View Full Version : Help!! 1.33 althlon idling @ 60 C!!
I have a Asus A7A266 with a 1.33 Ghz Althlon and according to PC probe, the cpu idles at 60 C and mother board is at 28 C. I have a volcano 2 HSF. Also, i only have 1 extra fan that is sucking air in from the front. There is also a fan sucking air out in the power supply. When i take off the sides of the case, I get 52 C idle. What can I do to lower my temperatures? Any help would be apprieciated.
Hugo 59
08-19-01, 04:36 AM
Man thats really hot. I would try not to run it till you get this figured out. First thing I would do is reseat the hsf and make sure that is properly seated. Keep the side off until you can get some more case fans and get some air circulating in your case. Are you using artic silver? A very thin layer on the core would help if your not.
The motherboard probes are known to be as much as 10C off so you could be running at 70C at idle.
You might want to put a house fan blowing into your open case to help in the meantime.
Hope this helps a little.
Good Luck
Hugo 59
08-19-01, 04:37 AM
Oh and by the way welcome to the forums!
Regardless of what temperature monitoring scheme you are using, if you see an 8 degree improvement running with the cover off then you need to improve you through-case ventilation airflow.
Things you can do:
If your case has a knockout for another fan, typically on the rear, put another fan in, exhausting air out.
Use higher airflow fans on both knockouts.
Make sure both fans have as little restriction to airflow as possible. This means removing the stamped-in-the-case grills and improving the air passageway in the front escutcheon. This is assuming you are using either a mid of full size tower.
If the wiring inside your case is a "birds nest", tidy them up with cable ties and/or wrap them to minimize their surface area.
Add a "Blow Hole" in the case immediately above your HSF to provide a short passage for cooler air to reach it.
Ideally, your case temp should only be a degree or two above the room air temp. This allows the HSF to do its job the best. Your reward for this effort is usually discovering that your HSF could be better and you wind up getting a new one :D
Hoot
CSaddict
08-19-01, 07:02 PM
Hoot as usual is absolutely correct. Remember getting air in and back out of the case will remove the most heat.
ok, i just installed another fan in the back part of the case which sucks heat out of the case. I put a 92 mm fan in the back part, and a 80 mm fan in the front. The motherboard temp is now 22 C but the CPU temp is still pretty high at 53 C idle... I have read posts on this forum that my motherboard, the Asus A7A266 has a problem reporting the correct temperatures, is this correct? I have tried to get the best air flow in my case by tying all the wires together. Do you guys think i might have put the heat sink on wrong? What are temperatures are others getting with the Asus A7A266?
the thermistors that measure mobo temps are not calibrated. they are just for reference. They measure the air behind your cpu, not really the cpu either. so you can get false results by blowing big fans under the socket.
Expect temps to read higher than other people's unless someone fixes the bios so it is comparable, but asus has not done that this far. just go by how stable your system is!
Originally posted by ace008
I have a Asus A7A266 with a 1.33 Ghz Althlon and according to PC probe, the cpu idles at 60 C and mother board is at 28 C. I have a volcano 2 HSF. Also, i only have 1 extra fan that is sucking air in from the front. There is also a fan sucking air out in the power supply. When i take off the sides of the case, I get 52 C idle. What can I do to lower my temperatures? Any help would be apprieciated.
What is the temp in the bios monitor??
Asusprobe is known to show 10c to much so might be running at 50c idle but its still a bit high i think.
Try getting motherboard monitor5 and u will get the right temp.
Atleast i got more accurat readings on my asus a7v133, exactly 10c less.
As i said check ur temp in bios if its different then the asusprobe shows wrong temp
I got the opposite results with mbm5, but what I did do was check the temp in the bios and adjusted the mbm5 to read the same. A buddy of mine had that very same board with a 1.4 athlon, he too ran hotter than hell. He finally ended up going out and getting a new gigabyte board. I have an asus A7V133, and mbm5 show 10 degrees higher, until I adjusted it. Also besure to scrap that junk off of your heatsink and core before you add artic silver. You should see a big difference after adding that and increasing your case's air flow, I did anyway. I also taped up all the other vent holes in my case, in hopes to promote airflow from the bottom (in) to the rear above the cpu (out). It seemed to work. So far with all that I have shed ten degrees off of my cpu.
