samsung tccc/tccd chip??anyone

[flapperhead]

does anyone have some3200-4000 with these samsung chips.. the whole serial number is kh4560838f-tccd or maybe tccc. im thinking they are gonna be good latency chips.. as we know the corsair 2.2.2 has the samsung ccd version and they run low latencies.. looked around and found plenty with the tccc but no tccd. im thinking they were probably used in the samsung pc4000 as anandech has stated in their corsair review. if anyone does have any i was wondering if they could do some overclocking to see how they respond to latencies voltage etc. hopefully this will be another pool of chips we can draw from.. flapper

[Diablo23RD]

I looked at Newegg have many of -TCCC. I got a pair of Buffalo PC3200 with -TCCC chips for my customer and I tried them in single channel and the max they can reach 240 2.5 3 3 7 @ 3V on epox 4PEA+ (2:3). I cant go higher because the limited of the mobo, i cant change the timing go higher than that, and system locked if I change to lower timing. I dont know they can go higher or not. I still have the screen shot of them but i cant post it up here. PM me if u want take a look.

[Reefa_Madness]

flapper,

A few more months and these chips will be the subject of the next great "look what I found in KVR at BB!" thread. Or at least I hope so. Sooner or later, it seems all the great chips make it down to kvr at bb. So far...bh-5/bh-6/bt-d43/MT-5B C. Those are just the ones that come to mind, probably some ch-5, too.

[flapperhead]

yep. im being a little more cautious, cause i dont want anyone to jump out and buy them right away for their overclocking value ,cause i dont really know what they are capable of..
diablo 240 @ 2.5.3.3.7 aint bad for this stuff maybe we will find some gems...


here a little memory overclocking table,. one guy got 366 mhz on 2.88 VOLTS so we ,may have some gems mixed up with the modules
http://www.biwa.ne.jp/~yok/Memory-OC.htm

[Diablo23RD]

Last time i went to Fry's I saw Mushkin PC4000 512 for $116 (around under $120), I think Mushkin using -TCCC chips for that stick, Newegg have it for $179. All the -TCCC stick I looked at newegg rate cas latency @ 3.

Should I go to Fry's buy them and open it up and return? :p

[flapperhead]

Last time i went to Fry's I saw Mushkin PC4000 512 for $116 (around under $120), I think Mushkin using -TCCC chips for that stick, Newegg have it for $179. All the -TCCC stick I looked at newegg rate cas latency @ 3.

Should I go to Fry's buy them and open it up and return? :p


i think we all probably have done something along those lines. but it really isnt fair to the company and their customers. i bought some shikaxram for 182.oo to test out. when im finished ill probably be lucky to get 120.00. but its the right thing to do, rather than return it. btw i saw some pc4600 bm's with the adata pc4600 and it seems they are using these samsung chips, so it may be some really screaming memory

[vidgion]

do yourself a favor and search the forums for tccc ;)

[mrspec3]

I'm looking :D

[CandymanCan]

Tccc sammy dont get very high latency's. They also dont overclock very high either. As for TCCD im unsure because im dont with Samsung and Got my Pc4200 Adata in today

[HousERaT]

I know this is an old thread but I thought I'd add on anyway..... just took the headspreader of my simpletech nitro pc3500 - Samsung TCCC.... this ram doesn't overclock well and the best timings I can get are 3-3-3-11. highest stable overclock was 225MHz.

[flapperhead]

I know this is an old thread but I thought I'd add on anyway..... just took the headspreader of my simpletech nitro pc3500 - Samsung TCCC.... this ram doesn't overclock well and the best timings I can get are 3-3-3-11. highest stable overclock was 225MHz.

interesting thnx...

[Clevor]

I tried some Buffalo PC3200 with pretty late (0415 I think) TCCC. It did 255, 3-3-3-5 @ 2.8 volts. Semi EB performance actually. But it would not run CAS 2 no matter what, at any spec. It also would not run 5:4 whatsoever, nor did more voltage help.

It's really time for Samsung to rise from the ashes, as mT is doing. Hell, I remember the time 'Winbond' elicited the same reaction as 'Nanya' now. Hey, who knows?

[woutertal]

I have Corsair TwinX XMS 2 x 512 MB platinum CL 2225 with Samsung TCCD chips. Right now at 230 FSB 1:1 with 2.5-3-3-7 GAT AAAAA Vdimm 2.9V. I can almost get stable with 2-2-2-5 timings GAT ANADD at 3.0 Vdimm.

Here are some interesting tests:

http://www.cooltechzone.com/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=479&Itemid=0&limit=1&limitstart=2

http://www.fastlanehw.com/reviews.php?i=126&page=3

Does anyone else have some info to share on these? Next week I will receive my SL7KC 3.2E DO stepping, and I will be running higher FSB's with this ram. I hope to be able to get to 250 FSB 1:1 :eek:

[Jess1313]

here a little memory overclocking table,. one guy got 366 mhz on 2.88 VOLTS so we ,may have some gems mixed up with the modules
http://www.biwa.ne.jp/~yok/Memory-OC.htm

yes this is quiet good, just beware this is A64, and he is using a half multi, so even though CPU-Z shows ram @1:1, CPU-Z doesnt know what its doing w/ a64 and ram ratios:), in that pic (the 366 one) his ram is at 5.5/6 . this is still by no means bad though, its still 335mhz :burn: , dont get me wronge, if i could get 335 1:1 i would be all over it:), just dont let A64 fool you. i also noticed that alot of the other picks w/ A64 were also using half multi, yeilding slightly misleading results

the 4th guy down (349mhz)(TCCD) using a64 have valid results:)(5xmulit)... :attn:
as well 5th place (347mhz)(TCCD) w/ a64 using 6x multi is valid

these are accually better that the other guy....

