[JOURNAL] birth of little boy blue

[Mr.Guvernment]

UPDATED March 21st 2005


See last post! :D


UPDATED March 19th 2005

Waiting for just my radiator to arrive, get it on monday, have the day booked off work, so i can have some fun.

benchmarking away -now pushing the pressy as far as i can prime stable so far @ 3.71 with 1.43 volts into the core with Air.


RAM
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/PC4000%202.5-3-3-7.%202.8v.JPG
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/cpuz%20ram.JPG


CPU
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/cpuz%203.71.JPG


UPDATED Feb 26th 2005
I managed toget a hold of a 3.2 pressy out of a dell laptop and am going toput a 2.6c ihave back in the laptop.

I had a TT spark 7+ cpu cooler on my 3.0C chip that i got to boot to windows @ 4030mhz, but the temp was high and my ramw as sucking up 3.2volts.

I put the pressy in the system with the spark 7 and temp hit 69C full load with F@H - i then decide to put my SLK-948U back in with a 92mm fan - this Cooler does not cover the full CPU since the CPU is ona 45 degree angle - but temps are cooler!


i have the pressy @ 3.6 with stock voltage and the temps are @ 63C stable - i know this is still warm - but it is also a rarely hot day here today.

I got some water cooling parts on the way :) so hope i can take this baby tpo 4ghz stable.

Also on the way is 1g kit of OCZ pc4000 Rev 2 (2.5-3-3-7) which should help as well!

If i did not mention i got my x800PRO back from RMA but they gave me an x800 Xt since it took me 3 months!!!

check last page soon for newer pics and soon some benching images etc etc


Current contents list


Abit AI7
P4 3.2 Pressy
OCZ PC4000 1g kit (2 x 512) (2.5-3-3-7)
74g Raptor
160g WD 8mb
120g WD 8mb
80g Samsung 2mb
Visiontek x800 XT 256mb + Ati Silencer 4
Dual fortron 400w PSU's
SLK-948U + 92mm fan @ 3280 RPM (blue LED's)
3 x 120mm coolermaster fans (blue LED's)
Artic Silver 5 on all parts :D


In the mail

1/2 PolarFlo TT waterblock
PrimoFlex 1/2" ID PVC UV Blue Tubing - 10ft
1/2" PolarFLO TT Series Posi-Seal Barbs
Danger Den 1/2" Fillport - BLUE





About 2 months ago i sold my main gaming rig (9700PRO / 2.4 @ 2.8 / 1g pc3200 / 160gDH) for $1000US and 2 other system for a total of $2100 US and was going to go and build a dual Opteron rig at the time, but then deiced, nah, I don’t need it, so heck i am going to build a new gaming system! since i could not play my games on my 8500 card :(

So I did - I headed out to EBay @ first to find some good prices, I got my CPU from there, but it took forever to arrive and that was it - the rest - good old newegg.com!!! (They take my Costa Rican credit card and delivered to Miami address I had!)
(And a good kinder soul here on Ocforums ;))


So, to get right to it, here are the specs of this new system that is being built


Abit AI7 mobo
Intel P4 2.6C UPDATE Now have a 3.0C that will post @ 4ghz
VisionTec Xstasy x800PRO UPDATE RMAD' - waiting for return (going on 2 months now!!!)
512 pc3200 - will be upgraded once I find the MAX O/C on this cpu to @ least 1g and better ram
160g WD 8mb - being replaced with a 74g Raptor once it arrives UPDATE Raptor arrived and installed
CoolerMaster STACKER!!!!
Dual 400w Fortron PSU's with Blue LED's
Thermaletake SLK-948U
Thermaletake A2017 Fan for SLK 90mm
Rounded copper shielded IDE cables / floppy
FrozenCPU foam padding for noise dampening(sp?)
Logitech MX510
fuNc mouse pad

http://66.207.201.54/matt/items.jpg
http://66.207.201.54/matt/02.jpg
http://66.207.201.54/matt/03.jpg
http://66.207.201.54/matt/04.jpg
So I finally got everything here today, the video card I bought from bobmanfoo here on Ocforums - this card does 540 / 580 stable and am told can hit 600 core with the volt mod - but I have not tested that yet but I know I will be! Unfortunately the pipe mod did not work when i tried, but am going to try again

As for the 2.6c i got it new for $150 off eBay at the time - it seems this chips don’t overclock that great - all i am hoping for is a
measly 3.2ghz and i will be happy!

I just ordered the raptor last night so it wont be her till next week.

So i will be updating this thread with pictures of everything as i progress and will post all my benches here as well


So any word of wisdom before i go nuts?
Any benchmarks I should run once i get a fresh format? I am going to try the Direct X 9c and 4.8 beta's to see how they go together and will be using Windows XP - I was going to use one of our companies Server 2003 - but it turns out I get 1000 less 3dmarks with it over XP!! or @ least on my Asus P4P800 I do, maybe wont
be the case on this board but will find out eventually

So, off i go and wish me luck!

[beau_zo_brehm]

:)


hey all! (pics to come soon)

well as i have noted in many threads i was building a new system and today is the day! the final
parts arrived! well one more to go but it wont stop me MUAHAHA!

About 2 months ago i sold my main gaming rig (9700PRO / 2.4 @ 2.8 / 1g pc3200 / 160gDH) for $1000US and 2 other system for a total of $2100 US and was going to go and build a dual Opteron rig at the time, but then deiced, nah, I don?t need it, so heck i am going to build a new gaming system! since i could not play my games on my 8500 card :(

So I did - I headed out to EBay @ first to find some good prices, I got my CPU from there, but it took forever to arrive and that was it - the rest - good old newegg.com!!! (They take my Costa Rican credit card and delivered to Miami address I had!)
(And a good kinder soul here on Ocforums ;))


So, to get right to it, here are the specs of this new system that is being built


Abit AI7 mobo
Intel P4 2.6C
VisionTec Xstasy x800PRO
512 pc3200 - will be upgraded once I find the MAX O/C on this cpu to @ least 1g and better ram
160g WD 8mb - being replaced with a 74g Raptor once it arrives
CoolerMaster STACKER!!!!
Dual 400w Fortron PSU's with Blue LED's
Thermaletake SLK-948U
Thermaletake A2017 Fan for SLK 90mm
Rounded copper shielded IDE cables / floppy
FrozenCPU foam padding for noise dampening(sp?)
Logitech MX510
fuNc mouse pad

http://66.207.201.54/matt/items.jpg
http://66.207.201.54/matt/02.jpg
http://66.207.201.54/matt/03.jpg
http://66.207.201.54/matt/04.jpg
So I finally got everything here today, the video card I bought from bobmanfoo here on Ocforums - this card does 540 / 580 stable and am told can hit 600 core with the volt mod - but I have not tested that yet but I know I will be! Unfortunately the pipe mod did not work when i tried, but am going to try again

As for the 2.6c i got it new for $150 off eBay at the time - it seems this chips don?t overclock that great - all i am hoping for is a
measly 3.2ghz and i will be happy!