After my recent adventure with my MSI K7T Turbo MB, I found out that the MB might not be very accurate when supplying the Vcore voltage. My MB was giving out 1.85V when the Vcore was set to 1.75V. After I forced it to 1.65V, which resulted in 1.75V actual Vcore, I got major drop from 60C@full load to 52C@full load and idle went down to 45C from some 54C.
So check the Vcore from the BIOS "PC health monitor" menu, and see if yer MB feeds good Vcore voltage.
I am shocked that no one has suggested that he check his HSF install. :D
Take your HSF off and make sure you are making good contact with the die. The thermal compound (goo as I like to call it) should leave a mark on the bottom of your HSF, the size of the die. But most important is that you install the HSF correctly (flat/leveled). ;)
I have an A7A 266 w\T-Bird 1.2 gig. My idle temps no matter what I do is 60C! I've been playing around with it for about 2 months now trying to get them to drop. Tried watercooling, Cheap cooler master HSF, Now I have an SK-6. And I get right around the same temps with all of them. I've pretty well given up on it. As far as case cooling goes. I've got two 80mm fans in the front for intake, and one 80mm fan in back for exhaust along with the PSU exhausting air as well. system temp hovers around 27C on average.
One thing I do have problems with it my voltage is constantly running high. I have it set to 1.75 but it show's 1.808 to 1.824 all the time. That's causing the temps to be higher I'm assuming as well as the probe just sucks on this board. I'm pretty well giving up on the temps as long as the system is stable which it is. Never crash's or get any errors. But still it's a little annoying at times. Especially coming from running intel chips for years before. Use to the system running just over ambient temps.
Originally posted by CSaddict
Hoot as usual is absolutely correct. Remember getting air in and back out of the case will remove the most heat.
A 'pseudo-Hoot Chute' could do just as well. Just cut out a hole in the side panel just above the CPU and fit a 120mm or a couple of 80mm fans and remove all PCI slot covers. This way, fresh cool air will definitely reach the CPU first. Ducting can serve to enhance the cooling from this. The in-and-out-at-the-front-and-back config is the most convienient without having to cut out holes here and there.
Originally posted by G T i
I am shocked that no one has suggested that he check his HSF install. :D
Take your HSF off and make sure you are making good contact with the die. The thermal compound (goo as I like to call it) should leave a mark on the bottom of your HSF, the size of the die. But most important is that you install the HSF correctly (flat/leveled). ;)
....or recommended that he should immediately switch to Arctic Silver 2 :D
I went into my bios and checked the Vcore voltage and it says 1.824 V. The lowestest setting i have in the bios is 1.75 V which i set it to. Is there a way i can make the voltage lower?
There seems to be atleast one step lower voltage option set by jumpers. See:
http://www.asus.com.tw/products/motherboard/ddr266/a7v266/jumper.html
I went to the jumper setting website, but this jumper setting is for the A7V266, and i have the A7A266.
AW, my bad. Good thing U checked. Yer MB doesnt seem to have this setting. From this point, I dont know if anything else but hacking can work.
U could try to mail them for tech support...
joshiieeii
08-23-01, 08:58 AM
ACE, just wanted to let you know I have this same CPU, and it just runs HOT. I have the Abit KG7-raid board and the sensor reports my CPU at idle is about 50C (Haven't put my water cooling in effect yet, Open Case BTW). I am using a standard AMD HS w/ Arctic Silver II.
Mr.Lansing
08-23-01, 10:41 AM
Sometimes the MBM5 also reports a higher temp
i used Sandra 2001 to check it and it was 8C lower
Liquidsky
08-23-01, 05:14 PM
You should probably borrow another board from someone and test it cause it might be the board or then again the cpu itself. It's weird but my temps on a duron 900 not overclocked are 48C idle and 52 full load. I mean this isn't normal. I'm thinking that my thermistor is playing tricks on me but i don't think it is cause the heatsink is really hot which is a good sign of thermal transfer. The Alpha PAL6035 is awesome. I'm using an MSI K7T Turbo. I really don't know what to do. Is it really that hot I'll probably never know.
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