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deathstar13
06-14-04, 03:33 PM
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=36997



read it for more info. isnt great news for us ic7 owners tho as a vtt mod is still needed.everyone else should be fine.

bigtoe-As far as i know the PR is tomorrow with units fllowing shorly there after

CrashOveride
06-14-04, 03:48 PM
We may well see some flaming memory modules :p;)

disco_bazoon
06-14-04, 04:19 PM
Yay, this looks like a very promising product indeed. Adjustable all the way up to 4.2v baby!

deathstar13
06-14-04, 04:24 PM
from what i see and i may be wrong this just plugs in one ram socket and over rides the voltages and you get no performance loss like the one that you plug the mem modules into.

im bummed i need to mod my mobo tho to use it.im not sure how the vtt is affected if its not raised synch but ill try and find out.

Turd Furguson
06-14-04, 04:26 PM
I dunno if it will be good for us or not. Can you imagine how many threads will we get here like OHHH NOOS I burnt up my Corsair 3200XL !!!!1111one Can you help me fix it now !!!

DaWiper
06-14-04, 04:46 PM
:thup:
That is a product I need. Get me beyond that annoying 2.7v limit.
Let's hope it won't be too expensive.

deathstar13
06-14-04, 04:46 PM
I dunno if it will be good for us or not. Can you imagine how many threads will we get here like OHHH NOOS I burnt up my Corsair 3200XL !!!!1111one Can you help me fix it now !!!we just get a sticky "saying noobs dont play with fire"
probley just as many we get asking for vdimm mods.but at least this way we can have a good laugh.

trueplaya4ever8
06-14-04, 04:51 PM
i seen that yesterday as a matter of fact, thats goood :D.. me wants.

Suma
06-14-04, 05:00 PM
Makes me feel bad I already modded my board :p

Suma.

mrspec3
06-14-04, 05:27 PM
Mine is commiiiiiiiiing :D

Gautam
06-14-04, 05:31 PM
I have BH5!!! I need all the voltage I can get...in fact, its an insult to my fine memory to be run at 2.8v. This looks like a nice backdoor for wussies like myself.

wannaoc
06-14-04, 05:47 PM
This will help me big time since even with my vdimm mod on my nf7-s the board won't go over 3.2 volts without issues. I will be giving these a try for sure, I want to feel the fire off my BH-5! :burn: At least one if they cost too much.

CircuitBreaker8
06-14-04, 05:48 PM
What in the world are you talking about lol

CrashOveride
06-14-04, 08:42 PM
What in the world are you talking about lol

The OCZ's yet to be completly released innovation.

ar47bl13
06-14-04, 08:57 PM
So these will work on almost any mobo correct? Even say, my Abit NF7-S v.2.0?

malinois1
06-14-04, 09:05 PM
So these will work on almost any mobo correct? Even say, my Abit NF7-S v.2.0?
Yep any mobo :D I already have 3.2V. Now I just need some BH-5 or 3700eb to put that thing to use.

ar47bl13
06-14-04, 10:21 PM
Yep any mobo :D I already have 3.2V. Now I just need some BH-5 or 3700eb to put that thing to use.

Hm..I bet it will be around $45 bucks..anyone else wanna take a guess?

krag
06-14-04, 10:29 PM
Hm..I bet it will be around $45 bucks..anyone else wanna take a guess?

That would be cool. Cause I am all over this like white on rice!! :burn: :burn:

ar47bl13
06-14-04, 10:31 PM
That would be cool. Cause I am all over this like white on rice!! :burn: :burn:

LOL..This corsair ram I have has been some of the ****tiest(So ****ty I won't capiltalize "corsair") and I have been wondering what it would do at 3.2 volts but not good enough to do vdimm..I think my sig may be old..I have 2x256 corsair 3200C2PT v1.2(ch-5 or 6 I think).

trueplaya4ever8
06-14-04, 10:58 PM
Hm..I bet it will be around $45 bucks..anyone else wanna take a guess?
that would be good but i doubt it will be that cheap, prolly $100 if you ask me.

deathstar13
06-14-04, 11:09 PM
Hm..I bet it will be around $45 bucks..anyone else wanna take a guess?$35-$40 as its rather simple design wise.
if its $100 i think id pass on it and just voltmod my mobo.

ar47bl13
06-14-04, 11:12 PM
$35-$40 as its rather simple design wise.
if its $100 i think id pass on it and just voltmod my mobo.

Yep.

krag
06-14-04, 11:42 PM
$35-$40 as its rather simple design wise.
if its $100 i think id pass on it and just voltmod my mobo.

Me three!

$1.75 50k pot & 4c worth of wire will beat $100 anytime. Hope your reading this OCZ?! :cool:

trueplaya4ever8
06-14-04, 11:47 PM
well maybe i dont kno much ehh :D

CrashOveride
06-14-04, 11:54 PM
$35-$40 as its rather simple design wise.
if its $100 i think id pass on it and just voltmod my mobo.

Ya, for a 100 bucks I could buy another motherbaord should I screw up a voltmod... Or new memory, I guess not both though :p

deathstar13
06-15-04, 12:12 AM
eh i think ocz has some brains in the offices,not the fools we used to see a year and half ago.
they know if they wanna sell anything its gotta make modders not wanna mod and just spend a few extra bux to do the same without hassles.

this is from the ocz rep at another forum.
bigtoe:This unit is not for the board modders..we know this.There will always be those who just add a pot and off they go. Now there are some that want plug and play this unit is just that. Plug it in and wind it up...nothing else to do! Specualtion on price..all I can say is online it should not be to bad..nothing is fixed yet and im on the price fixing team so as soon as i can i will tell you.

im standing by my $35-$40 guess :D

wannaoc
06-15-04, 02:53 AM
What in the world are you talking about lol
Did you even read what this post is about?

