AMD Duron 1.0GHz Out Officially!

[AtomicGuY]

ah, the AMD Duron 1.0GHz processor is here, head over to www.AMD.com to get it in your face. :)

[AtomicGuY]

Pic below...

[thefly]

Nice. I hear that the duron 1 gig has a morgan core.

How do you like the kg7 you are runing?

What did you pay for it if i may be so rude.

:)

[Bender]

Theflycore why do you think the 1 G duron has a morgan core? I see no evidence on AMDs website. I would love to try one out if this is true.

[AtomicGuY]

it was a test board, I didnt have to pay anything besides shiping fees. In return, Abit let me keep the board. Had it for two months now and it works great!

[thefly]

http://www.geek.com/procspec/amd/morgan.htm


Folgendes haben wir von AMD in der Zukunft zu erwarten:

Athlon 1.4GHz (Thunderbird Core) im Juni 2001
Athlon 4 (Palomino Core) 1.3GHz (200MHz FSB), 1.33GHz (266MHz FSB), 1.4GHz (266MHz FSB), 1.53GHz (266MHz FSB) August/September 2001
Athlon 4 (Palomino Core) 1.6GHz (266MHz FSB) Oktober/November 2001
Athlon 4 (Palomino Core) 1.73GHz (266MHz FSB) Dezember 2001
Athlon (Thoroughbred Core 0.13µ ) Februar/März 2002
Im dritten Quartal 2002 führt AMD den neuen, in 0.13µ gefertigten Athlon mit dem "Barton" Core ein
Duron (Spitfire Core) 950MHz Juni 2001
Duron (Spitfire Core) 1 GHz Juli/August 2001
Duron (Morgan Core) 950 MHz und 1 GHz August/September

Duron (Morgan Core) 1.1 GHz Dezember 2001/Januar 2002
Duron (Morgan Core) 1.2 GHz Februar 2002
Im zweiten Quartal 2002 kommen die ersten Duron's die in 0.13µ gefertigt werden und auf den "Appaloosa" Core basieren.

http://www.a1-electronics.co.uk/AMD_Section/CPUs/AMD_RoadmapApr01.html

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/3/21137.html

I've read that the 950 and 1 gig have morgan cores. Could be wrong....

[klosters64a]

Have a look at OCer's.com's front page today(Aug 19). Please see "Palomino coming sooner than later in September?"
A link in the article takes you to Mike the Inquirer's site, in the UK.

A link in Mike's article takes you to a German site that says that the 1 Gig Duron with a Morgan core is being released in Germany today.

Can someone please set me straight on the Morgan/Duron and Palomino/T-Bird sitch? If I remember right, the Palomino core draws 10~13% less current than the present T-Bird does ergo, it produces less heat. I extrapolate that the Morgan core provides similar, if not quite as much benefit.

What a dilemma. The 1 Gig Morgan-cored Duron and the 1 Gig 266 Mhz T-Bird will allegedly cost exactly the same! While the T-Bird ouperforms the new Duron(unless there's an increase in L1 and or L2 cache size in the Morgan-cored Duron--which I doubt) the 1 Gig Duron has a small yet real advantage in current suckage and heat production. Arrgh.

I shouldn't beatch. These processors provide killer performance for very little money!!

[wild_andy_c]

The current 1Ghz part is a Spitfire. This is a good thing for a lot of people who own motherboards which just won't handle it. Did you know that good boards such as the A7V may struggle with regulation on a Morgan.

[klosters64a]

Ach. Sehr Interesante! I don't know the fine print about the Morgan/Palomino cores. As Intel is in love with demanding new chipsets for every "1 and a half" new CPU's it releases(it used to be every new CPU they released--for a while, at any rate), I have to grant AMD the same leeway now and again.

Why not take the time to peruse OCer's.com's aforementioned Aug 19th front page article? If you're in a hurry, have a look at www.theinquirer.net/20080102.htm . According to the link at the German site, the Morgan core is in the new 1 gig Duron. At least in Germany, according to www.AMD.de .

