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Macadonious
07-24-04, 06:10 PM
Question: What reason did Microsoft have to offer Windows XP so soon after the release of Windows 2000 Pro.?

If you have a referance where you recieved your answer from, please plug it in. I need to know this as soon as possible.
Thanks guys

Macadonious
07-25-04, 09:02 AM
I cannot beleive that on this particular forum, that know one knows this answer or knows where to find this answer. Shame on yous

dyefade
07-25-04, 09:11 AM
Weren't the OS's aimed at different markets? So 2000 Pro was for Servers, XP was for desktops?

madman22
07-25-04, 09:13 AM
they let people buy 2000 Pro, the people that buy it just want to stay upto date. Then they release XP, some of the same people that got 2000 Pro will want to stay upto date, so they buy XP, giving microsoft even more money.

WyrmMaster
07-25-04, 10:29 AM
Weren't the OS's aimed at different markets? So 2000 Pro was for Servers, XP was for desktops?

that was it as far as i know. 2k pro was designed not for servers really (2k server, on the other hand...), but it was aimed at the business market. Home users were supposed to be using windows ME at this time. XP was designed and marketed for home use. Although i guess you could say that XP pro and 2K pro were aimed at the same markets... so the money thing could be a factor.

EDIT: on second thought... were they really that close? Wasnt XP released in 2k2... 2 or 3 years between releases has been pretty standard over the years. 95, 98, ME / 2k (both in 2k i believe) XP (in 2k2), and now in 2k4 or 2k5 we will have longhorn (or whatever its gona be called)

dyefade
07-25-04, 02:55 PM
XP was 2001. Longhorn is said to be for 2006, but no-one is sure.

Macadonious
07-25-04, 06:39 PM
All of these are GREAT answers but, I need some info as to where to find this info. I have to do a 5 page report and this is just one part of it. I cannot find a way to look on Google.com to find this kind of info.

dark_15
07-25-04, 11:15 PM
http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:Km2yd5AgkXAJ:www.ccm.ac.uk/ltech/cfet/materials/files/file%25206.pdf+introduction+of+windows+XP+and+2000&hl=en

Macadonious
07-26-04, 06:43 AM
http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:Km2yd5AgkXAJ:www.ccm.ac.uk/ltech/cfet/materials/files/file%25206.pdf+introduction+of+windows+XP+and+2000&hl=en
This is a good link, but unfortunitly, it is not quit the information that I was looking for. I do thank you though. ;)

jajmon
07-26-04, 12:25 PM
All of these are GREAT answers but, I need some info as to where to find this info. I have to do a 5 page report and this is just one part of it. I cannot find a way to look on Google.com to find this kind of info.


Search on Microsoft windows timeline,,,,,,,,,,,,many hits.

here is some help on your homework

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/WinHistoryIntro.mspx

Macadonious
07-26-04, 02:31 PM
Search on Microsoft windows timeline,,,,,,,,,,,,many hits.

here is some help on your homework

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/WinHistoryIntro.mspx
Unfortunitly, I have already used this site as a referances to another part of the report. I have to have 2 referances per page on a five page report, thus I have to have ten different referances
:-/

nealric
07-26-04, 02:42 PM
Do you want the conspiracy answer?

My thoght is that Microsoft could not come out with a stable os for consumer because it needed to make reasons to upgrade. However, they were going to get jacked on the server market without one. Vioala, win 2k.
Although win 2k was in every way superior to 98/Me they repeatedly said 2k was only for buisness use. Reason: they wanted people to buy 98--->me---> xp instead of 98--->2k

Same reason why win NT was never marketed at the home user.

Macadonious
07-26-04, 02:44 PM
I would love to put that in my report, but I need a referance to sick on my paper where I got the information :)

nealric
07-26-04, 03:03 PM
I dont think microsoft will tell you that ;)

You can treat it as analysis. You only need to cite facts.

rogerdugans
07-26-04, 03:34 PM
The link by dark_15 has what seems to be pertinent info to me-

Win2K released in four versions oriented mainly towards servers and business use.
(WinME was concurrently the home user suggestion from MS, but not highly popular.)