I just ordered the raptor last night so it wont be her till next week :(

So i will be updating this thread with pictures of everything as i progress and will post all my benches here as well


So any word of wisdom before i go nuts?
Any benchmarks I should run once i get a fresh format? I am going to try the Direct X 9c and 4.8 beta's to see how they go together and will be using Windows XP - I was going to use one of our companies Server 2003 - but it turns out I get 1000 less 3dmarks with it over XP!! or @ least on my Asus P4P800 I do, maybe wont
be the case on this board but will find out eventually

So, off i go and wish me luck!



good luck! :)

hey y do u need 2 psu? use that extra psu money and get a better cpu, RAM, anything! i think u could have managed your money better, but aslong as your happy then it dosnt really matter. i hope u get what u want out of this pc!

[Mr.Guvernment]

^^^ because i can :)..lol the PSU both of them only came to $130 - i plan to buy new ram anyways - i am just using an old stick of pc3200 i had lying around until i can find out how well the CPU overclocks.

i bought the CPU about 2 months ago off Ebay and had thought i would of had the other parts sooner - but the money for the rig i sold did not come in as fast as i wanted so i was more or less stuck with the 2.6C chip :(

i Might be able to sell it to my work m8 and get a better one iin a worse case scenario :D

thnx for the luck.

[bobmanfoo]

nice, let us know :)

[dead_man311]

Dual PSU's rock , i got an xtra 100Mhz out of my CPU over a single PSU.

Good luck with the Overclock Mr. Gov. Ill look back to see how it does

[Mr.Guvernment]

:)

got some more pics - got the bottom of the case covere with the dampening foama nd part oif the back panel face where the mobo goes through.

got the PUS's installed as well and doing the mobo right now :D

[Mr.Guvernment]

well - coolermaster sure gives you alot with the case


PS click the pics for larger versions if you like :)



You get IDE drive foam to pad them :)
TONS of screws!

http://66.207.201.54/matt/05.jpg


The insides of the beast! just before iput some padding in it
http://66.207.201.54/matt/06.jpg

and with padding on the bottom, and also i put someone the slide out mobo tray back
http://66.207.201.54/matt/07.jpg

One of the 2 fortron 400w silent PSU's nice and purdy!
http://66.207.201.54/matt/07psu.jpg

And, the PSU's both installed and in action - so purdyyyyyyyyy
http://66.207.201.54/matt/08.jpg
http://66.207.201.54/matt/09.jpg

more coming!

[termin@tor]

Nice!

Ahh this day is coming very very soon for me as well. I'll probably purchase the parts on wednesday. Should I post a thread when I receive them? I'm not going for any lights or good looks as I'll be sleeping in the room. Just quietness from the water cooling and professional look. Oh yeah... almost forgot... and a KICKASS system.

[Mr.Guvernment]

^^^ lol we can alsways use pics - i just ilke to take pics so people can see what product looks like in real life, not a pic of it in some studio :)

have fun with your shopping spree :D any idea what your getting?

[Mr.Guvernment]

mobo is installed with cpu / ram and slk948u - it seems that the 90mm fan i got for this is not really amde to fit as they dont mention 90mmonly 80 /72 and 92 - but i just bent the wires a bit and it fits fine!

http://66.207.201.54/matt/11.jpg
http://66.207.201.54/matt/12.jpg

[dead_man311]

looks killer soo far , the Blue Led's on the PSU's look sweet. thats one heck of a case there. i had to take the dremil to mine to do anything. cant wait to see it finished

[Mr.Guvernment]

hehe - dremel - one reason i wanted a nice case so i would not have to hack it bits :) and i would say this case does it all :) got to reboot to take the vid carfd out of this systema nd a cdrom drive so i shall be back.

[dead_man311]

Lol , i think i took like 5 lb's off my case with my dremal. i need a new case one thats set up for a dual power suppy.

[Mr.Guvernment]

mm, suggestion - coolermaster stacker..lol - it even comes with wheels to attach to roll it around.

cant say i have ever liked a case so much as i do this one!

i tried the dremel thing but wasnt too good at it :(

[nissmo300]

you should dremel the side where that big ugly circle is and make a nice window for that. Then it will be awesome.

[Mr.Guvernment]

^^^ i was considering that - i would not even need to dremwl anything since that mesh screws on and off :) it is a conbsideration, mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


Well good news is - i got it all together and formating with XP now - in the bios i got it to boot @ 250FSb so that was like 3.25 or something - tried for 260 and would not boot, so hopefully windows can handle the 3.25 :D


HOLLY CRAP!! i just formated and installed windows xp in like 20 mins!!!!!


Some more pics of this purdy piece of art in the making :) in next post

[Mr.Guvernment]

pictures of it on and working!

http://66.207.201.54/matt/13.jpg
http://66.207.201.54/matt/13a.jpg


Look @ how neat those wires are hidden!! :D did my best
http://66.207.201.54/matt/14.jpg
http://66.207.201.54/matt/15.jpg

[Mr.Guvernment]

the front mesh is nice - get some good air flow.
http://66.207.201.54/matt/16.jpg
http://66.207.201.54/matt/17.jpg
http://66.207.201.54/matt/18.jpg

[termin@tor]

any idea what your getting?



A64 3400+
K8N Neo Platinum
1GB Corsair XMS PC3200XLPRO
eVGA 6800GT (unless I get on one of those crazy deals for and XT or an Ultra)
Antec True 550W PSU
36.7GB 10k Raptor (maybe I'll take that off list if the total price is too high... I can always add a second 160GB Seagate and RAID 0 them :D)
160GB 7k Seagate
Audigy 2 ZS
...and a RAZER VIPER!!!1 w00t w00t!
Heh... these are just the main components... I'll make a thread in the general section when the time comes... I have a lot more stuff I'll buy... I'm just too lazy to write it out right now

External water cooling in an old case:

WW for A64
DD block for 6800
DD maze 4 for chipset
Eheim 1250
DD double heater core
2x Dtek shrouds + those enermax fans at newegg with fan controllers that do 60 cfm's at 24 dBA's
Water Wetter
15' Clerflex tubing from mcmaster w/ 1/8" thick walls
20 Hose clamps from mcmaster
One T fitting for T-line

[termin@tor]

Ohh... wow... shiny...