I would have to agree it will probably be no more than $50.00. If its more than that I hope OCZ wants to keep alot for themselves because like said above you could just replace the motherboard for that much.

mrspec3
06-15-04, 04:03 AM
im standing by my $35-$40 guess :D


That's my guess too. But these thing's are so sweet. Now you can run over 3.3V into your ram without haveing to run your 3.3V line @ like 4.5V as I did back in the day. The power from this will aslo be much more stable since the puny power circut on the motherboard doesn't have to strain to provide some 1V or more than it was inteded too (it's actually the added current that is the problem but you get the idea). So ya....I want one :D

Steve

wannaoc
06-15-04, 08:59 AM
Oh its the day....I can't wait. I need these sooo bad for my BH-5!

flapperhead
06-15-04, 09:11 AM
4volts here i come

CrashOveride
06-15-04, 09:23 AM
dead memory there he goes... :p

deathstar13
06-15-04, 10:50 AM
dead memory there he goes... :plmao....
sadly this is gonna happen to some oc'rs using this and ALOT of noobs.

i can see it now " i just bought my ram over-volter and i saw billybob at oc.com using 4v on his bh5 so i know its safe and i onnly used 3.8v so i wouldnt hurt anything and now i have a dead mobo and 1 gig of dead BH-5! wwaaaaaa..!"

still no news at ocz site.

Sentential
06-15-04, 11:06 AM
YES!!!! How much is it? Cuz its totally worth it to me. Even if its $75 atleast I know I wont kill my mobo.

That would be sweet do go solid 2s. :burn:

Reefa_Madness
06-15-04, 11:35 AM
Sen,

I just posted on the Micron thread asking you what you thought of this Gizzmo. Can l take your comment above as an endorsement?

This looks like something alot of us would like to get our hands on. But do you think it is worth almost as much as an entire NF7 board, for example? Granted, your board should stay healthier and you can move it from board to board, so maybe that alone makes it valuable.

I just don't know if we should be telling OCZ all over these forums, that we would pay an arm and a leg for it, then expect them to price it at the lower end of the spectrum. I bet they have spies!!!

SeanOMatic
06-15-04, 11:43 AM
OCZ has no spies on this forum, just me.

;)

Sentential
06-15-04, 11:45 AM
If its 100% safe and solderless??.....Damn right it is. Ive got a good enough mobo that I dont really care. Besides I have horrible luck.

Plus what are the odds of getting another NF7 that does 246 stock????

Reefa_Madness
06-15-04, 12:02 PM
OCZ has no spies on this forum, just me.

;)


I hope you KNOW that I threw that little comment out there just for you. I was wondering if I would get a byte.

Reefa_Madness
06-15-04, 12:08 PM
Sean,

Actually, I just posted on another thread that the best thing going for this "Gizzmo" as I've been calling it, is that you guys are making it. I think that it is safe to say that OCZ has been on a roll right know, coming up with nothing but good products.

And I really did make my comment to see if you were around. :)

mrgreenjeans
06-15-04, 12:09 PM
I want one of these too. I just rediscovered the joys of the bh-5 and have maxxed my volts and the memory is crying for more! I'll wait and see the reviews and results of others before I jump in though!

eva2000
06-15-04, 01:46 PM
this device is long overdue my BH-5 ram is eagerly awaiting :D

http://fileshosts.com/khx3200k2.jpg

trueplaya4ever8
06-15-04, 02:11 PM
is that all yours eva2000? is it all bh5 as well ?? :cry:

mrspec3
06-15-04, 02:37 PM
LOL man not that pic again :P

9mmCensor
06-15-04, 02:52 PM
here are some other images I found.
http://members.rogers.com/wong.chris/images/powerclean1.jpg
http://members.rogers.com/wong.chris/images/powerclean2.jpg

eva2000
06-15-04, 02:59 PM
LOL man not that pic again :P
hehe i'm such a tease :) :o ;)

mrspec3
06-15-04, 03:44 PM
hehe i'm such a tease :) :o ;)


rawr :attn: :drool:

wannaoc
06-15-04, 03:51 PM
Still has that pot facing the wrong way.....Thats the only thing hurting it imo, I hope they changed that in the final rev to face up.

SeanOMatic
06-15-04, 04:33 PM
We already have taken that into consideration and the final version will have the adjustment knob and molex power connectors mounted vertically to the DIMM, which will make it much more accesible and easy to use.

THunDA
06-15-04, 04:48 PM
great product.. Ill be looking into one of these when they are out.. :)

Shuzzy
06-15-04, 04:55 PM
it takes two molex connectors to use this thing? bummer.

SeanOMatic
06-15-04, 05:24 PM
Shuzzy,

OCZ will be including an adaptor that you plug your main 24-Pin ATX line into that includes two molex connectors. You won't lose any Molex connectors from your PSU.

mrspec3
06-15-04, 05:42 PM
http://www.ocztechnology.com/aboutocz/press/2004/100

flapperhead
06-15-04, 06:06 PM
Shuzzy,

OCZ will be including an adaptor that you plug your main 24-Pin ATX line into that includes two molex connectors. You won't lose any Molex connectors from your PSU.


plus a turbo button connected to a 2phase 220v 30 amp breaker(to get that little xtra from ur dimms) LOL j/k

actually im gonna get one no doubt....

mrgreenjeans
06-15-04, 06:16 PM
"plus a turbo button connected to a 2phase 220v 30 amp breaker(to get that little xtra from ur dimms) LOL j/k

actually im gonna get one no doubt.... "


Uhhh, does NewEgg have ona dose? :drool:

PerlAddict
06-15-04, 06:19 PM
Sean,

Feel free to send me a free sample copy, and I won't hold you, OCZ, or anyone else responsible for what happens to my BH5. :D

Very promising looking product. Any ballpark pricing estimates?

Silent Buddha
06-15-04, 06:41 PM
4volts here i come

Amen to that bro :attn:

bigtoe33
06-15-04, 06:49 PM
Me three!

$1.75 50k pot & 4c worth of wire will beat $100 anytime. Hope your reading this OCZ?! :cool:

Yes I am reading it and your a mile off..LOL..you forgot the custom PCB and design costs etc. Who said it was $100...not me or Sean!!

krag
06-15-04, 07:06 PM
Yes I am reading it and your a mile off..LOL..you forgot the custom PCB and design costs etc. Who said it was $100...not me or Sean!!

Actually I was reffering to the 50k V-r volt mod to get your mem up to 3.2v - 3.3v.

The actual mod for going above that isn't much more...maybe a whopping extra $2.

I assume you are familiar with the 3.3v sense line psu mod? That uses a 1k pot, 10ohm fixed resistor & a couple inches of wire.

1k pot $2.50
10 Ohm resistor $1.00
few inches of wire... 4c?

The $100 was in refference to a members previous guess. I just mentioned it in the hopes that a OCZ rep would understand that there are "WAY" cheaper methods of achieving the same thing...and again hoping that a OCZ rep would understand that an "expensive" OCZ product would be overlooked by overclockers who know how to use a soldering iron.