WinXP was/is oriented towards the home user primarily, although one variant is aimed at corporate use.

You have to scroll down the page, but I think that info is pertinent to your topic.

I also think it is correct. ;)

I can publish my own personal opinion on the topic on my website to give you a reference, but I am not sure if my combined conspiracy/lousy business ethics theory is either true or usable for you. ;)

Macadonious
07-26-04, 06:28 PM
The link by dark_15 has what seems to be pertinent info to me-

Win2K released in four versions oriented mainly towards servers and business use.
(WinME was concurrently the home user suggestion from MS, but not highly popular.)

WinXP was/is oriented towards the home user primarily, although one variant is aimed at corporate use.

You have to scroll down the page, but I think that info is pertinent to your topic.

I also think it is correct. ;)

I can publish my own personal opinion on the topic on my website to give you a reference, but I am not sure if my combined conspiracy/lousy business ethics theory is either true or usable for you. ;)

Publish it anyways. I think that I will have to look at dark_15's link again. Maybe I can gather enough info to make a page or two. Thanks

rogerdugans
07-26-04, 09:33 PM
Getting ready to quit for the night and I saw that you had posted again...

I decided to do a quick search to check some facts, and found THIS PAGE (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/WinHistoryDesktop.mspx) to start with.

Yes, it comes from MS and is part of the history linked to above by jajmon.

Basically it comes down to this: Win2K was intended for business users as an upgrade from Windows NT 4.0.

Windows XP was intended as an upgrade from Win9x primarily but built from the code in Win2K; basically, XP added the multimedia features from WinME to the solid core of Windows 2000, creating a stable, versatile operating system suitable for home OR office use.

At least that's what Microsoft says. ;)

I am sorry to say that I got a bit sidetracked this evening: if you still need a slightly wacko page to reference as well, I can do it tomorrow. ;)

dyefade
07-27-04, 03:58 AM
My thoght is that Microsoft could not come out with a stable os for consumer because it needed to make reasons to upgrade. However, they were going to get jacked on the server market without one. Vioala, win 2k.
Although win 2k was in every way superior to 98/Me they repeatedly said 2k was only for buisness use. Reason: they wanted people to buy 98--->me---> xp instead of 98--->2k

Same reason why win NT was never marketed at the home user.

That makes total sense, and is hardly something MS have tried hard to disguise. I'm sure Macadonious (or someone else...) could find a business analysis stating this somewhere, then that could be a new angle in your report.

Macadonious
07-27-04, 08:33 AM
rogerdugans Thank you for the link. I beleive this will work.
dyefade I agree, this would be a great angle for the report. I just need to link the topic to someone.....nealric :attn:

DMac
07-27-04, 10:10 AM
Windows 2000 is definately meant to be used as a network operating system. The client version (2000 Pro) is specifically designed to access Windows 2000 Server(s), fully utilizing its capabilities through Active Directory. It's a pretty cut and dry OS. It's very stable and offers many improvements, such as plug and play hwardware support, over its predecessor - Windows NT 4.0. XP is based on Windows 2000 but has a more "user friendly" interface. (according to M$) It's meant for end users. It gives them an "easy to use" OS with the stability of Windows 2000 and even more hardware support.

So as to the question of why they released XP so soon after 2000 - why not? They're targeting different customers.

Macadonious
07-27-04, 10:18 AM
Windows 2000 is definately meant to be used as a network operating system. The client version (2000 Pro) is specifically designed to access Windows 2000 Server(s), fully utilizing its capabilities through Active Directory. It's a pretty cut and dry OS. It's very stable and offers many improvements, such as plug and play hwardware support, over its predecessor - Windows NT 4.0. XP is based on Windows 2000 but has a more "user friendly" interface. (according to M$) It's meant for end users. It gives them an "easy to use" OS with the stability of Windows 2000 and even more hardware support.

