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macc53
06-25-04, 06:03 PM
Ok I have been out of the computer world for a while and want to build a new cruncher i am tired of 9 wu a day. i want to add about 15-20 more.

So what should I look at? intel or amd?

Gary
Vento1
06-25-04, 06:15 PM
From what i have read on the forums & my own experience intel with a HT enabled chip, if you can cool it well a presscot is very good. I have a 2.8e@3.1 doing an average of 18 wu a day.
macc53
06-25-04, 07:01 PM
ok what are the different versions of the P4 i see a different letter with the speed what do they all mean?

Gary
hallen
06-25-04, 07:38 PM
Newegg sells a retail 2.8E refurb for $149.00

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-116-170R&type=Refurbish

They are out of stock right now but have been available for the last 3 weeks.

I got a refurb OEM 2.8E there for $144. and it works great. With HyperThreading and halfway decent PC3200 you will get at least 16 wu's a day. I'm trying for 24 wu's in the next 24 hours as I loaded it up with 1.00AR and above wu's.

Newegg does have the 3.0E refurb in stock for $174.

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-116-171R&type=Refurbish

Hyperthreading is the way to go.

Harvey

edit: I think this is the memory I'm using. Infineon chips.

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=306857

Ran 2.5-3-3-6 @ 219MHz

now running 3-4-4-8 @ 234MHz.
hallen
06-25-04, 07:45 PM
ok what are the different versions of the P4 i see a different letter with the speed what do they all mean?

Gary

All the Prescotts have 1mb cache. Northwoods 512k.

Not sure of the letters but 800MHz FSB seems to be the Hyperthreading variety for both.
macc53
06-25-04, 08:01 PM
ok here is the challenge i will have about a 1000 to spend build a system or two that will do atleast 15 wu a day(or what ever bionc does)

does not have to have a big hard drive since i will not be using it for anything but crunching. no case i guess just MB,CPU,RAM,HD,PS,Vidio

Gary
hallen
06-25-04, 08:21 PM
ok here is the challenge i will have about a 1000 to spend build a system or two that will do atleast 15 wu a day(or what ever bionc does)

does not have to have a big hard drive since i will not be using it for anything but crunching. no case i guess just MB,CPU,RAM,HD,PS,Vidio

Gary

Here is a Buy it Now on eBay for Asus P4C800-E Deluxe for $139.99 plus $14.00 s&h.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=44943&item=3488972382&rd=1

It's a great board. I think anyone who has one will agree.

So that leaves $844.01 left.

edit:

Seller has more than one. Buy it Now is gone for this auction

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=44943&item=3489178376

But if you plan to build two, seller might have more.

edit:

The first auction is for a P4C800 Deluxe. The last is for P4C800-E Deluxe.
Don't know what the difference is but with the Prescott I would suspect the latest board would be more capable of handling it.
TC
06-25-04, 09:15 PM
Just to expand - C is 800FSB with HT, B is 533FSB without HT, E is prescott with 1MB cache 800FSB and HT. There is also an A prescott without HT but still having the 1MB cache - not to be confused with the much older A chips with 400FSB no HT. Prescotts work a little better mainly due to the extra cache, and the HT has been tweaked. You can still do very well with an overclocked C chip. Many 2.4C's will do 3.3-3.4 with good cooling and good ram will let you run a 1:1 ratio.
Dk Jedi Allianc
06-26-04, 12:28 AM
I think you can list P4 as this:

P4A - 400 mhz
P4b - 533 mhz only 3.06 ghz support HT (the first chip with HT)
P4c - 800 mhz all have HT
P4e - 800 mhz Prescott core (1 MB)

have I left any out???
hallen
06-26-04, 02:01 PM
24 hours Prescott Hyper Threading
ggo
06-27-04, 04:57 AM
sweetness, im very impressed by the 2.8e, nevermind all the presshot jokes. just needs some love :P
hallen
07-01-04, 05:22 PM
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