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AmbientFiction
08-18-01, 11:03 AM
Bahhh the .101 server is down again

Brett
08-18-01, 11:53 AM
Here is a Quote.

From: "James Wagner" <spamaway@q...>
Date: Sat Aug 18, 2001 4:34 pm
Subject: RE: [folding-at-home] 101 down for several hours

Yes, the outages are a tad annoying, but give the F@H... guys some credit.
They know from this message board when the servers are down and for how
long. They have to prioritize their time and limited resources (as Vijay
has said MANY times).

Even though they're not getting the science they're after when the servers
are down, it's THEIR PREROGATIVE. It's their project - they can do whatever
they want.

We don't have any place telling them how to run their project.

I'm not attacking you, kkobra@t..., I'm saying this to all the
people that get mad at F@H... when the severs crash.



Easy for him to say :) ....................................Brett......... ..

WillysNut
08-18-01, 12:03 PM
Wow...very interesting. Thanks Brett! I think what a lot of us are doing and of course should continue to mention is running multiple clients. For those who don't know, you can find information on how to setup multiple clients here (http://www.overclockers.ws/folding/tricks.html).

AmbientFiction
08-18-01, 12:10 PM
Yea but it sucks cause everytime I run a -local I still get stuck with the same server so I can't send my work back in so I have to keep installing new clients when I can't send my work off. It sucks. I am always stuck on the same server too

Flanagun
08-18-01, 01:00 PM
it'll straighten itself out in a day or so (i hope)

Ploaf
08-18-01, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by AmbientFiction
Yea but it sucks cause everytime I run a -local I still get stuck with the same server so I can't send my work back in so I have to keep installing new clients when I can't send my work off. It sucks. I am always stuck on the same server too

It would be interesting to see what everyone does to keep the work going when the servers go down.
Here's how I'm doing it and my 'puters are still folding at the moment.
I've been keeping the main folding client and two -locals on my main machine and the main client and one -local on the laptop (it's slower (read-intel :p ) and it's a laptop) and rotating them every morning, only running one at a time, without running EM. This way I have 3 fresh units to work on in case this happens but they still get returned on time. As it turns out one of my wu's managed to get sent in(diff server maybe) during this latest server problem and I got an extra one to crunch on. I have 2 1/2 workable proteins left with 2 others trying to phone home.
It only takes a total of a minute each day with just 1 or 2 machines and it keeps things flowing nicely. Couldn't imagine doing it with even a small farm though. Probably too much hassle.

AmbientFiction
08-18-01, 01:53 PM
That is the way I do mine also. I just seem to get stuck with the same server everytime though

Ebola
08-18-01, 02:12 PM
yup i cant send in my work units either.

AmbientFiction
08-18-01, 02:16 PM
You know ebola I am alsmot afraid to ask about the sig

Ebola
08-18-01, 02:36 PM
im in college. student loans. i also just bought a new car.

AmbientFiction
08-18-01, 03:01 PM
I hear that ebola I start to college monday and I am going to need a new car soon. Maybe by the end of this school year I'll be A+ certified and can get a job so I can buy a new car.

Tithulta
08-18-01, 03:06 PM
just got home from work and noticed it still hadn't got sent in(its been completed since about 7am. What happens if the 3 day time limit goes by b4 I can get mine sent in? Can't remember when this WU started :(

AmbientFiction
08-18-01, 03:16 PM
You will lose that WU but they are rarely ever down for the days at a time. With luck they should be up tonight

Ploaf
08-18-01, 05:38 PM
Originally posted by Ebola
im in college. student loans. i also just bought a new car.

ahh. you guys are just getting started. :) I'm somewhere in the 6 figure range now. :rolleyes: mortgages, car payments, trips to Europe, did I say mortgage, student loans. oh yeah. mortgage. The end is in site if I can just keep the spending down.


Tithulta- I wouldn't worry about it too much, but if you want to know when you downloaded the work you should be able to check the windows file date on the work.dat (I think that's the one). I think that that file is merely read by the client and only updates when you get a new wu. You should be fine anyway. The actual limit is 4 days and the servers aren't usually down for more than 24 hours and they've only been down this long because it's a weekend and noone is there.

Ebola
08-18-01, 07:43 PM
hopefully they get the server back up soon. ive been trying to send in my units all day.

nevermind its working again

1g_raider
08-18-01, 07:52 PM
I had a little trouble getting work earlier but no problems in the past hour.

Anyone else notice that when we have problems sending and getting work a new protien usually comes into the mix within a day?

Ploaf
08-18-01, 08:05 PM
We've been getting a lot of new proteins lately. The HVT came out last week right after the outage didn't it? Maybe we will get something new.

Paul -The Mad Hatter
08-19-01, 01:27 AM
I wonder why the servers crash all the time?..... ahh, intel machines :D

Allan Nielsen
08-19-01, 04:19 AM
Originally posted by Brett
Here is a Quote.