I sure hope $100 is a mile off...if it is then my post has served it purpose. :cool:

Here is alink to the 3.3v sense line mod. (http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=299937&highlight=measure+voltage)

trueplaya4ever8
06-15-04, 07:22 PM
ya it was my guess :D, lol

trueplaya4ever8
06-15-04, 07:33 PM
can anyone give us a guess on how long till these things are gonna ship??

deathstar13
06-15-04, 08:01 PM
Yes I am reading it and your a mile off..LOL..you forgot the custom PCB and design costs etc. Who said it was $100...not me or Sean!!this was figured into my $35-$40 guess as ive actually priced those and they arent cheap,especially for smaller runs.design costs id guess were cheap mostly as inhouse work did most of it.but the most expense comeing from testing and compatability.

btw is this 1 unit gonna control just 1 slot or all the remaining slots it didnt take over?

also any lists of ram ic's you suggest not to overvolt?
im sure you guys ran across some in testing and mabey compiled a list that would be helpfull to the oc world,will probley get done after we get our hands on it anyhow but save alot of ram rma's and burnt modules.

btw whats ocz's stance or the view of ram rma's changing when this overvolter hits the shelves? i know other ram makers are shaking in their boots waiting for the rush of rma's.

its either gonna create higher rma percentages,boost sales of boutique ram just made for this thing,boost sales due to killed/damnaged sticks or all of the above.

Sentential
06-16-04, 12:24 AM
Ahh man I cant wait. As soon as they are in stock sign me up! :drool:

mrspec3
06-16-04, 04:10 AM
Actually I was reffering to the 50k V-r volt mod to get your mem up to 3.2v - 3.3v.

The actual mod for going above that isn't much more...maybe a whopping extra $2.

I assume you are familiar with the 3.3v sense line psu mod? That uses a 1k pot, 10ohm fixed resistor & a couple inches of wire.

1k pot $2.50
10 Ohm resistor $1.00
few inches of wire... 4c?

The $100 was in refference to a members previous guess. I just mentioned it in the hopes that a OCZ rep would understand that there are "WAY" cheaper methods of achieving the same thing...and again hoping that a OCZ rep would understand that an "expensive" OCZ product would be overlooked by overclockers who know how to use a soldering iron.

I sure hope $100 is a mile off...if it is then my post has served it purpose. :cool:

Here is alink to the 3.3v sense line mod. (http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=299937&highlight=measure+voltage)

No man it's not the same. To get over 3.3V to your ram the traditional way you need to crank your 3.3V line very high which is bad for your motherboard. If say you wanted 3.9Vdimm like this thing gives you would have to run over 4V on your 3.3V line which in the end will kill your board ( I lost a P4P800 to this). So while the simple vdimm mod is much cheaper there are many more risks with it. Plus people who don't want to solder because they can't or are afraid to do it in case they have to RMA will like this booster much better.

Even someone like me who is a hard core vdimm man can use this thing. The power from it is going to be better than what you get from your motherboard when your pushing a lot of voltage. Since most motherboards aren't made to power memory at 4V or what ever we run they overheat and just can't give a stable voltage/current to the ram. If you want to try it some time vdimm mod a board to say 3.6V and then measure the voltage from a mosfet leg. Boot up memtest 86 and watch your voltage go up and down :cry:

BTW this is not a flame at all.....just wanted to post a few thoughts :beer:

Steve

krag
06-16-04, 10:16 AM
:rolleyes: Ofcourse it's not the same. It had better be better!!!! Right?? If not this thing is dead before it hits the ground!

Ofcoruse there is risk by running that kind of voltage through your poor 3.3v designed V-dimm mobo traces, caps, etc.... But all OC'ers take risks, thats the name of the game bro. :thup:

Oh man, you better belive I plan on using this thing! Heh! "Like a mad scientist!"

Jawadali
06-16-04, 12:23 PM
Another article:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/memory/display/20040616031911.html

I love how they call it a "Diagnostic Device" :).

Article stares that it will take memory up to 3.9v. Haven't seen a release date, though.

If this is inexpensive, then it'll be time to test my Mobo (Epox 8RGA+, NF2 IGP) at 2.0Vdd + 3.x Vdimm :).

deathstar13
06-16-04, 12:36 PM
trueplaya4ever8:everyone seems to think it will be around $45 area.
bigtoe:trueplaya4ever8 your very close to the price

seems to be rather reasonable and under $50 i smell a big hit in the oc community. :D

flapperhead
06-16-04, 01:26 PM
at 4volts u can use it to spot weld the case in a pinch

urbancontra
06-16-04, 02:57 PM
This is exactly what i need for my mushkin. I'll put full voltage thru and take those babies up as high as they can go!! :attn: :attn: :attn: :clap:

mrgreenjeans
06-16-04, 03:22 PM
Yeah, i just discovered the advantages of the mushkies. Mine's at 2.85 and got lots of room to go if I had the voltage. My one question is how does the circuitry stop the additional voltage from 'backwashing' into the motherboard power cicuit? And if it does, is it harmful to other components?

DayUSeX
06-16-04, 04:08 PM
wow awesome!! i cant wait to get one, hopefully it will work with my dpi533

situman
06-16-04, 04:09 PM
great i have an IC7 and dont want to mod anything, i guess i am out of luck huh?

flapperhead
06-16-04, 04:21 PM
No man it's not the same. To get over 3.3V to your ram the traditional way you need to crank your 3.3V line very high which is bad for your motherboard. If say you wanted 3.9Vdimm like this thing gives you would have to run over 4V on your 3.3V line which in the end will kill your board ( I lost a P4P800 to this). So while the simple vdimm mod is much cheaper there are many more risks with it. Plus people who don't want to solder because they can't or are afraid to do it in case they have to RMA will like this booster much better.

