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orionnt
06-30-04, 10:04 AM
Im going to building a new PC later on this year and i plan on water cooling. Its going to ahve and AMD64 and a X800 Pro in it that will be water cooled. Naturally this is going to generate alot of heat.

The corner here my desk is is in like acuby hol almost in my room, it doesnt get that good of airflow. Right now in my current system i get ambient case temps of about 85-90 F. I dont think that is too bad, but i would like to kee the case and components as cool as possible in the new PC.

I know that putting the entire PC in a fridge most likely wont work because it cant really handle having a heat source, but waht if you had a large resevoir in the fridge? M theory is after the water is pumped through the CPU and GPU, then cooled in the radiator, it will flow into the resevoir in the fridge. This would help cool the water fairly well, and in theory drop it down below the ambient room temperature. Once it is pulled out of the resevoir and pumped back through the system the water should be cooler than the ambient room temperature allowing for a beter cooling system.

Has any one ever tried this? or does anyone tihnk it will work?

The Loop would look something like:
Hydor L35 Pump -> DD RBX -> DD Maze4 GPU -> DD Dual 120mm Heatercore -> Res (in Fridge) -> Hydor L35 Pump

clocker2
06-30-04, 10:18 AM
please take this response with a grain of salt....

What you propose has been attempted many times.
My understanding is that it doesn't work very well.
Regular refridgerators are not designed to cool things with a constant heat source.
They are good at taking something and lowering it's temp and then holding it there, but faced with a constant input of heat they are overworked and fail.

Furthermore, the water doesn't spend enough time in the refridgerated reservoir to become cold, kind of like waving a hot can of Coke through your freezer and expecting it to be cold.

I could be wrong though.
Lord knows, it wouldn't be the first time.

fafnir
06-30-04, 07:52 PM
no, bad, go get a "water chiller" instead, does what you're thinking about but actually works

look for em' on ebay or something

http://www.barrytechsales.com/downloads/ko_waterchiller.pdf

like that thing but plastic and has 1/2 fittings or something

look around in aquarium land, e.g. go and shop for some fish and tell em' about your pet marlins or something

fafnir
06-30-04, 07:54 PM
or go and tear apart one of them old drinking fountains or something

http://www.water-cooling.com/articles/chiller/chiller.php

use two or a "new" drinking fountain if room temps are no good

fafnir
06-30-04, 08:01 PM
and here too:

http://aquariumpros.com/aquaprostore/CH.shtml

the first ones, and also the "delta star" series but not the "cyclone" series or anything that has a "drop in" probe or coil unit

the delta star series have almost everything titanium, which prevents corrosion, while the vanillas has stainless steel

if all of these are too expensive, go for the "via cool chiller" at the end of the page, should be just over 100usd from ebay last i checked

look around and prepare to ebay A LOT

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orionnt
07-02-04, 10:19 AM
Yea, i was in Target yesterday and saw a Thermoelectric refrigerator, its essentially a giant peltier unit in the form of a fridge. A fridge like that would work too i would imagine.

thorilan
07-03-04, 03:59 AM
its better to put the rad in the fridge as it is more important

Michael_antoi
07-03-04, 10:13 AM
so would putting a rad in a fridge work or is what 'clocker2' (2nd post) true?

thorilan
07-03-04, 10:29 AM
putting the rad in the fridge increases the Deltat and does the most for performance

BlueMan
07-04-04, 12:04 PM
do you get condensation in this setup? would you have to insulate everything?

Rpkole
07-04-04, 02:37 PM
this has ben done before here is a pic from Quakecon 2003 http://www.quakeconpics.com/2003/day2/qc2k3.ym.2003-08-15.794.case-mods--external-watercooling-with-fridge.jpg not sure how well it worked

squeakygeek
07-05-04, 12:03 PM
Yea, i was in Target yesterday and saw a Thermoelectric refrigerator, its essentially a giant peltier unit in the form of a fridge. A fridge like that would work too i would imagine.

no no no no no

its better to put the rad in the fridge as it is more important

Yes, I guess that would be "better", but it still wouldn't work.

zabomb4163
07-06-04, 04:25 AM
they are not made for the heatload you are expecting...