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question bout clamps
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and yes they can as wurmdrive clamps can bite into soft tubing and cut through it under the actual drive
and yes they can as wurmdrive clamps can bite into soft tubing and cut through it under the actual drive
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There's no reason to NOT clamp your hoses, but at the exact opposite, there's no reason to OVERclamp your hoses. Tightening your hoseclamps to 4000lbs/in^2 would seal your 1/2" silicon hose no better than about 2lb/in^2.
You need only to tighten them enough to stay put. If you have to tighten them any more to stop a leak, there is likely something else wrong either with the hose or the barb you're using.
You need only to tighten them enough to stay put. If you have to tighten them any more to stop a leak, there is likely something else wrong either with the hose or the barb you're using.
There's one huge reason not to clamp, the barbs you have simply may not require it. Why add complication if it isn't needed? If all the barbs in my loop were as well-designed as the ones on my res I wouldn't waste my time with nylon or screw clamps. And let's not forget, in our rush to a defacto "standard", that some hose types make adhesion to barbs much more secure by virtue of their stickiness.
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ZachM said:
Ditto. Hose barbs may not leak now, but you don't know that someone won't bump your computer... pull on a tube... whatever
ZachM said:
Understood, but I was in no way challenging your right to use whatever precautions you deem necessary. However, if something isn't needed it just isn't. On the contrary, I think they do add complexity, by definition. If you use the less dangerous nylon clamps you DO have to be careful in terms of placement along the barb and in the pressure you use to apply them. In spiral clamps you have all the POTENTIAL problems of nylon clamps with the added hazard of them being relatively easy to over-tighten.
AGAIN, you can use whatever you want. But if I can reduce the number of parts comprising my loop without loosing overall integrity and security, I will.
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RedViper said:
Not by skipping hose clamps.
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www.dictionary.com said:
Emphasis mine... Hoseclamps are security, not using hoseclamps would definitely fit in the "less secure" category. All it could take is a good bump, shake, or a screw somehow backing loose and your reservoir tries to fall down and tugs against the hoses.
A clamp would keep it watertight in all scenarios. Not having a clamp, well, wouldn't...
As for complexity? A hoseclamp is no more complex than a pencil sharpener. It doesn't take a $50 torque wrench to know when you're clamping too tight, and it doesn't require a genious to figure out how to strap them to the proper point in the barb.
All my barbs are "barbed", and they all have hose clamps. I can quite literally pick up my entire watercooling system by the radiator and everything else will hang on by the hoses. This will never happen while it's running in my computer, but knowing that it has that kind of integrity to the system is quite calming to me. Especially when, as someone else mentioned, all that water is within several millimeters of the most expensive pieces in my computer.
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Geez! "And aliens might come down and shake my case upside down, so I MUST have clamps!!! And no one (in this open forum) should feel any different!!!" Guys, I use clamps, of both types. I'm just willing to entertain the idea, based on observation and engineering, that they might not be needed for a leak-free system. Hurried trips trips to dictionary.com and super-heated rhetoric won't change the way I think.
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RedViper said:
Um yeah... a computer case falling over is such a far-fetched idea...
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RedViper said:
what about Cathar running without hose clamps and then drenching his motherboard?
going to dig up the thread now
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greenman100 said:
Mind you, I did have around 15PSI of pressure going into the block at the time.
For less highly powered systems (most everyone) that typically operate in the 2-3PSI range I do believe that one can usually get by without using clamps so long as the tubing is biting into the barb pretty well.
squeakygeek said:
This is pathetic. How often do I have to say that I don't CARE what anyone else uses? For me, I'll keep an open mind. If this posture offends any of you then too bad.
Now that Cathar has said that barbs MAY not be needed, I'm waiting to see if you guys level some of your irrational attacks on him. Well?
BTW Cathar, I admire your oft-copied contributions to water-cooling. I hope I can find one of your blocks for my next refit.
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RedViper said:This is pathetic. How often do I have to say that I don't CARE what anyone else uses? For me, I'll keep an open mind. If this posture offends any of you then too bad.
Now that Cathar has said that barbs MAY not be needed, I'm waiting to see if you guys level some of your irrational attacks on him. Well?
BTW Cathar, I admire your oft-copied contributions to water-cooling. I hope I can find one of your blocks for my next refit.
ok, run your system without barbs and see what happens
haha
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Cathar said:
is $5 for clamps too much to insure against a fried $120 motherboard?
spend $150 to watercool, but $5 is too much to hold it all together...I have a lot of respect for you, Cathar, but I do not understand your decision to go without clamps for so long.
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RedViper said:
Oh the irony
read your post.