Even someone like me who is a hard core vdimm man can use this thing. The power from it is going to be better than what you get from your motherboard when your pushing a lot of voltage. Since most motherboards aren't made to power memory at 4V or what ever we run they overheat and just can't give a stable voltage/current to the ram. If you want to try it some time vdimm mod a board to say 3.6V and then measure the voltage from a mosfet leg. Boot up memtest 86 and watch your voltage go up and down :cry:

BTW this is not a flame at all.....just wanted to post a few thoughts :beer:

Steve

that is very true, as a harcore mb vmodder this brings vdimm increases to the masses..one of the many mods ive done to my board (vtt) i have to run a 5 watt resistor thru the vtt circuitry. how long is my mb gonna last???

deathstar13
06-16-04, 04:44 PM
great i have an IC7 and dont want to mod anything, i guess i am out of luck huh?
an ocz guy could answer that best.
but the vtt mod should be done for stability.it was answered in the original link somewhere in the first post.

still 3vdimm shouldnt hurt things too bad imo on the ic7.ill do the vtt mod myself as they dont bother me.

mcoleg
06-16-04, 04:49 PM
i wonder, when they start selling them?

deathstar13
06-16-04, 04:54 PM
i wonder, when they start selling them?
sierra_bound:FYI, I contacted OCZ about the price and availability of the DDR booster. This is the response I got: "Thank you for contacting OCZ Technology. We will make the first shipment around the first week of July to your favorite online stores. The MSRP for the device is $49.99. You can expect the street price to be less than that."

trueplaya4ever8
06-16-04, 05:04 PM
i seen that on xtreme, now i just have to decide on what memory to get for my athlon 64 :D, i need help deciding now.

mcoleg
06-16-04, 05:33 PM
thanks deathstar13 :)

flapperhead
06-16-04, 05:42 PM
i seen that on xtreme, now i just have to decide on what memory to get for my athlon 64 :D, i need help deciding now.


why dont u try out the buffalo micronu found at newegg??. its super inexpensive and once u get the ocz gizmo u can hit em with 3.3v. ill bet youll be pleased with the price and the performance ,

trueplaya4ever8
06-16-04, 06:06 PM
i think i intend to there flapper :D

Sentential
06-16-04, 06:09 PM
Looks like SVC (or sidewinderPC, eXcaliberPC, whomever!) is gonna get meh $50 in July!!:attn::attn:

mcoleg
06-16-04, 09:28 PM
ditto :P

JTanczos
06-16-04, 11:11 PM
I guess if I cant find BH5 chips im gonna get the Mushkin 222. I dont want to get a volt mod on any of my boards and since AMD is gonna be using DDR for quite awhile it sounds like a good deal.

JT

Shuzzy
06-16-04, 11:44 PM
uhh the press release is on the ocz website now, i thought someone else would have posted in this thread by now.
I hope the performance of these things makes up for looks, cause these things are brutaly ugly. lol. :)

Shuzzy
06-16-04, 11:47 PM
says that you can raise up to 3.9 volts, and that it will conform with most motherboards and ram. I am excited about this product with something like 3500eb, i think i could get some pretty good timings at 250. :drool:

Turd Furguson
06-16-04, 11:55 PM
I wished OCZ would bundle a deal where if you got a 1gig PC3700 EB you got the voltage adjuster for like half off or even free. Man they would sell oodles of memory prolly.

Shuzzy
06-17-04, 12:06 AM
eventually i can see that happening, but not off the release date. Patience. ;)

SeanOMatic
06-17-04, 02:00 PM
We will have bundle deals for memory with the VDIMM booster eventually, such as mail in rebates, etc.

Joe Camel
06-17-04, 03:11 PM
the thought of this thing just makes me :drool:...my Mushkin is just dien for more V!!

situman
06-17-04, 03:14 PM
We will have bundle deals for memory with the VDIMM booster eventually, such as mail in rebates, etc.

anyway to make it work on the IC7 without any kind of mods? ANYWAY possible?

trueplaya4ever8
06-17-04, 04:02 PM
why not just get it modded??

mrspec3
06-17-04, 04:41 PM
anyway to make it work on the IC7 without any kind of mods? ANYWAY possible?

Sell your IC7 and get a real board like the P4C800 :cool: . Just kidding. The booster will work fine....but your overclocks wont be the same as if you had the VTT mod done.

Steve

wannaoc
06-17-04, 05:00 PM
*Certain chipsets/motherboards may allow lower or higher voltage.

What does this mean I wonder? Does it ride off the motherboard stock and just multiply that? I was under the impression it drew its own power. And they still left that pot facing right into the other ram stick. I hope it fits without limiting the slots we can use...

situman
06-17-04, 05:23 PM
as long as it lets me get somewhere near 3.2v is all i need

mrspec3
06-17-04, 05:36 PM
Yah the VTT shouldn't be off by to much at that voltage :D

bigtoe33
06-17-04, 05:48 PM
If you are using an IC7 you WILL need a VTT mod. Coupled with a booster you would have an awesome setup.

trueplaya4ever8
06-17-04, 05:50 PM
you guys testing the athlon 64 version??

flapperhead
06-17-04, 05:56 PM
If you are using an IC7 you WILL need a VTT mod. Coupled with a booster you would have an awesome setup.

goodie goodie i have that mod along with 4 others.. and yes i love the smell of 3.9volts coursing thru my memory chips..

Reefa_Madness
06-17-04, 06:03 PM
flapper,

Come on now, wipe that drool off your chin. after all, you're a grown man (even if you spend your evenings playing with toys)!

Actually, I think that this thing ("V-izzmo" as I'm now calling it) has everyone salivating, so you're definitely not alone there, bud.

Reefa_Madness
06-17-04, 06:07 PM
you guys testing the athlon 64 version??


Have you ordered your Buffalo w/Micron yet? You need to go ahead and get them so that you can get your benchies done, at stock, before you hook up "V-izzmo" to your board. Plus, I want to hear how the Buffalo does. :)

mcoleg
06-17-04, 06:49 PM
got a 512 stick today. a bit puzling. one side has 0404 date and 1-2 markings, the other has 0352 and 2-2.

http://www.webuysoft.com/micron.JPG

http://www.webuysoft.com/micron1.JPG

don't have a camera, had to make images with a scanner :P, sry for bad quality.

at 2.9 on nf7s doesn't get stably in windows above 250. it posts all the way to 260, haven't tried higher yet. needs a volt mod, i guess. or m/b i'll stick it into ai7 and give it 3.2v to burn it in... anywho, won't have much time to play with it today.

sure would have helped to have that gizmo around...

trueplaya4ever8
06-17-04, 08:12 PM
Have you ordered your Buffalo w/Micron yet? You need to go ahead and get them so that you can get your benchies done, at stock, before you hook up "V-izzmo" to your board. Plus, I want to hear how the Buffalo does. :)
havent orded them yet, i may have short delay. :-/ i will find out hopefully tonite.