:D

It looks awesome! I think you should add an LED right where that blower fan thingy should be. It'll make it even better!

Also, sleeve those PSU's with red UV reactive sleeving. I know it'll be a pain in the ass, but it'll really be worth it. Especially if put that LED I suggested right where you hid the wires.

[Mr.Guvernment]

purdy back
http://66.207.201.54/matt/20.jpg


And now my quest - to hide and tidy up all of these wires! this is certainly the WROST part about having dual PSU's!!!!!
http://66.207.201.54/matt/21.jpg

[Mr.Guvernment]

Ohh... wow... shiny...

:D

It looks awesome! I think you should add an LED right where that blower fan thingy should be. It'll make it even better!

Also, sleeve those PSU's with red UV reactive sleeving. I know it'll be a pain in the ass, but it'll really be worth it. Especially if put that LED I suggested right where you hid the wires.


that is a thought - i did have in my head that this will be my super computer - that i would actually go all out and make it look kick ass.

i know everyone ahs blue lights, but i like blue dammit!! - maybe even do some uv paint on the grey USB / firewire wires and such or sleev them - i guess there is no eaqsy way top sleev except taking the ends right off the plugs?

how would it look with the plastic sleeves ones? the tubes that ui can just split in half and wrap around it?


And that looks like one kick ass system - i think that system deserves a stacker..lol - i hear they come in black now :D

[termin@tor]

that is a thought - i did have in my head that this will be my super computer - that i would actually go all out and make it look kick ass.

i know everyone ahs blue lights, but i like blue dammit!! - maybe even do some uv paint on the grey USB / firewire wires and such or sleev them - i guess there is no eaqsy way top sleev except taking the ends right off the plugs?

how would it look with the plastic sleeves ones? the tubes that ui can just split in half and wrap around it?


And that looks like one kick ass system - i think that system deserves a stacker..lol - i hear they come in black now :D

Red UV sleeving would look awesome. It really, really stands out on blue lights, and looks cool. Especially if you have a lot of blue lights.

If you get a sleeving kit, you have to also get a molex remover so that you can actually sleeve them. Ohh... just got an even better idea! Get some good red UV reactive sleeving, orange works nice as wel. Then, get bright green (or some other bright color that would stand out well) molexe connectors. That would make it uber cool. Just provide enough blue LED's and you're set.

If you're talking about the plastic wrapping I'm thinking of... I think it would make it look ugly. Unless you can get UV plastic wrapping or paint it with UV paint. Sleeving would look much nicer and much more professional.

For my new rig, if I have the money, I'll probably get the PSU presleeved so that I don't have to worry about it. I'm really not going for looks, but it would make it look really professional and increase the air flow a little. I'd rather spend some extra $ on someone doing it for me and doing a damn good job at it, than doing it myself.

[Mr.Guvernment]

^^^ will have to see how motivated i get to take all the wiring out and redo it..lol

did some benching so far with 3d 03' - not overly impressed highest i got was 11300 with the 2.6 @ 3.13 and the x800 @ 540 / 580 - that was with cats 4.7 as the 4.8's did not work with the atitool

i am going to reformat later today and try it again - i want to break 12,000!!! i need to find out mroe about this PAT stuff :) as the inter application accelerator they say is only if your using the SERIALATA raid stuf f:(

[dead_man311]

that turned out sweet looking , the blue coming throw the front is cool

[Mr.Guvernment]

it certainly is! since this stupid SLK948U - sory stupid Abit decided to turn the CPU on an angel in the socket - the slk948u does not cover the corners of the cpu!!!!!!

so looking into water cooling now but need to check as to what blocks will cover this cpu since it is angeled :(

[Mr.Guvernment]

So have formated my rig again as when i first did it - it just did not feel good, had firefox crashing alot and problems with games.


- any benches people would like me to run on this x800PRO

@ stock speeds?

overclocked?

got 3dmark2k3
aqua mark

can download what ever else

games i have in posession are

Farcry
Unreal tournament (had 2k4 gave it to friend reordering)
Joint Ops - typhoon rising
BF1942 and all add on
MOH and all add-ons


anything? i plan to O/C the vid card first -find it best spt - then O/C the CPU and tighten the ram

[bobmanfoo]

:thup: :drool:

[Mr.Guvernment]

^^ hehe - see, she is in a good home!! nice and safe :D

P.S - just ordered WC cooling for my CPU :)

[bobmanfoo]

man another thing that i miss but never tried is the 1080 output(hdtv res) to an hdtv with the x800pro, highest tv output on my gt is 480...........WHY!!!!!!! :bang head *dreams of gaming on my 51" widescreen hdtv at 1080* so if you have an hdtv or hdtv ready unit please use it and enjoy, and tell me how it goes........... i am waiting on a good deal for another x800pro :thup:

[Mr.Guvernment]

^^ i wish! all i got is a 52' big screen that has the 480I input on it :( time to save for an HD tv :)

So want to buy an X800 pro for $500?...lol :)

[Mr.Guvernment]

i dont like these cat 4.8 betas

i can not get the core to 540 or ram to 580 anymore :( on the x800 :(


i freeze @ 531 core or higher.

[Syx]

Very nice, kick ass and very professional looking :D

[Mr.Guvernment]

Thnx m8 for the kinds words :) cant wait for my water cooling to show up!


Is weird now - i think the x800PRO memory is dying..lol

now i am getting artifacts @ 531 / 576 :( - i hope it is just the cat's 4.8's beta!


as for some scores

Stock 2.6C / 512 pc3200


x800PRO Stock..............9602
x800PRO 501|501..........10189
x800PRO 519.75|519.75..10473
x800PRO 529.88|540.......10727
x800PRO 531|560.25.......10811
x800PRO 533.25|571.50...10860
x800PRO 528.43|574.7.....10869
x800PRO 529.20|580.50....10894
x800PRO 528|585.............10911


is weird for as you can see i hit 585 before fine - then i upped the core and got artifacts so took it back down but still get em when before this format i was running the core @ 550 for a few days :(

[Mr.Guvernment]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


sorry had to let that out :(

[shard]

lookin good man!

god that is a beautiful case! i can hardly wait! 1 month until i have all the money for mine! then I can play DOOM3! woohoo!

when are yu getting the crossflow fan? or are you not getting it?


when the hell is that window for this case supposed to come out?

[Mr.Guvernment]

^^ thnx - i want to get the corss flow the the window - heard i think the window wont be out until this month sometime - hopefully

but the crappy part is that i will have an extra side window - maybe mod the panel that came with it to go on the otehr side of the case or something

who knows!