So as to the question of why they released XP so soon after 2000 - why not? They're targeting different customers.

Bud, I cannot agree with you more. You are tight on the money with your comment. However, the information you have needs to be a link to a site that I can say that I received it from. My professor is a knit picker and will look at all of my references.

DMac
07-27-04, 10:45 AM
Don't know if annoyances.org would be considered professional and credible lol but here's something:

http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/article10-001

Macadonious
07-27-04, 02:44 PM
Don't know if annoyances.org would be considered professional and credible lol but here's something:

http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/article10-001
:bday: LOL............I just happened to use that exact same page... thanks :D

DMac
07-28-04, 08:24 AM
No problem.

diggingforgold
07-28-04, 08:57 AM
Cite the people on these forums as your source. I've done it before. But you will need full name and phone number and date usually for MLA work cited as a interview.

TranceBear
07-28-04, 03:26 PM
Cite the people on these forums as your source. I've done it before. But you will need full name and phone number and date usually for MLA work cited as a interview.

I have been used as a source since I have worked for Microsoft on and off for 4 years and I can help once again.
I will give you the info I know as fact and not rumor about this topic.

According to many friends who work for the Windows team, they say that Win98SE was supposed to be the only OS for the home market until WinXP Home came out. The public complained and the team just added some crude additions to Win98SE that were already in development for WinXP and out came WinME. This mistake is the reason that there is no longer any offical support for WinME anymore. It is as dead as Win95
Win2k was a direct improvement/replacement for WinNT and never was really geared for the home user. That was WinXP Home's job.
WinXP Pro is a direct improvement/replacement for Win2k
WinXP Home is a direct improvement/replacement for WinME/Win98SE
Win2003 Server is a direct improvement/replacement for WinXP Pro

So the timeframe between Win2k and WinXP is the normal timeframe for buisness server OS' and was never meant to be for the home user.
The general public really complains if there is no OS put out about every 2-3 years. hence the SP1-2 for WinXP. These seem to make the public happy since "longhorn" is taking much longer than originaly planned, but you guys will like it allot!! I am using it right now as beta.

My 2 cents says that Ole' Billy Gates wants buisnesses to upgrade more often cause that is the bread-and-butter of the companies profits.

I can add this to my buisness website if you need a better source but this thread should do fine.

Macadonious
07-28-04, 06:32 PM
I have been used as a source since I have worked for Microsoft on and off for 4 years and I can help once again.
I will give you the info I know as fact and not rumor about this topic.

According to many friends who work for the Windows team, they say that Win98SE was supposed to be the only OS for the home market until WinXP Home came out. The public complained and the team just added some crude additions to Win98SE that were already in development for WinXP and out came WinME. This mistake is the reason that there is no longer any offical support for WinME anymore. It is as dead as Win95
Win2k was a direct improvement/replacement for WinNT and never was really geared for the home user. That was WinXP Home's job.
WinXP Pro is a direct improvement/replacement for Win2k
WinXP Home is a direct improvement/replacement for WinME/Win98SE
Win2003 Server is a direct improvement/replacement for WinXP Pro

So the timeframe between Win2k and WinXP is the normal timeframe for buisness server OS' and was never meant to be for the home user.
The general public really complains if there is no OS put out about every 2-3 years. hence the SP1-2 for WinXP. These seem to make the public happy since "longhorn" is taking much longer than originaly planned, but you guys will like it allot!! I am using it right now as beta.

My 2 cents says that Ole' Billy Gates wants buisnesses to upgrade more often cause that is the bread-and-butter of the companies profits.

I can add this to my buisness website if you need a better source but this thread should do fine.


COuld you be so kind as to place this on your web site and give me the link to it. This will be great info