-=Ambush=-
06-17-04, 10:53 PM
My DFI LanParty B is in the process of being RMAed. But one I get it back it has vdimm voltage up to 3.3 so I dunno if i'm going to get this.

But I do have BH-6, so if it shows great results than 300fbs here I come. :)

Anyone know what BH-6 is rate for? I know BH-5 is rated up to 3.6v.

trueplaya4ever8
06-17-04, 11:34 PM
prett sure its the same as BH-5.

Winbond rates them up to 3.6v. Keep them cool and you should be ok.

aNTiChRisT
06-18-04, 06:52 AM
So, i get one of these fendangled devices -- what mod will i have to do to keep the vtt tracking this? I will be doing it mainly to stabalize the voltages, as im not sure i want to void the warranties on my nice £250 ram :S

~t0m

OCZAcheron
06-18-04, 07:01 PM
What does this mean I wonder? Does it ride off the motherboard stock and just multiply that? I was under the impression it drew its own power. And they still left that pot facing right into the other ram stick. I hope it fits without limiting the slots we can use...

Voltage is slightly dependent on how much load is put on the DDR Booster (and motherboard voltage regulators in general). The more load, the lower the voltage will droop when drawing current.

So for example, one DIMM draws less current than two DIMMs. Thus, there may be slight variations between differing modules, loads, and motherboards (which also introduce a load from passive components and/or parasitics).

OCZAcheron
06-18-04, 07:05 PM
My DFI LanParty B is in the process of being RMAed. But one I get it back it has vdimm voltage up to 3.3 so I dunno if i'm going to get this.

But I do have BH-6, so if it shows great results than 300fbs here I come. :)

Anyone know what BH-6 is rate for? I know BH-5 is rated up to 3.6v.


Just a quick heads up for everyone with a DFI board. You probably won't be able to use the voltage adjustment feature of the DDR Booster as DFI has designed into their boards an Overvolt Protection Circuit (I believe) that shuts the board down over a certain voltage.

Just want to give you all advance warning so you aren't disappointed when it is available for purchase.

deathstar13
06-18-04, 07:22 PM
Voltage is slightly dependent on how much load is put on the DDR Booster (and motherboard voltage regulators in general). The more load, the lower the voltage will droop when drawing current.

So for example, one DIMM draws less current than two DIMMs. Thus, there may be slight variations between differing modules, loads, and motherboards (which also introduce a load from passive components and/or parasitics).
welcome! new ocz guy? or just new here?

those poor dfi guys i keep hereing one bad thing after another dfi is doing to them.
abit didnt make it to easy on the ic7 guys either but a vtt mod isnt rough.
you guys doing any work on something that may be an addon that would take care of the vtt at the same time? dont know if its possible anyhow.

btw when the new 4800 gonna be on shelves :) some of us actually need it.

ZachM
06-18-04, 07:36 PM
Wow, just when I was seriously considering volt modding my board and 9 days before my b-day I find this!:bday: Finally I can stop insulting my BH5 from such low voltages.:p I have new respect for OCZ.:D

mcoleg
06-19-04, 12:44 AM
welcome osz :)

i second deathstar13's question, need some 4800 goodnes for my nf7s :P

Reefa_Madness
06-24-04, 10:10 PM
I guess that since no one is posting here anymore, this is old news and no one has any interest in the DDR Booster, right? Maybe just a little?

Well, just in case there is still some interest, I did run across this a few minutes ago (it is a couple of days old) right before going to bed so I thought I would just share it, for those that have not run across it yet.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/editorial/display/news25_glance_2.html

mcoleg
06-25-04, 01:11 AM
thanks man :)

maybe a little interest :P seeing that i can't mod if you pay me :)

would it have killed them though to position plugs vertically?

mrgreenjeans
06-25-04, 07:08 AM
I'll be interested as soon as available. It'd be great to sqeeze some more out of my Mushkins.

deathstar13
06-25-04, 07:43 AM
thanks man :)

maybe a little interest :P seeing that i can't mod if you pay me :)

would it have killed them though to position plugs vertically?that was the beta version.this is the final.hopefully some colors will change.

reefa im sure there plenty of intrest but the thread is long and most people already posted in it and also what else can we talk about until we get our hands on one? lol just being kinda funny here ,no sleep and a toothache make ya act wierd.
http://www.ocztechnology.com/images/products/accessories/b/DDRbooster2.jpg

mcoleg
06-25-04, 01:45 PM
ouch, sorry to hear it ds...

Reefa_Madness
06-25-04, 08:24 PM
I was just kidding about the "no interest". I ran across the short article right before going to bed and thought that it would be a nice addition to the thread, you know, for the really 'hungry for info' crowd, that's all.

sramjones
06-25-04, 10:25 PM
I love my ocz pc4200 cas 2.5,

mcoleg
06-26-04, 02:51 AM
I love my ocz pc4200 cas 2.5,

2.5, that's not too shabby :P what chips do they use?

sramjones
06-26-04, 10:28 AM
umj I am not to sure here a link thogh http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/OCZ_EL_DDR_PC-4200_Dual_Channel

deathstar13
06-26-04, 12:37 PM
I love my ocz pc4200 cas 2.5,i like banana splits with extra cherries :)

deathstar13
06-26-04, 12:39 PM
I guess that since no one is posting here anymore, this is old news and no one has any interest in the DDR Booster, right? Maybe just a little?

Well, just in case there is still some interest, I did run across this a few minutes ago (it is a couple of days old) right before going to bed so I thought I would just share it, for those that have not run across it yet.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/editorial/display/news25_glance_2.html

i didnt even see this link and missed it totaly.
good stuff :)

flapperhead
06-26-04, 01:39 PM
only prob is no one has it yet. along with the ddr600 they just keep telling me to wait..

mcoleg
06-26-04, 01:42 PM
tnx vinny

sramjones
06-26-04, 01:42 PM
I will prob buy it depending on How much it is. But i want another 512mb of pc4200 and i wouldnt have a slot for this contraption

mrgreenjeans
06-26-04, 04:18 PM
What would be awesome would be if the LCD and adjustment knob could be attached via extension cables and allow placement of the control and LCD on the front of the case (or side or whatever). You know, like a little mini "Memory Voltage Control Acessory Panel." I don't know if I'll be able to read it as is on my P4C800 because it'll be right behind the ATX connector. Does the LCD maybe swing out for a better view? :rolleyes:

Reefa_Madness
06-26-04, 04:28 PM
Sounds like a modding $$$$ idea in the making for someone with refined skills.