[Mr.Guvernment]

Well i got water cooling on the way soon - i got my WD 74g Rptor in the system and it flies@

gooing to canada this week so going to grab the Plextor 712SA (serial ATA 12x DVD burner) :)

[Shoeby]

Nice case gov. The blue from the PSU's just look so hot. I wanna see some more pics of it after you get the wires all behind the mobo.

[Cid]

How's the water cooling setup going? I'm curious to see how you set it up

[Mr.Guvernment]

Hey all thanks for bringing back up this thread was going to the other day :d :D

unfortunatly i have not got the water cooling yet ahd some issues buying it online and my CC company charging me but dangerden not getting the money - is taking foreevr to get it sorted out!

So i still want to get WC, but now my g/f will be down from Sep 27th - Dec 15th so not sure when i will have time but i want to do it before years end :D


Shoeby - once i get my x800PRO back and reqire the case i will get some pics :D

[Mr.Guvernment]

ahh memeories - now that i have moved into my own house and have some tools and such - i can consider watter cooling again! woo hoo - aa project to keep me busy on weekends :D

[sevendevilhell]

wholly crap. that is one nice system. no matter how against intel and ati i am, i still love what you're doing with this. looks sweet with the lights from those power supplies and that HSF setup.

also, i'm likin that case. the front looks badass to the max. transparent so the lights shine through. it's one thing to have a nice system, and it's one thing to have a nice looking system. but to have one that looks nice and performs nice is always a plus.

soon i will be upgrading processor, memory, motherboard, PSU, and chopping my case up for some extra fans. but since i'm 17 and have no job, it might be awhile. i'm hoping i can get it looking as nice as this one.

[Mr.Guvernment]

^^^ thanks for the kind words, things like that tend to motivate me more to get things done :)

once the end of the month bills come in since i just moved into my own house see what my budget is for new toys for this baby is :D

just orderd a p4 3.0C to replace the 2.6c (will go into 2nd system) and if i ever get my video card back! will be all set - then i can get the WC - and really go to work on it :D

[Mr.Guvernment]

i hate being broke..lol this moving out on my own cost money = especially all those initial bills - might not be until the new year that i can get the WC things i want :(

[Mr.Guvernment]

Oh.

PS - the 2.6c was changed with a 3.0C that posts @ 4ghz :D but only runs cool on air @ 3.8.

[Mr.Guvernment]

Does anyone know of anywhere that sells HD cages for the coolermaster stacker?

[Flip-Mode]

Very nice rig, good work.

[Grov]

Very sweet.

Iam seriously looking at the stacker, and would appreciate it if you would look at my thread i made about a new case on the first page mate, as i wanna ask you some questions about it, or i could just ask them here?

Are your temps a lot better with the case? I really want to improve my temps, thats why iam looking at it?

Do you have the 300mm cross flow fan thing? If you do any good?

I want to have more than 1 120mm fan for intake at the front, would i need to buy more of the drive bay thingies????

I might go watercooling in a year or to, so id want this case for that as well, i suppose it's good for that? with the space?

I might want to cut a whole in the side panel fr a CPU blowhole, would it be easy to do? ie is it aluminium? or steel?

I will be using 1 PSU, would it be better to have the PSU at the bottom of the case, and use 2x80mm's for airflow at the top??

Thanks for your time, this case looks sweet.

[Mr.Guvernment]

^^ promise i will answe you tonight..lol completely forgot~

[Enyo]

omg!.. youve got nearly exactly the same as me .. but mines a 2500 barton and im building a file server.. also my cm stackers in blue :D

1tb lan here i come!

http://xs12.xs.to/pics/05035/image015.jpg

-edit- btw i took this pic BEFORE .. i saw this post.. its rather creepy really.. :eh?:


-edit2- temps are extremly nice too, with 8 hdd's (200gb WD's in raid 5 with about 1cm clearence between drives there currently at 29c)

case 25c
psu 27c
cpu 29c

big cases rule!

nb (though there is a watercooling rig in that picture - and its too large to fit in the case - its wasn't used to get these temps!, needs cleaning out >_>)

-edit3- www.overclockers.co.uk sell hard drive bays for the cm stacker.

[Enyo]

bored.. so double post :P

Are your temps a lot better with the case? I really want to improve my temps, thats why iam looking at it?

YES.. the open space inside helps convection out a lot. and the case is designed nicely.

Do you have the 300mm cross flow fan thing? If you do any good?

i don't.. and i probably won't get it, though there is still venting for it on the case. i don't see much point cooling parts of the computer that don't need cooling such as caps etc. better off getting another 120mm fan for the front, or modding the side vent to take a 120mm

I want to have more than 1 120mm fan for intake at the front, would i need to buy more of the drive bay thingies????

yes. unless you modded it or held it in another way.

I might go watercooling in a year or to, so id want this case for that as well, i suppose it's good for that? with the space?

its a great case for watercooling, lots and lots of space inside if you don't use the second psu, but it doesn't gain much on the water cooling side unless you want all the bits inside the case (which sucks a bit for efficency - as the rad SHOULD be above the cpu as covection works in watercooling too)

I might want to cut a whole in the side panel fr a CPU blowhole, would it be easy to do? ie is it aluminium? or steel?

no need to cut a blow hole for the cpu as its a mesh and already has a fan socket (comes empty)

I will be using 1 PSU, would it be better to have the PSU at the bottom of the case, and use 2x80mm's for airflow at the top??

yes. but your mobo's lead and hdd leads might not be long enough

Thanks for your time, this case looks sweet.

try it in blue :P



and my temps were got with a stock barton2500 on a stock heatsink.. its a server.. but with 30c temps stock its gonna be oc'd soon

[Mr.Guvernment]

^^ thansk for responded

hehe creepy how us stacker people love to show off our cases :)

it is an awsome case - when i bought it it had just come out - they did not even have the plexi sides out yet or the mobo cooler - i would of loved to get a plexi side panel but oh well - once the money starts coming in wil get ym W/C set up going :D - i need to make a CM stacker only forum :D

[Enyo]

definatly!.. ive also got a lian-li .. which may be a nice pretty case.. but the cm stacker is just... HUGE .. and efficent.. and spacey.. and its got chunky bits of aluminum and a full metal front!

gotta be the best case ive seen yet! apart from possibly that £800 zalman .."thing" ..passive case..

i wish i could get a plexy side..but hiding the cables for two psu's and 8 hdd's + front io + fan controler + pump and tubing etc is impossible to tidy ^_^

only slight problem is dust! the front grills get full of it :(

[Mr.Guvernment]

^^ eyah i get a good amoutn fo dust - as for cable - i have been able to hide mine well with 4 hd's 1 cdrom and a dfan controller for my cpu - will try to take pics of it tonight.

