View Full Version : Fry a P166...is it possible?
link1305
07-03-04, 07:54 PM
I recieved a P166 yesterday, and today I decided to fix it up a bit and sell it for some cash, so I took everything out and cleaned it. When I put the mobo back in I took a look at the jumpers and was wondering how far I could overclock it....so I changed the clock speed to 66, and the multiplier to 3.0x and booted up. Everything came up like normal, and it reported the CPU speed around 230Mhz (or near it). I was happy and surprised that it actually worked. So after being on for about 10 seconds I shut it down and connected the keyboard. I booted up again and went into the BIOS to change some stuff around...then it just froze :(
It was on for about a minute when that happened...I shut it down immediatly, and now when I turn the power button on fans start up and the keyboard lights flash quickly, but thats all....no beeps even. I took the proc out and reseated...it didn't even feel that hot.
I changed the jumpers back to their original positions, but still no go :bang head
Stupid me, I never even booted it before overclocking it to check stuff out...guess I was too greedy for speed.
Xenocide
07-03-04, 07:58 PM
why couldn't you fry it...? its still a cpu...
you probabbly did kill it
KOXC2003
07-03-04, 08:00 PM
Well not sure what "speed" your going to get out of a P166 anyways. Try removing the motherboard battery, put it back in and try and boot again.
you where going to sell it? hell what you gonna get for it? 5 dollars if your lucky?
Foxie3a
07-03-04, 08:13 PM
Your expecting to make a little money off of it? A P1? :/
link1305
07-03-04, 08:19 PM
Thanks for your WONDERFUL opinions, but I asked what could be wrong, not how much you guys would pay for it :rolleyes:
link1305
07-03-04, 08:53 PM
why couldn't you fry it...? its still a cpu...
you probabbly did kill it
The reason I thought I couldn't was it I don't think P1's get *that* hot, and it didn't feel like it was that hot when I touched it.
well did u change the vcore? even if it wasnt that hot to many volts could kill it + its old age
CPL.Luke
07-03-04, 09:21 PM
yeah p1's came out ten years ago and thats also the expected liftime of one of these things so it was probably pretty fragile.
Has it been run for the past couple of years by someone else?
sandman001
07-03-04, 09:29 PM
yeah p1's came out ten years ago and thats also the expected liftime of one of these things so it was probably pretty fragile.
Has it been run for the past couple of years by someone else?
Actually if it ran in good conditions, it'd be more like 20-25 years.
Actually if it ran in good conditions, it'd be more like 20-25 years.
where do you get these numbers?
they havent even exsisted for 20 years and saying they could last that long is not factual at all...while i dont doubt they could, there is no way to prove it.
KOXC2003
07-04-04, 04:31 PM
Intel expects their CPUs to run 15-20 years, of course this can't be proven yet.
Mr_Obvious
07-04-04, 08:06 PM
At the rate things are moving, 3.4gig will be comparable to that 166 P1. in 10 to 15 years. I have a couple 166 p1's also some cyrix and ibm cpu's. If you want them.
I also have an Amstrad complete desktop system with a 640khz cpu (thats right, Khz) and 2 -5-1/4 floppys, and no hard drive whatsoever. The O/S is on one floppy and you save on the second. Killer system in its day.
yeah p1's came out ten years ago and thats also the expected liftime of one of these things so it was probably pretty fragile.
Actually if it ran in good conditions, it'd be more like 20-25 years.
Intel expects their CPUs to run 15-20 years, of course this can't be proven yet.
Where are you guys getting this data? I once stumbled on some MTBF and FIT data from Intel's website (they've taken it down, but it's still on the Wayback machine), and it didn't suggest lifespans anywhere CLOSE to those numbers. I'm emailing Intel about this, but just wanted to know where you guys found those numbers before I post back my own and Intel's responses :)
JigPu
CPL.Luke
07-05-04, 02:35 PM
I got mine on this forum while I was researching overvolting. its in some of the stickies that it should last 10 years stock voltage stock everything.
I was just thinking though an older cpu might last longer because of the larger circuitry couldn't it? I mean nasa runs 486's in sattleites and such because of their durability to radiation.
About the not getting money for those...
I sell older computers such as that all the time. Not to say they're all P1s, but still. Most are in the p2 233MHz range. All you have to do is search your local thrift/goodwill store for monitors, old keyboards, etc... I have 5 15 inch monitors sitting here that are absolutely fine, all for $5. Most of the PCs I get are between $5 and $30. I can slap a monitor with it, keyboard, mouse. Put it in my local newspaper for $100 and sell it in no more than two days. This is all, of course, depending on your location. Where I live people buy these things up like hotcakes. I suppose it couldn't hurt to try? I make at least $50 everytime I sell one, and doing it in your spare time can really get you some extra cash.
Where are you guys getting this data? I once stumbled on some MTBF and FIT data from Intel's website (they've taken it down, but it's still on the Wayback machine), and it didn't suggest lifespans anywhere CLOSE to those numbers. I'm emailing Intel about this, but just wanted to know where you guys found those numbers before I post back my own and Intel's responses :)
JigPu
thats exactly wut i was saying..
i wonder if intel will bother to reply....
GO JigPu!
:attn:
Jiggahurtz
07-05-04, 06:27 PM
It probably died of old age. Either that or the hsf on there couldn't handle a whopping 230mhz and it cooked real damn quick. But I am leaning toward old age causing the death of that computer.
aNTiChRisT
07-05-04, 06:46 PM
Actually, imo 3.0ghz CPUs will be the p166's in 5 years, not 10-15 years.
15 years and we are looking at a whole new technology, and i dont even think overclocking will last, which is a damn shame.
I may well be proven wrong, but this is where my thought drifts when thinking about the direction of PC's, not helped by Intels non-overclockable new chipsets, and if we change to something like optical CPUs -- how do you over"clock" light? ;P
I'm just enjoying it whilst i can =]
~t0m
KOXC2003
07-05-04, 07:18 PM
15 years and we are looking at a whole new technology, and i dont even think overclocking will last, which is a damn shame.
I was thinking about this the other day, with the way technology is going, transistors might not be used in processors anymore. I'm sure the new solution will be much faster, which is a huge plus but I don't think you can overclock light. I mean I will deffinetly miss it if overclocking does go away. Everyone will have to think of some other performance enhancer to do instead.
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