From: "James Wagner" <spamaway@q...>
Date: Sat Aug 18, 2001 4:34 pm
Subject: RE: [folding-at-home] 101 down for several hours

Yes, the outages are a tad annoying, but give the F@H... guys some credit.
They know from this message board when the servers are down and for how
long. They have to prioritize their time and limited resources (as Vijay
has said MANY times).

Even though they're not getting the science they're after when the servers
are down, it's THEIR PREROGATIVE. It's their project - they can do whatever
they want.

We don't have any place telling them how to run their project.

I'm not attacking you, kkobra@t..., I'm saying this to all the
people that get mad at F@H... when the severs crash.



Easy for him to say :) ....................................Brett......... ..

The minute we joined this project it also became OUR project, not just THEIR project!!! I think we are entitled to complain a bit, but lets keep it in here.

Fold on... if you have work units! :)

LimeyGreg
08-19-01, 07:40 PM
Here we go AGAIN ! ! ! Sunday @ 5:50pm pacific time and the sever is not responding.

Their server's been up and down more than Bill Clintons' pants during his 8yr term in office.

I have another bbalpha wu and can't send it - .101 is not responding, I'm really getting weary seeing this. I assume this project really isn't that important if they can't keep their server up ~ maybe it's time to switch to another "humanitarian" project, one where the folks running it can keep their server up for more than the crew running Folding@Home.

I'm ready to pull the plug and save the electricity ~ which now costs me more thanks to the so call California Energy Crisis.

AmbientFiction
08-19-01, 07:54 PM
Originally posted by LimeyGreg
Here we go AGAIN ! ! ! Sunday @ 5:50pm pacific time and the sever is not responding.

Their server's been up and down more than Bill Clintons' pants during his 8yr term in office.

I have another bbalpha wu and can't send it - .101 is not responding, I'm really getting weary seeing this. I assume this project really isn't that important if they can't keep their server up ~ maybe it's time to switch to another "humanitarian" project, one where the folks running it can keep their server up for more than the crew running Folding@Home.

I'm ready to pull the plug and save the electricity ~ which now costs me more thanks to the so call California Energy Crisis.

Greg everytime the server goes down we seem to get a new WU. Just install more clients as above stated
C:\program files\Folding at home
C:\program files\Folding at home2
and then just go to thee shortcuts and run them with a -local switch like this:
http://forums.overclockers.ws/vb/attachment.php?s=&postid=203340

KaHNZa
08-19-01, 08:04 PM
Originally posted by LimeyGreg
maybe it's time to switch to another "humanitarian" project, one where the folks running it can keep their server up for more than the crew running Folding@Home.

I'm ready to pull the plug and save the electricity ~ which now costs me more thanks to the so call California Energy Crisis.

There is a great project from the same people that bring us folding@home. Its called Genome@Home (http://gah.stanford.edu) . The servers never go down. And if they ever do the client has a built in feature that generates its own work! No more worrying about the servers. It would be great if we could do that. I personally like Genome@Home better. :rolleyes:

The-Last-Kehoe
08-19-01, 08:52 PM
we are not switching to genome@home

KaHNZa
08-19-01, 10:09 PM
Originally posted by The-Last-Kehoe
we are not switching to genome@home

I have done lots of Genome in the past. I'm tellin' ya, its a lot less headaches and server downtime. I have serious;y considered quitting folding altogether. But I would hate to have to leave these forums for good. Thats why I suggested Genome@home. MUCH easier to use and manage. :cool:

1g_raider
08-19-01, 10:26 PM
If I had a DSL or Cable connection I wouldn't care less if the server was up or down but when you are dealing with a dial-up and your phone line is constantly being used by the auto dialer trying to send in a w/u it is a little frustrating.

I haven’t had any problems getting or sending all day today. I guess I'm just lucky. Sorry to hear you guys are.

I agree with Allen in that I put in enough time and have cranked out enough w/u's for the project that I feel I have a right to complain if I want. The reality is that all the complaining in the world isn't going to get the server back up so all you can do is sit back and relax.

Lets just do what we can and get this team to the top while we help cure a few diseases along the way.

Stanman
08-19-01, 11:00 PM
I just noticed that one machine had been trying for the eighth time to send work and the second client was up to 90, so I installed a third one and it GOT work with no problem. Cool. "Wot the heck" It can send it some other time for all I care. :)

Paul -The Mad Hatter
08-19-01, 11:42 PM
Originally posted by LimeyGreg

Their server's been up and down more than Bill Clintons' pants during his 8yr term in office.
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LMAO!

Stanman
08-20-01, 07:30 AM
Just keep installing more clients, as long as you don't have to worry about the time limit. (Intel users) :p