[Mr.Guvernment]

well got osme silver rounded IDE cable coming in today - other then that no much happening - STILL waiting on the RMA of my x800PRO - going on 3 months now!!! i think this is such bs!

[threeme2189]

3 months???? i say screw em and go to court or somthing...:mad:

[Mr.Guvernment]

yeah it has been a joke - they first told me 7-10 days - and then the excuse started coming - suppoedly they have none in stock - BUT you can go on THEIR web site and buy a card and they have them in stock.

[subtotal]

threaten to take them to court

[Mr.Guvernment]

AWSOMEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Visiontek finally came through wih my RMA and i guess cause ihad to wait so long i got a Radeon x800Xt!!! baby (rma'd a pro)

:D

[subtotal]

congradulations :beer:

[Mr.Guvernment]

thanks :d been playing Joint operations all night :D

[Mr.Guvernment]

Well this x800XT does well - only does about 540 on core and about 530 on ram - got a new VGA silencer on the way and some new ram sinks - also ordering another drive bacy for my stacker so that is another 120mm fan on the front :D

[Mr.Guvernment]

the water cooling quest has begun

i decide to try out the Polarflo TT block , is ncie looking and has kept up close with danger den's blocks - ordering some PrimoFlew tubing 1/ today likely - and possibly a rad if i can not find my 120mm RAD i had from before :D

[Mr.Guvernment]

And on its way right now from Frozen:
WB only coming with 2 since buying it used but i want all 3 baby!
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/ex-tub-49.jpg

It looks purdy!
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/ex-res-44.jpg

10f of PrimoFlex Blue UV tubbing :D
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/ex-tub-53.jpg
On it's way once funds are sent and received:
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/ex-blc-99.jpg
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/ex-blc-98_3.jpg

[PLOBBY]

O man thats gunna be some sweet water cooling along next to your rig.

[Mr.Guvernment]

:D hehe - i sure hope so! i have been getting motivated lately and iw ant to take my 3.0C to 4ghz which i had it post @ once!!!

:D


P.S - i hate the color blue - can you tell? :D

[Mr.Guvernment]

1g of OCZ PC4000 GOld Rev 2 (2 x 512) on it's way baby!!! yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[Mr.Guvernment]

okay, - i now got my paws on a 3.2pressy - one of the ones that is supposed to hit 4ghz easy - but i know my Abit AI7 doesnt like pressy supposedly - so far i had it @ 3.6ghz with 1.5 volts into it,but it was @! 68C - but using a crappy thermaletake spark 7 cooler - which does good, butnot for pressy's.

[man_utd]

Well, good luck with the 4ghz hunt!

[Mr.Guvernment]

^^^ yeah, the bad news is people say the Ai7 cant handle presys well to O/C because of the caps used on them.

So fr so good @ 3.6ghz with F@H 2 instances running - still @ 63C, but as said it is a hot dayhere today.
will keep on pushing!

[Mr.Guvernment]

new pictures with the SLk-948U heatsink back in and the extra harddrive as well as the ati slinecer and 3 new 120mm blue LED fans form coolermaster

(click for larger if you like)

slk in with 92mm fan
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/IMG_6994.jpg

Full side view
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/IMG_6995.jpg

So much blueeeeeeeeeeee
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/IMG_7003.jpg

Silencerr - after playing 4 hours of farcry temp was @ 51C
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/IMG_7005.jpg

330g of storage - using all IDE channels and one of the SATA channels for my raptor - with nice purdy BLUE idea cables

http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/IMG_7009.jpg

3300RPM 92mm fan on the SLK
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/IMG_7011.jpg

More useless shots :)
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/IMG_7016.jpg

[Mr.Guvernment]

and my little helper - thius guy is as big as he is going to get - figure he is a mix of chiwawa and doberman / rotwhiler something - but he is so tiny - but he acts like a full sized mutt! - he has tried to take on all the neighbors dogs and these rangs from 100+lb dobermens to some other weird mixe dogs - but he is fearless - nice to have him this size -is like a large cat :)

Mr.Sammy sticking his tongue out at me

http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/IMG_7019.jpg

I woke him from his deep sleep
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/IMG_7020.jpg



YES, that is my x-mas tree still up in the corner! (it makes for a good light at night)

[man_utd]

Is that a christmas tree?

[Mr.Guvernment]

yes it is :) make a great lamp @ night, not too bright but enough :)

it is a fake, just havent bothered with it :D

[cornbread]

Me likes your case, NICEEEEE.

[Mr.Guvernment]

hehe, thanks - i have never cared about cases much but when i saw the stacker and once i got it home! i love it and will recommend it to EVERYONE - it is an awsome case! the "flaws" people post about it are weak compared to the positives.

[CPUonNO2]

Nice rig! 2 questions if I may:
1) what is that white thing above your video card?
2) is that a Sony Wega KV-32FS120 I see in the background? If so, how is it? I should be picking up my 32FS320 early next month :clap:

[Mr.Guvernment]

The white thing comes with the ATi silencer - it sits on the RAM chips keeping them cool :D


It is a sony WEGA.... mmm, me have to go look and let you know - it is a 2 year old model - i dont like the black on it - using Diret TV if something is all black, it is pixely and seems to be 2 or 3 shades of black - could just be the receivers they use here for the satelite

[da_spork]

wow, that is a really nice case. I've been debating over getting a stacker or a midtower lian li for my next build and after seeing this i might have to go with the stacker lol. thanks for posting these

[Mr.Guvernment]

Your welcome - LianLi makes a great case but this one for me is just awsone - plenty of room for everything!

[man_utd]

Is that recliner comfy or do you like em ghetto :lol Just kidding

[Mr.Guvernment]

yes it is - got two of em, came with the house, they are comfyyyyyyyyyyyy have fallen asleep in them many a time!

[Mr.Guvernment]

new toys have arrived!!!!!


http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/IMG_7357b.JPG

http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/IMG_7358b.jpg

http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/IMG_7359b.JPG



i booted into windows with my 3.2 pressy @ 250FSB and ram 1:1 but it frooze, think i needed more juice in the cpu - we shall see - water cooling parts are in the mail!

[Flip-Mode]

Damn you got nice toys, can I be your friend?