Reefa_Madness
06-26-04, 04:37 PM
vinny, I believe that Sean, from OCZ stated in a post on this thread that the cost (msr) will be around $50, with street price maybe just a little lower, I'm too lazy to hunt it down, so I could be wrong. The good thing is that if I am, one of the other guys will be quick to point it out and set me straight:). What are friends for, right? Also, I believe that your're right, there will be a problem with some wanting to utilize all of their slots and not being able to use this unless they give up some ram, or fork over more money for 512 sticks. It will be decision time as to which way to go. You could always run just 2 x 256 when you want to play with this, but I'm not sure how much value there is in doing that.

flapper...do you remember that ketup commercial, you know, the one that kept repeating something like "anticipaaaatiooon"? I think they're doing it to you,again.

Tatuya
06-26-04, 05:20 PM
I will definetly be purchasing this little toy. From now on I only buy OCZ :D.

elec999
06-26-04, 08:21 PM
Thats crazy whats the point of 4volts no ram can run at that. I can understand 3-3.5volt.s Life would so easy if the company you buy the ram from would tell you the best oc on that model orsomething, or the ram came with some sort of overvolt protection. Best of all if the motherboards allowed more then 2.8v.

enduro
06-28-04, 10:17 AM
Mannnn, this thing needs to come out sooner. A week is too long...... Uhhhh, need voltage. Getting bad dreams about my memory catching on fire, but I need it. Ha ha ha ha , my precious, OCZ has taken the precious. They need to get the precious into production. Golum.... I mean Enduro :shakes head: Ahhh, what's the use. It's like waiting for water to boil, it always takes longer when you're looking at it.

mrspec3
06-29-04, 04:02 PM
Thats crazy whats the point of 4volts no ram can run at that. I can understand 3-3.5volt.s Life would so easy if the company you buy the ram from would tell you the best oc on that model orsomething, or the ram came with some sort of overvolt protection. Best of all if the motherboards allowed more then 2.8v.

Because people want it. I've run ram at over 4V and so have other people. Not everyone is going to use that much voltage, but OCZ gave it to us who wanted it :D

Steve

elec999
06-29-04, 09:37 PM
Because people want it. I've run ram at over 4V and so have other people. Not everyone is going to use that much voltage, but OCZ gave it to us who wanted it :D

Steve
Sorry my statement was incorrect, I taught ram could not ram at 4volts.

mrspec3
06-30-04, 12:26 PM
Sorry my statement was incorrect, I taught ram could not ram at 4volts.

Don't worry about it. Your correct though that not all ram can run at 4V and I certainly don't think any ram can run 4V for a long time, but for benchmark runs and stuff like that it's ok as long as you cool the ram well.

Steve

ivanchu02
07-06-04, 04:57 PM
What would be awesome would be if the LCD and adjustment knob could be attached via extension cables and allow placement of the control and LCD on the front of the case (or side or whatever). You know, like a little mini "Memory Voltage Control Acessory Panel." I don't know if I'll be able to read it as is on my P4C800 because it'll be right behind the ATX connector. Does the LCD maybe swing out for a better view? :rolleyes:

i thought that a front panel would be a good idea too until i realized it would be too easy to brush into the knob and cause huge problems

mrgreenjeans
07-06-04, 05:59 PM
My wife's Acura Bose system has little push in buttons for treble, bass, etc. You push it in and it pops out, make your adjustment, and pop it back in. It could work. I think it'd be neat to be able to tweak the volts with out having to reboot. Memtest fails, crank it up a notch and restart with out having to reboot.

EDIT: When are we going to see this puppy on the market? Any ideas?

SeanOMatic
07-06-04, 08:12 PM
A front bay controller would add to the cost of the bundle significantly as well, more so than I think it would be worth. I'd also be wary of any little people (aka children) who may see a dial and subsequently destroy a memory module upon turning it...(kind of like how I broke our old turn-knob television by turning the wrong way when I was 4)

Polariz^
07-06-04, 08:17 PM
It's rather good for my mobo, because I can't adjust the Voltage for my dimms without modding the board.

Moto7451
07-06-04, 10:14 PM
I had a board that took 5v EDO DIMMS... that counts right? (joking)

This looks like a pretty cool product. Looks like we'll really see what people can do with this & BH-5.

Tatuya
07-08-04, 01:34 PM
So, anyone know the status of the OCZ DDR Booster situation? BUMP.

enduro
07-08-04, 01:50 PM
I went to the Forums on the BleedinEdge and Tony reported the testing is under way, but date is not set on release to the public.
Testing is happening now and as soon as units are available you will see a qualification list....these things do take time though.

SeanOMatic
07-08-04, 02:26 PM
We should have a mainboard compatibility guide published soon, as well.

xgman
07-09-04, 09:23 AM
Here is the MB guide:

http://www.ocztechnology.com/displaypage.php?name=DDRBoostermobocompatibility


I just recieved a booster for testing on AMD boards. Gonna test it out a little later. On most amd boards with ram slots in a horizontal position, it will be darn near impossible to see the readout, but the biggest concern is how to stay in dual ch. and fit it in. If you have a 1/2 3/4 dual ch arrangement, then it should fit no prob. If you have a 1/3 2/4 arrangement, it may be a bit more dicey depending if you can run dual in 2/4 and put the booster in 1 and hope it clears any caps that may be next to the ram slot.

enduro
07-09-04, 09:28 AM
Sweeeeet. NF7 support. Yes : pumps hand in air: Whoohoooo!!!! I'll buy the booster off of you xgman, continue the "testing" on the NF7, you know, just to make sure it's safe........ hint hint ;)

Soundster
07-09-04, 11:56 AM
hi guy,
In the compatiblility chart, I see IC7 supported.
But many of you mentioned that IC7 boards need a VTT mod for the ddr booster to work. Is it still the case?
If it is so, could you gurus direct a link to a easy to follow vtt mod?

obsolete
07-09-04, 12:27 PM
From my understanding the compatiblity list on OCZ's website just states that the booster safely raises the vdimm. If your board is on there it does not mean you will not need to do more mods in order to get it working.

Even the NF7's will need a vtt mod I believe.

I'm hoping it will work on my K7N2. Have to find out if the board tracks or not........

xgman
07-09-04, 03:37 PM
From my understanding the compatiblity list on OCZ's website just states that the booster safely raises the vdimm. If your board is on there it does not mean you will not need to do more mods in order to get it working.