Weyell, I can't find a reference to www.chip.de 's news at AMD Germany. My German sure ain't what it used to be, so I can't say for certain.

[!-=sky=-!]

Originally posted by wild_andy_c
The current 1Ghz part is a Spitfire. This is a good thing for a lot of people who own motherboards which just won't handle it. Did you know that good boards such as the A7V may struggle with regulation on a Morgan.

so do you mean that if i get a duron with morgan core i would have to get a new motherboard? since i m using the a7v now?

[GuNRocK]

hey andy is this true...that 1ghz are spitfire's why would ppl with Asus A7V have problems? is the chip realy that much differnt? i got one of the first and i have pushed it to the max my current setup can handle with a 250psu and no 133fsb support... i just got a 1ghz tbird 266 2 weeks back...and i am looking for some new stuff to get befour christmas...hopefully 1.1 and 1.13 or 1.15Ghz what ever is next comes out...so 1ghz with the new core will be dirt cheep..and i can build another comp.

[AtomicGuY]

1GHz is officially a Morgan!!!!


And yes you can still use it on your old motherboard as long as you can handle .4 volts lower on your motherboard.

[AtomicGuY]

here is the picture of firing squad's morgan they reviewed,

[wild_andy_c]

Originally posted by AtomicGuY
1GHz is officially a Morgan!!!!


And yes you can still use it on your old motherboard as long as you can handle .4 volts lower on your motherboard.


It's not just about voltage but also current and voltage controllers like the CS5323 on the A7V cannot deliver sufficient current at the lower voltage. Controllers such as the CS5303 as used on some KT7's and 8KTA3's are far better equipped to deal with such power requirements.

It is not as simple as a motherboard manufacturer just dropping down the voltage and having it work !!

Do ASUS state Morgan compatibility on A7V ?

[AtomicGuY]

no but Thresh (Firing Squad) has Morgan equiped on A7V133 in the review I believe. And it tests 100%

[wild_andy_c]

If the voltage controller on that A7V133 was the CS5322 then this is good news for everybody - everyone will be able to go Morgan. I remember a good while back that there was a lot of doubt about it and Ed did a great article about three phase (the CS5322 is 2 phase and very poor compared to the CS5303).

[thefly]

Motherboard Asus A7V, BIOS 1008, VIA KT133 Chipset, VIA Driver 4in1 4.32v


This is one of the boards that tom's hardware has reviewed with the duron/morgon chip.

There is an article today about it.

[wild_andy_c]

...... And moreover, the advent of a CPU that can drain less power from a PC is great news with so many people at present having problems with power supplies on DDR boards. I hope that this resolves a few problems for a few people with dodgy power supplies and what not.

And when Palomino finally does rear its lovely head, people will be able to run 1.6Ghz with a 300W supply and no worries (no one start arguing that they already do run 1.6Ghz with a 300W supply - I'm trying to redress some peoples current problems at 1.33Ghz or more on certain DDR boards)

[GuNRocK]

Hopefully this answers your questions on A7V!

Duron Now With 'Morgan'-Core, Continued

The socket remains the same, but you can't just plug the new Duron in your old SocketA motherboard, because 'Morgan' needs to be recognized by the BIOS and that only works after you flashed the very latest BIOS-update onto the board. We tried it here with a good old Asus A7V rev. 1.02. Using an 'old' Duron or Athlon processor we flashed the latest BIOS (rev. 1008) on the A7V, then we plugged in the new Duron and the board booted without any problems. Windows reported SSE-support, which is the definite sign that the BIOS recognizes and supports 'Morgan' properly.


i am just hopeing it will work with my older version 1.01 hehe

UPDATE:The new core design reduces the heat production of the new Duron and the thermal diode can safe its life, even though the implementation is still not as fool proof as Intel's.

hopefully this will help us if our fans die lol:D