[PLOBBY]

Awww, i want your system :p...except stick an athlon 64 in there :)

[Mr.Guvernment]

lol - i alwasy need new friends :D come on over! but u got to pay for the ticket :D

For me an athlon64 - the extra FPS i might get arent worth it for me to change to a new mobo / cpu - when i got this system it was to be a gaming rig, but also do alot of DVD conversions, i just havent done that yet, so this 3.2 pressy does just fine for now :D

I know i will probably sell this sucker in a year or maybe less for @ least $1800US down here (system is about $2300 new still to buy it all)

[Mr.Guvernment]

got a bit of cash - what am i missing from this system? (i dont mean cpu / vid card or memory)

[shard]

paint the inside of the case, make it blue, it will help alot!

umm, new speakers? the logitech Z-5500's will do you fine :p

[Mr.Guvernment]

hehe, well soon i plan to run my audio into my stereo :d and usually when i play games i use my Seinnheiser's :D

painting is a thought...mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[Mr.Guvernment]

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?p=3548608#post3548608


Hey all,

Well tomorrow my radiator arrives and that gives me a complete water cooling kit - So i want to take my 3.2pressy to 4ghz + stable - i have booted into windows @ 4ghz but temp was getting high so i took it down)


I have an Abit AI7 mobo which i have read alot of people say can not handle the O/C of a pressy. It ran fine for 2 weeks @ 3.6 and no issues.

Anyways, some questions

* WHat is the best way to attacah heat sinks / ram sinks to the caps and resistors and other items?
* What would be the best cooling to get for these items? Just buy ram sinks or ?



Currently benching my system as it is now with an SLK-948 and 90mm fan on my abit AI7 - this is with a pressy 3.2 currently @ 3.6 on stock voltage.

[Mr.Guvernment]

benchmarking away - didnt get my Rad today but getting it on monday, so now pushing the pressy as far as i can prime stable so far @ 3.71 with 1.43 volts into the core with Air.

[Flip-Mode]

burn baby burn

[Mr.Guvernment]

lol

she's a burning - still got it @ 3.71 but now @ 1.43volts instead of 1.48 - sitting around 57 - 60C under full load and it was a hot one today!

[Mr.Guvernment]

OH YEAH BABY!! all water parts have arrived! - guess what i am doing today!


Pro 120 core + shroud
10 1/2 hose clamps
10f PrimoFlex blue UV tubing
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau//01.pics/stacker/water/IMG_7363B.jpg

Polar Flo TT WB - am waiting for polarflo to send me 3 barb kit, for now have to use 2
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau//01.pics/stacker/water/IMG_7367B.jpg

been running with my pump for 2 days, - time to throw the rad into the mix.


My Enhiem 1250 - almost a year old and still works awsome!
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau//01.pics/stacker/water/IMG_7370B.jpg

[Flip-Mode]

I bet you ware very happy when the delivery guy came!

[Mr.Guvernment]

i am, but now i am just as sad :(

http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau//01.pics/stacker/water/IMG_7398B.JPG


yeah univesal mounting kit my butt and thanks Abit for putting things so close together!!!!

[Mr.Guvernment]

woo hoo

had alot of drama today with the WB but all sorted out now, ust mounted my rad - will get pics as soon as i can!

[Mr.Guvernment]

all air bubbles gone!

[shard]

got any pics bud? i would like to see how you finangled that water block on the mobo

[Mr.Guvernment]

will try to get them up today :D (good ol dremel! )

[SpazTech]

Very Nice looking system.

[Mr.Guvernment]

thanks appreciarted

i got it all instaleld but i tihnk i need a better 120mm fan on my rad - i reall cant feel any air coming through the rad and @ 3.5ghz on stock speed and running prime for 3 hours my temps are 52C


Now, that does beat my SLK-948 + 90mm 6000RPM fan that could only hold the cpu @ 66C under full load middle of the day!

so maybe my abit just over reads the temps

On idle i had it @ 39C at around 11pm tonight - been warm around here - around 25C to like 30C - under load late last night it was stable around 48-49C which is what most reviews show this block doing on a prescott.

so going to order a new 120mm fan with some more through put and hope that is all it is as the block is seated nice and firm

Will try to get picks up - i got them all taken, just work has been busy.

[Mr.Guvernment]

woo hoo - moved my case and cleaned up my desk and now my load tepms are @ 48C @ 3.5 with dual prime95 running on maximum heat torture testing :D


pics coming eventually!

[enduro]

pics pics pics :D

Nice results so far. Should be interesting to see if a higher pressure fan will help.

[Mr.Guvernment]

for sure - is @ 50C now, was @ 48C for a while there, running dual F@H now. will try to get some pics linked :D

[Mr.Guvernment]

56C!!! - it is a hot day but tis is on stock speed 3.2pressy and stock voltages!

man i hope it is just the fan i am using!

[schismspeak]

Are you trying to blow the air through the rad? It can work better it you have the air being sucked through. It seems easier(more air gets through) for fans to do it that way for some reason.

[Mr.Guvernment]

yeah got it blowing - my case temps are 38C with the sid panel off, i know it is a warm one today - it is still better then the 66C my air had it @ :D

P.S pics coming ina few mins :D

[Mr.Guvernment]

Had some issues with my water block and mobo:

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=374798


And then i could not decide - ATX or BTX :D (i lvoe my stacker)

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=374805


(more pics coming in a min)

[Mr.Guvernment]

okay everyone - i got my pics upload - now i am going to be lazy and not comment on every one - i will post them in order i took them and you can try to decide the story to go along with it.

If not, the n basically i got all my parts - took apart my beast - cleaned it - admired my parts - started to assemle - had tested the CPU block for a day, and the pump, tested out the rad for a while once i found out my CPU block would not fit in my ABit AI7 :D

and u can go from there

http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7357.JPG
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7358.JPG
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7359.JPG
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7363.JPG

[Mr.Guvernment]

http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7364.JPG
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7367.JPG
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7368.JPG
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7369.JPG
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7372.JPG
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7373.JPG

[Mr.Guvernment]

http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7375.JPG
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7376.JPG
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7378.JPG
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7384.JPG
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7385.JPG

[Mr.Guvernment]

http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7387.JPG
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7391.JPG
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7394.JPG
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7395.JPG
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7396.JPG

[Mr.Guvernment]

http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7397.JPG
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7402.JPG
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7405.JPG
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7409.JPG
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7412.JPG

[Mr.Guvernment]

Decided the BTX standard looked nicer and less stuff for yh water to drip on if it fails (thanks for the comments in my btx thread)


http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7413.JPG
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7416.JPG
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7417.JPG
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7419.JPG
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7423.JPG

[Mr.Guvernment]

http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7424.JPG
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7428.JPG
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7433.JPG
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7436.JPG
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7437.JPG