Even the NF7's will need a vtt mod I believe.

I'm hoping it will work on my K7N2. Have to find out if the board tracks or not........

I think they say it will "raise" the vdim. I don't think they would guaranty "safely" as you put it. It will be at your own risk. The divice will be covered by warranrty, but if you kill any board list or not, to calrify, they will not be resonsible.

Silent Buddha
07-09-04, 10:37 PM
Yes NF7-S needs a Vtt mod...but at least this DDR Booster will give more than the 3.2V that the Vdimm mod gives :)

xgman
07-09-04, 11:31 PM
Well it works, but my board is messed up so I couldn't push the voltage yet. Here ya go:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=38564

rhino56
07-11-04, 09:02 PM
is it out yet? im not seeing it anywhere.

mrspec3
07-12-04, 05:16 AM
Hey xgman how did you get one already?

rhino56
07-12-04, 10:45 AM
i am really wondering when it will be out so i know when to start looking for it
anyone?

enduro
07-12-04, 10:45 AM
No, it's not out yet. They are releasing some of them from captivity out into the wild. I guess that they are giving a few out to test on certain boards..... I want one, pick me, pick me ;)

mcoleg
07-12-04, 03:27 PM
they probly won't. a pitty... how do they find beta testers anywho? just the friends and relatives :P ?

mrspec3
07-12-04, 05:07 PM
they probly won't. a pitty... how do they find beta testers anywho? just the friends and relatives :P ?


They pick crazy people like me who will push the new ram/stuff to the max or beyond :D

Steve

mcoleg
07-12-04, 09:42 PM
how do they know i won't? :P

in case they need another crazy to add to their collection, i am here, hehe.

enduro
07-13-04, 11:22 AM
i am here, hehe.

hahhahahahahaahahahahaahahahahahahhha
;) Now I'm crazier, although I just picked up some Hynix which doesn't like vdimm much. So I'll let you have it mcoleg.

mcoleg
07-13-04, 04:43 PM
all i want is to run my nf7s at around 280 fsb instead of misely 260... is that too much to ask? :P

adding a classical quote: HADABUDA.

HADABUDA indeed...

fldrice
07-18-04, 03:31 AM
Slot 3? Dammit no dual channel for nf7. garbage...

mrspec3
07-18-04, 04:12 AM
all i want is to run my nf7s at around 280 fsb instead of misely 260... is that too much to ask? :P

adding a classical quote: HADABUDA.

HADABUDA indeed...


LOL

NF7 is chipset limited not voltage. You aint getting 280 :cry:

mcoleg
07-18-04, 04:15 PM
we'll see... it looks like a two-parter equasion so far.

ZachM
07-19-04, 01:28 AM
Slot 3? Dammit no dual channel for nf7. garbage...

I think they got their slots mixed up. The tread at Xtremesystems clarified the situation. Slot 3 (in OCZ's eyes) is the one closest to the CPU. I think it's slot 1 in the manual. :bang head

wfarid
07-19-04, 11:21 AM
hmm, we'll be seeing a lot more fried memory sticks with that product, but im totally buying it when it comes out... when is it coming on sale??

ZachM
07-19-04, 01:10 PM
hmm, we'll be seeing a lot more fried memory sticks with that product, but im totally buying it when it comes out... when is it coming on sale??

We're all waiting. No specific date, but it is supposed to be very soon. Shh, don't jinx it. ;)

mrspec3
07-19-04, 02:23 PM
Mine is on the way. I'll let everyone know how it does when I get it :D

AudiMan
07-19-04, 02:43 PM
Mine is on the way. I'll let everyone know how it does when I get it :D


Where did you get it from? I want one.

mrspec3
07-19-04, 03:08 PM
Beta tester :D

wfarid
07-19-04, 03:23 PM
Bahh Lucky!!!

fldrice
07-19-04, 05:41 PM
I want to be a beta tester!

mcoleg
07-19-04, 06:52 PM
again, how does one go to be a beta tester with those guys? wfarid?

SeanOMatic
07-19-04, 09:26 PM
You buy me dinner!

Seriously, the best way is to catch one of our attention with your knowledge of PC's and your willingness to help people. MrSpec3 is a perfect guy to ask about this.

InvisGreenMan
07-19-04, 09:39 PM
So these will work on almost any mobo correct? Even say, my Abit NF7-S v.2.0?

No, the NF7-S does not track the VTT above the BIOS high limit, so you would have to do the VTT mod to your board. The same problem occurs with the IC7 series. This is NOT a worth-while purchace for NF7 or IC7 owners.

ZachM
07-19-04, 11:05 PM
No, the NF7-S does not track the VTT above the BIOS high limit, so you would have to do the VTT mod to your board. The same problem occurs with the IC7 series. This is NOT a worth-while purchace for NF7 or IC7 owners.

Not necessarily. The booster has a groovy LCD readout, and it allows more voltage than your 3.3v rail. With normal voltmods if you want to go above 3.3 volts you have to mod your PSU. When you do that not only does the RAM receive more than 3.3v, but so does everything else on that rail.

Silent Buddha
07-20-04, 12:47 AM
*pats Sparkle FSP530-60GNA with adjustable pots :D*

mcoleg
07-20-04, 02:17 AM
You buy me dinner!

Seriously, the best way is to catch one of our attention with your knowledge of PC's and your willingness to help people. MrSpec3 is a perfect guy to ask about this.


well, i know a lil' bit... being testing pre-release bioses for trats for a while. who's MrSpec3?

mrspec3
07-20-04, 02:33 AM
Me. you need to buy sean a lot of food and then some other stuff....he generally has a big list waiting...j/k

But for the beta test team you need lots of know how with ram and skills to overclock and test the snot out of anything. :D But the beta team is full right now so unless someone drops out most likely you got not chance. But don't call them...they will call you ;)

Steve

mcoleg
07-20-04, 04:44 AM
well, hi than mrspec3.

i see. i got some experience, methinks... if they'd need another tester it really won't be too hard to convince me to join in :P .