[Clevor]

I tried some Buffalo PC3200 with pretty late (0415 I think) TCCC. It did 255, 3-3-3-5 @ 2.8 volts. Semi EB performance actually. But it would not run CAS 2 no matter what, at any spec. It also would not run 5:4 whatsoever, nor did more voltage help.

Checking my notes, it actually needed 3.1 volts to do this.

[mattspalace]

My 3200XL does the following:

2-2-2-5 clocks = 220FSB
2.5-3-3-7 clocks = 250FSB
3-4-4-8 clocks = 265FSB

[AudiMan]

These brands supposedly use the TCCD's:

Kingston HyperX 3200UL
Corsair XMS3200XL
OCZ PC3200 Platinum Rev2
Mushkin PC3200 Black LVL2 v2
Geil PC3200 Ultra-X

According to this forum at least:
http://www.i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=37

[Diablo23RD]

I looked at Newegg have many of -TCCC. I got a pair of Buffalo PC3200 with -TCCC chips for my customer and I tried them in single channel and the max they can reach 240 2.5 3 3 7 @ 3V on epox 4PEA+ (2:3). I cant go higher because the limited of the mobo, i cant change the timing go higher than that, and system locked if I change to lower timing. I dont know they can go higher or not.

here the screen shot!

[AudiMan]

Umm,, I don't think I can believe my eyes.

[woutertal]

My 3200XL does the following:

2-2-2-5 clocks = 220FSB
2.5-3-3-7 clocks = 250FSB
3-4-4-8 clocks = 265FSB


Hehe mattspalace is that xl pro or the pt version? The reason I'm asking is that some people pretend that the pro version clocks higher? Mine does 220 only at 2-3-2-6 timings at stock, and 2-2-2-5 at 3.0V

[mattspalace]

Mine is the XL PT, not the Pro.

[woutertal]

Mine is the XL PT, not the Pro.


so we do have the same sticks.. D'you mind telling me what Vdimm You use for 2-2-2-5 @ 22 FSB and 2.5-3-3-7 @ 250 FSB? Thanks :cool:

[Valk]

This thread really makes me think i could get some decent results with the cheapy sammy 512mb pc 3200 i can go get from boomers for $105 cdn. which is good... i dont want to spend a lot of money on ram he he. wonder how long it will be untill we see the tccd revision in samsung ram.

[BigStan]

so we do have the same sticks.. D'you mind telling me what Vdimm You use for 2-2-2-5 @ 22 FSB and 2.5-3-3-7 @ 250 FSB? Thanks :cool:
I would be interested in knowing what Vdimm he was using for 2,2,2,5 at 220 also. Mine fail Prime at all voltages at those settings.

For 2.5,3,3,7 @ 250fsb, I can run them all day at 2.8v.

Here is some testing I did on this mem a while back

http://forum.abit-usa.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=53474&highlight=3200xl

[woutertal]

Hey Bigstan tks for the link and the testing. That sure looks a lot like what I have been finding.. not too much sensitivity for increased voltage. It seems to like 2.8 and 2.9 settings. :cool:

[BigStan]

Hey Bigstan tks for the link and the testing. That sure looks a lot like what I have been finding.. not too much sensitivity for increased voltage. It seems to like 2.8 and 2.9 settings. :cool:
It's sweet spot is 2.8~2.9v. I can get it to 260fsb, but I have to jump from 2.9v to 3.2v and put a fan on them to do it.

[woutertal]

It's sweet spot is 2.8~2.9v. I can get it to 260fsb, but I have to jump from 2.9v to 3.2v and put a fan on them to do it.


Yeah the heat generated at 3.2V makes you wonder if it's a good OC for running 24/7. I'll be happy if I get mine to run 250 FSB 1:1, I really think that this is nice ram. I have never used anything better.

It looks as if the stories about the pro version being specially picked sticks, and faster than pt or bk, is nonsense. :santa: I feel better now..

Quick Q: Have you removed the heatspreaders?

[BigStan]

I don't run them 24/7 at at 260~3.2v. I just do occassional benchmarking. I run them at 255~2.9v. Solid as a rock.

I don't think there is any differencs between pro and the other except for the LED heatspreaders. Most I've seen run between 255~260. I've seen a couple of reports of ppl getting 265, but they didn't post any screen shots or benchies. So ya never know.

No I haven't removed the heatspreaders. They are running so well, I didn't want to take a chance of f***ing them up.

I have some of these coming this week. It will be interesting to see how they compare. They are supposed to be made with the new Hynix D5 chips.

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-146-843&depa=1