[Mr.Guvernment]

http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7438.JPG
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7439.JPG
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7441.JPG
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7443.JPG
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7444.JPG

[Mr.Guvernment]

http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7445.JPG
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7447.JPG
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7449.JPG
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7452.JPG
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7453.JPG

[Mr.Guvernment]

http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7454.JPG
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7455.JPG
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7456.JPG
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7458.JPG
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7459.JPG

[Mr.Guvernment]

http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7461.JPG
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7463.JPG
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7464.JPG
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7466.JPG
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7467.JPG

[Mr.Guvernment]

http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7468.JPG
http://fuzzy.phpwebhosting.com/~mathiau/01.pics/stacker/water/redone/IMG_7469.JPG

[Mr.Guvernment]

Okay!! finally got those pics up :D

okay, now just a summery - my system currently consists of

Specs:
P4 pressy 3.2 currenrlt @ 3.6 stock voltage 225FSB
Abit Ai7 - no mods
OCZ PC4000 Gold Rev 2 1g kit (512 x 2) 2.6-3-3-7
VisionTek x800 XT - stock right now
WD Raptor 74g
160g WD 8mb
120g WD 8mb
80g Samsung 2mb
CM Stacker case
Enheim 1250 Pump
PolarFlo TT WB
dangerden fill port
PrimoFlex blue UV tubing
D-Tek 120 PRO heatercore + shroud + 120mm cooleraster fan (to slow need to get better fan)
Dual (2x) Forton 400w PSU's
ForzenCPU sound dampening foam on most of case
NEC 48x cd burner
2 x 120mm blue led coolermaster fans (1 will be taken out)


In the mail:

3 x 12' blue cathod lights
1 x 4' UV cathode light

:D

[Crana]

Nice :drool:

I noticed that you have converted your case to BTX, is it worth doing because i have the same case and since getting it my temps seem to have went up a few c's, would converting it drops CPU temps much? :shrug:

:beer:

[Mr.Guvernment]

well the idea of BTX is to have better air flow - since the CPU is lower in the case it is open to cooler temps compred to the top of the case since heat rises.

i have not noticed a major change since i went from Air+ATX to water+BTX so i dont really have a comparision unless i put my SLK-948 and air back in, but i dont what to go through all that work :D

also i it just looks lot nicer.

If anything your temps would remain the same or go down. but they certainly should not go up.

:D

so when u going water cooling :D

[enduro]

:eek: :eek: :eek:

Holy............that looks awesome man. Beautiful job. Wow.

[Crana]

Maybe i might convert it to BTX when im bored one day :p

Water cooling has always been a dream of mine :D i was gonna maybe get a kit for x-mas this year, but IMO, i dont think i have enough experience with computers yet :p

oh yeh, what about Graphics card temps? BTX would mean higher temps. and also the cables on the mobo (IDE connections etc.) would be on the opposite side, which would make things untidy :(

[maxxoverclocker]

jw but where can u buy the connectors (thats what they are right?) that allow power supplies to run without a mobo, i know ur just shorting connections but is there a connector that you can just plug in for this?

[Mr.Guvernment]

^^ The stacker comes with the adapter :D

thanks enduro - i hope it looks decent once i get the lights in it. :D


i know what i have done is not really anything that hasnt been done yet, but i still think it looks great. :D


crana c - the cables as u can see dont make any difference what aide they are on - mind are neat and they looked the same on the other side as well.

as for water cooling - it can be intimidating, but u ave plenty of info here and once u get the parts it is not as bad a sit looks - i think by x-mas u will know enough to get that WC kit :D and if u need help, that is what we are here for.

[Mr.Guvernment]

:d ilove my system :D

[enduro]

Ha ha any updates?

[firebat45]

definetly need to slleve your PSU(s), thats the only thing left to do on this system. (well, unless you wanna go crazy and WC the GPU, NB, RAM, HD, etc)

[Mr.Guvernment]

hhe - well added some light, looks REAL nice now that i got my side cover on :d will get some pics up tomorrow.

as for cooling he rest, my ATI silencer fan is making more noise then before - so may consder water for it :D


as for temps - i had to take out my mobo and i left on the block - when i putn the mobo all back in, my max temps now have hit 44C = so seems maybe my WB wasnt seated well before :D

[silkshadow]

Hi Mr.Guvernment very, very nice! Can I ask you a couple questions about your PSU setup? For your PSU's: Dual (2x) Forton 400w PSU's Could you possibly post the model of your PSUs? Thanks to the suggestion of another member here, I've decided to go with dual PSUs as well and I was looking at the connector that came with the stacker and it seems to have only 20-pins on all connectors. My mobo (MSI k8n neo4 platinum) is a 24-pin model and, it seems, all new PSUs are 24-pin ones as well. Since you obviously got it all working I'm thinking I'm going to buy the same PSUs you did. Not to mention, damn that looks good! :D Did you run into any problems using the dual PSU setup with the Stacker? Lastly, how loud are those bad boys? Thanks and thanks for posting this journal!

[Mr.Guvernment]

thanks for the kind words :D

will check the model once i get home :)

and i had no problems at all - the only issue is if you unplug or use the power switch to turn off one PSU - the other one turns or stays on, dont know if this is a good or bad thing.

I think the route of DUAL psu's is an excellent one - simply youo provide better power to certain components and you know you are not likely to strain a single PSU - and if one blows - u "might" be able to use your other to power your system - of course pending on the wattage and rails of your PSU's.

i know if i wanted to i could go dual PCIe vid cards - and know i got more then enough power for it :D

[silkshadow]

Thanks Mr.Guvernment! I'd appreciate that as a good 20-pin PSU is hard to find and, again, those look awsome! I assume you used a 20 to 24 pin adapter for the mobo connector?

More power, heck yea! :D

[shard]

He has an Abit AI7, wich is just a standard 20pin mobo, thus i realy dont think that he needed to do so.

[Mr.Guvernment]

^^^ :D yuppers - regualr 20 pin, didnt have to use any special adapters, just plugged it all in and off i went :D

[silkshadow]

Ah, I see. My mobo is a 24-pin one. I am really leery of using a pin converter if I don't have to and when it looked like you got the adaptor to go directly into the mobo I though there was some cool trick you got working :D. Maybe I'll go back to considering the Enermax 600w PSU. I really liked the idea of getting dual PSUs working. Can't believe Coolermaster hasn't come out with a 24-pin adaptor yet :(. Thanks!

[Swatdog]

Man, this is probably one of most nicest looking rigs I have seen in a LOOOONG time.