SeanOMatic
07-20-04, 05:27 PM
^^^

We have a lot of people who want to be on our beta team. OCZ is one of the few companies out there with a hardware beta team that is not in-house.

rhino56
07-20-04, 11:19 PM
^^^

We have a lot of people who want to be on our beta team. OCZ is one of the few companies out there with a hardware beta team that is not in-house.
when is this going to become available to purchase?

krag
07-20-04, 11:55 PM
I guess they were up for sale at excaliburpc....but they are already out of stock. :bang head

Read it and weep! (http://www.excaliberpc.com/product_info.php?products_id=3905)

rhino56
07-21-04, 12:02 AM
I guess they were up for sale at excaliburpc....but they are already out of stock. :bang head

Read it and weep! (http://www.excaliberpc.com/product_info.php?products_id=3905)
thats cool though, i know it wont be too much longer that they start showing up everywhere.

mrspec3
07-21-04, 01:16 AM
Watch newegg ;)

ZachM
07-21-04, 02:51 PM
Are you sure excalibur didn't just put it up in advance so when they get the shipment all they have to do is change the stock status? Or do you actually know someone who bought one there?

*Edit*
In stock (for now) at FrozenCPU.

ivanchu02
07-21-04, 03:54 PM
Watch newegg ;)

newegg is not getting any of the first batch

fldrice
07-21-04, 08:24 PM
$60 plus shipping and tax. Damn! I should just sell my level 1 kit and buy some better memory.

Soundster
07-22-04, 12:18 AM
$60 is too much.....money better spent vtt mod...

rhino56
07-22-04, 12:23 AM
you got to figure in the cost of a MB though, anytime you volt mod your warranty is gone and you may just zap it. this can go from MB to MB. so to me its worth the cost really. it will drop in price once they make enough of them to go around and you see them in the forums for sale.

krag
07-22-04, 01:01 AM
GeeeeezzzZ...I'm such a sucker for new hardware. I just bought it from frozencpu....yeah I felt like I just had a 38 snub nose stuck in my back but...I must have it...NOW!

Well, I have a gig of BH-5 KVR3000 and a gig of 3700EB to play around with when it comes. Well shall see if the newer micron chips can pass up the O'l BH-5 with 3.6v.

Dang man...I need a new mobo. THis one craps out on me at 230fsb but I can bench it at 250fsb....Let me just say, soldering is not one of my strong points. :eh?:

situman
07-22-04, 07:40 AM
you still havent gotten ur mobo back yet? I got mine back from ViperJohn already. He took less than 1 day to do the mod (vdd, vtt, vdimm, agp). Basically a 1 week turnaround. I am running the EBs at 3.15vdimm right now but it cant pass prime95 blend test for more than a minute. Gonna adjust the pots on my psu and give it more vdimm and see what happens. Also I didnt max out my vagp or vdd yet. so when it does happen I will see what happens.

Joe Camel
07-22-04, 07:45 AM
GeeeeezzzZ...I'm such a sucker for new hardware. I just bought it from frozencpu....yeah I felt like I just had a 38 snub nose stuck in my back but...I must have it...NOW!


LOL i know that feeling! hell, i bought 2 of them :rolleyes:

guess ill be telling ya'll how the NF7-s rev2 & BH-5 works out...
NY to Ohio...they might be here Friday :beer:

think ill test it on my 2x 256 BH-5's b4 i go and blow a gig of it...

situman
07-22-04, 08:12 AM
dont count on it. ny to ny took them 3 days not including the weekend and it was only a stupid LED for my friend's computer. he swore he will never order from them again.

Joe Camel
07-22-04, 09:36 AM
must have it...NOW!

just called and payed $13 more to have them Friday... :rolleyes:

edit: this IS and addiction!! some of us may need CPA (Computer Parts Anonymous ;) )

krag
07-22-04, 10:00 AM
you still havent gotten ur mobo back yet? I got mine back from ViperJohn already. He took less than 1 day to do the mod (vdd, vtt, vdimm, agp). Basically a 1 week turnaround. I am running the EBs at 3.15vdimm right now but it cant pass prime95 blend test for more than a minute. Gonna adjust the pots on my psu and give it more vdimm and see what happens. Also I didnt max out my vagp or vdd yet. so when it does happen I will see what happens.


UUUggggghhh, no I haven't...I actually cancelled it and have yet to recieve any money. I'm getting pretty bent right about now. If I don't hear anything form them by tonight I'm giving SSS a jingle!!!

I am gonna have ViperJohn do a Asus P4C800-E for me. THe reason is because the Asus mobo has a working Vtt.

BTW...I just bought a 3.2EE off Ebay this morning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

aldamon
07-22-04, 10:32 AM
$60 plus shipping and tax. Damn! I should just sell my level 1 kit and buy some better memory.

Agreed. I may re-sell my BH-5 before I even use it.

situman
07-22-04, 11:00 AM
damn Krag how much did you pay for that EE?

krag
07-22-04, 05:25 PM
damn Krag how much did you pay for that EE?

$400..... :bday:

situman
07-22-04, 08:50 PM
damn son, i thinkn ur forgetting the fundamentals of overclocking. it is to buy the highest performance at a value price. other than that nice find!

krag
07-22-04, 09:21 PM
damn son, i thinkn ur forgetting the fundamentals of overclocking. it is to buy the highest performance at a value price. other than that nice find!

ppsssssshhhaaawww.....value price was completly overun by
SUPERIOR FIREPOWER!

situman
07-22-04, 09:59 PM
lol point taken

wfarid
08-02-04, 01:59 AM
dude i totally get ur point behind soldering and stuff... I just bought a 23 dollar kick arse soldering iron from taiwan thats MADE to solder electric boards and stuff and I totally fried my aerogate II by putting to much solder on the board and getting it stuck in holes where it doesn't belong... All i was trying to do was change the freaking leds to red... :bang head ...


practice makes perfect, but perfection sure as hell costs a lot... :eh?:

mrspec3
08-02-04, 03:39 AM
You should practice on something old like a pci video card or a dead 486 motherboard if you have one ;)

DaWiper
08-02-04, 03:41 AM
dude i totally get ur point behind soldering and stuff... I just bought a 23 dollar kick arse soldering iron from taiwan thats MADE to solder electric boards and stuff and I totally fried my aerogate II by putting to much solder on the board and getting it stuck in holes where it doesn't belong... All i was trying to do was change the freaking leds to red... :bang head ...


practice makes perfect, but perfection sure as hell costs a lot... :eh?:

What you need is something like this:
http://www.elexp.com/sdr_7382.htm

It helps you remove solder when desoldering stuff... And it works!

enduro
08-02-04, 09:14 AM
Yeah, I have one of those that I use whenever I'm soldering. It works great and is very cheap. Makes cleanup and recovery a lot easier.