concern they are an eccentric choice (to say the least....)

iiwy i'd replace the chipset with this:
http://www.dangerden.com/mall/blocks/maze4_chipset.asp

even the brass top version is $12 less than your choice, already comes in 1/2", and is the lowest restriction chipset block available .... (aircooling would be cheaper and even less restrictive, but that's another issue...)

unless you are unfortunate enough to have a mobo without mounting holes don't get the SHD version of the block... it's inferior to the holes as a mounting method, and more $...

personally i reckon the gpu block looks a bad idea too -
silverprop fusion HL and some ramsinks would be my choice... and cheaper too.

SatanSkin · Jun 6, 2004

It was my understanding that most blocks used 1/4" threaded holes for the barbs to screw into. I know the gpu block does at least. Everywhere says that it is 8mm (the gpu block). Also, for the gpu, i was trying to get a nice watercooling answer for the gpu and ram together. However I will probably end up having to go with the ramsinks and a gpu block. What are some of the best gpu blocks that you reccomend off the top of your head? And thanks for the suggestion on the chipset block. I wasn't too set on that block anyways. Thanks again.

pauldenton · Jun 6, 2004

SatanSkin said:
It was my understanding that most blocks used 1/4" threaded holes for the barbs to screw into. I know the gpu block does at least. Everywhere says that it is 8mm (the gpu block). Also, for the gpu, i was trying to get a nice watercooling answer for the gpu and ram together. However I will probably end up having to go with the ramsinks and a gpu block. What are some of the best gpu blocks that you reccomend off the top of your head? And thanks for the suggestion on the chipset block. I wasn't too set on that block anyways. Thanks again.

they are 8mm OD, 6mm ID

iirc innovatec use a 1/8" thread.....

silverprop fusion HL (to clear the ramsinks) - don't know any others that are high enough to clear ramsinks (unless you are going to use a TEC on the gpu...)

SatanSkin · Jun 6, 2004

Would the maze4gpu block not interfere with the ramsinks?

DarkDraco · Jun 6, 2004

finally someone made UV reactive tubing!!
did you recieve them yet? if so are they flexible and not stuff like vynil tubes

SatanSkin · Jun 6, 2004

Sorry, darkdraco. I have not ordered these parts yet. I was simply piecing the setup together. I will hopefully be ordering them shortly have I get a job which should hopefully be a few days. I'll let you know as soon as I get them though.

Despotes · Jun 6, 2004

SatanSkin said:
Reasons not to buy that kit: It doesn't come with blocks for my NB and GPU, the radiator is too small, the RBX is rated better than the MCW600 from what i have seen and heard, and i am looking for some of the best performance i can get without spending an extremely ridiculous amount of money.

The MCW6000 costs almost $20 less than the RBX, is a better performer especially with a low flow system, and is more versatile with it's different mounting options allowing for future upgradeability.

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DarkDraco · Jun 6, 2004

my maze4 should hold off until i get my cascade

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