VERY...no... EXTREMELY well done. How do you like that TT block? Does anyone know how well those perform over a DD TDX?

[Mr.Guvernment]

:d tanks alot swat - :D

the TT block does well , well, better now that i had taken out my mobo and reseated it - the temps i get are about right on with reviews of it - in my area on a hot day i am itting around 52C now under full load dual folding @home - and when it gets hot here it is about 30C with no wind.

from all the reviews i saw - the TT was with in 1-3C diff or the same as a TDX and other blocks - i am only using 2 connections on it - but will be using 3 as soon as my other barbs arrive - this may help temps alot.

[Mr.Guvernment]

hehe, no wonder i was gettign 50C on my pressy @ 3.7ghz - the 120mm fan i got on the rad runs @ 1220RPM..lol


time to order @ least a 2k RPM 120mm fan.

[Swatdog]

hehe, no wonder i was gettign 50C on my pressy @ 3.7ghz - the 120mm fan i got on the rad runs @ 1220RPM..lol


time to order @ least a 2k RPM 120mm fan.

50C Load?

[Mr.Guvernment]

yeah :( - @ night when it is cooler it is more around 48-49C now under full load @ 3.7GHZ stock voltage

but i want lowerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


purdy new WB on the way for my x800 XT :D

http://www.dangerdenstore.com/files/images/blocks/m4gpu/chrome/chrome_100.jpg


Danger den maze 4 chrome edition :D

[Swatdog]

purdy new WB on the way for my x800 XT :D

http://www.dangerdenstore.com/files/images/blocks/m4gpu/chrome/chrome_100.jpg


Danger den maze 4 chrome edition :D

Sweet! What type of rad/pump do you have again? And what kind of fans?

[Swatdog]

Also, how much sound dampening material did you have to order? How many kits?

[Mr.Guvernment]

i have an enheim 1250 and a PRO 120 kit from dtek-customs.com


as for the material i ordered 2 of the

http://www.frozencpu.com/noi-02.html

it was more then enough i was able to do 2 systems - my stacker only used maybe 3/4 of 1 orders worth.

[Captain Slug]

well the idea of BTX is to have better air flow - since the CPU is lower in the case it is open to cooler temps compred to the top of the case since heat rises.

Heat only rises under relatively static airflow. In a closed environment of controlled ventilation the effect is negated.

Lowering the CPU location in the case does allow you to run shorter hose lengths from a low-mounted pump. That's the only tangible benefit I can think of.

[Swatdog]

Heat only rises under relatively static airflow. In a closed environment of controlled ventilation the effect is negated.

Lowering the CPU location in the case does allow you to run shorter hose lengths from a low-mounted pump. That's the only tangible benefit I can think of.

Plus it just looks cool! :)

[Mr.Guvernment]

Heat only rises under relatively static airflow. In a closed environment of controlled ventilation the effect is negated.

Lowering the CPU location in the case does allow you to run shorter hose lengths from a low-mounted pump. That's the only tangible benefit I can think of.


smarty pants :p

it is true - my hose length is shorter, sort of :D - once i get my vid card block then i will have more hose :)

and it definetly looks cool - i guess cause it looks a little different then most cases :D

[Mr.Guvernment]

well my baby could be going on the market for sale, unfortuantly since i am costa rica it will have to go to someone in this country since shipping out is a joke.

i guess i am going through a change in life where i am sick of doing nothign but playing video games for hours on end instead of other thigns, and since i got my hernia operation i can actually now do things with out worry.

Shall let you all know if it stays or goes. - If it goes @ the price i am asking i am sure i could build a new system to hold me ove r:D

[GerrFel]

Well it's an amazing job. I love reading these logs. I learn so much from them each time! Awsome contribution dude!

[Mr.Guvernment]

Your welcome and thanks,

i can 2nd the logs - i love reading peoples progress on building a system - you just learn and get to see so much about it, things you dont find in reviews and such, they can be very helpful.

[crb806]

what type of cdrom/dvdrom do you have it looks like it matches the mesh slots nicely, i just ordered my stacker and other parts, picking out my dvd/cdrom now...

[Mr.Guvernment]

nothing special, just a 48x NE cdburner - i tink any black cd/dvd drive will do the trick

i would suggst a NEC 3520A DVD burner if that is an option.Awsome burner.

[crb806]

yeah NEC is probably what ill do... just wanted things to match if at all possible, btw that is one awesome system you have there :clap:

just wondering this... did you order your stacker from newegg?

[Mr.Guvernment]

:d thank you.

Yes, i got it from newegg back when they would ship to me - if u dont get it there check out directron.com they have all the accessories for the case aswell - more drive cases / window side panel / motherboard cooler as well :D

[crb806]

Newegg has wierd screenshots...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Submit=Go&DEPA=0&type=&description=cooler+master+stacker&Category=0&minPrice=&maxPrice=&Go.x=0&Go.y=0
the one you ordered is the second one, right? the first one, i think is suppose to be black but in some of the screen shots it isnt, kinda confused me lol

[Mr.Guvernment]

i have the "grey" one

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811119042

[Mr.Guvernment]

the baby boi blue has been sold! to a lucky person in our company - $2300 US, nice return for a used computer :D

[shard]

so when are you going to do your next project?

[Mr.Guvernment]

lol
well right now the lpatop is my concern, but it seems it may be a lsot cause at the moment due to limitations on space in the laptop it's self, i havent given up all hope.

may be on hold for a few months, could be buying a house so most money will go into that a the moment and a new professioanl digital SLR camera since i just sold my digital rebel

but i know FOR sure i will build another gaming rig and maybe this time i will actually do something a little more creative with it then stick some lights on it..lol - maybe use the stacker II when it comes out :D

[Mr.Guvernment]

system sold for $2300 US! now to try and resist the temptation of building a new one - @ least until all these new vid cards come out and dual core matures :D

[fuzzba11]

Pura Vida!! That's one hell of a beautiful case, makes me want a stacker reeeeaaaal bad for my watercooling setup to-be.

[Mr.Guvernment]

hehe, they are DEFINETLY worth it for the room you get! well worth the price and it is a very solid case.

[Vulcan]

Can you post a good picture of your desk? It looks like an awesome desk. I wish I had room for something like that.

I'm liking the dual power supplies.

[Mr.Guvernment]

:) would love to but no longer have my digital camera, will try to find a picture of it i am sure i got one somewhere!

[Nickj119]

Nice case, bud!

I'm buying that case tomorrow...I swear! Along with the nVidia 7800 and a 3.2ghz stock processor.

[Mr.Guvernment]

very nice! get some pics for sure of it!