Building a water cooling setup...

Sp1k3 · Aug 1, 2004

Im thinking about getting a water cooling setup rather than fans, since i was going to use a tornado or 2. and was worried about the sound (since i sleep with my computer in my room). I was wondering if you guys would recommend a kit over just picking the parts out by hand for a new comer to water cooling. Im still kinda scared of the idea of having water near my computer. but i have read a couple of threads saying that water goto on my vcard and it didnt damage it. so i am wondering how all that works. any pumps resovoirs... etc things you guys would reccomend for me? Thanks

Icebl@ster · Aug 1, 2004

Make your own.Its alot easy to recommend things when we know what you want to cool and how much money u are willing to spend.

Ancient_1 · Aug 1, 2004

If you want a kit here is the one I would suggest.

http://www.swiftnets.com/products/H20-120-1.asp

Sp1k3 · Aug 1, 2004

lol i forgot about that. im getting a p4c800deluxe-e or whatever. and a 2.4c. some dual channel 512x2 mushkin level 1. and im willing to pay for no more than 250$ I want a vga cooler, and a nb cooler (of course). but i noticed that not very many kits offer the nb cooler in the standard packy. which kinda makes it more of a hassle than its worth. Thanks

rogerdugans · Aug 1, 2004

There are a lot of ways to go about water cooling and some of them are IMO a waste of time.

Waste #1:
Buying the best of high performance parts when what you want most is quiet- heavy overclocking is not involved in the system.

#2:
Getting a kit or pre-made system when you WANT to maximixe the overclock you get and don't really care about noise level.

#3:
Buying something "easy" before you really even know what YOU want.

The first thing to decide about is overclocking- there are no pre-made kits that will get you MAX overclock like a DIY setup with a rheobus (to reduce noise when needed.)

If overclocking is not the big issue but noise level is, then you are faced with another choice:
Kits cost more and are easier to install but give lesser performance as a rule.
Do It Yourself is cheaper- or for the same money gets you more stuff and better performance.

YOU have to set your priorities first if you really want to get your money's worth, IMO.

What a jerk I am, eh? Making you work and didn't even post about a single component, lol.

But seriously, there are a lot of options and not a single one is suitable for EVERY situation.

Sp1k3 · Aug 1, 2004

ok i am wanting really nice oc. like as best as i can possible. and sound is somehwat of an issue. no louder than 30dba. which i guess might be loud for what cooling. but i dont know, (being that im new to water coolin).thanks

Icebl@ster · Aug 1, 2004

goto http://www.dtekcustoms.com and www.dangerden.com and http://www.swiftnets.com/ are good sites. Another person just recently posted this one http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=311913 and went alittle over your price and had a nice setup.You could look off his and change to your likings

Sp1k3 · Aug 1, 2004

ok thanks

rogerdugans · Aug 1, 2004

Sp1k3 said:
ok i am wanting really nice oc. like as best as i can possible. and sound is somehwat of an issue. no louder than 30dba. which i guess might be loud for what cooling. but i dont know, (being that im new to water coolin).thanks

The linked thread shows some good ideas and components-

The pump used looks like one of the expensive ones (sorry breezed through without reading much

) but there are less expensive alternatives to meet a budget.

But a thought on Budgeting- I'll suggest a few things, especially since you are going for low noise with a high oc:

start small- rad, fans, pump and cpu block. Don't skimp on these components.

There is a link in Cyber Deals about Sanyo-Denki fans- excellent deal for good fans.
A good pump is worth big money: it can last you for years and through many iterations of the system.
a rad like the fedco 342 (right number guys? memory may be acting up. lol) is a good choice: single pass that fits 2 120mm fans per side- excellent performance.

Get a decent cpu block to go with the above, and some tubing- 1/2" Clearflex (thickwall) is pretty popular stuff- and you are set to go and should be well within your budget.

Add video and northbridge blocks as budget allows.

Sp1k3 · Aug 2, 2004

ok thank i was thinking about getting the white water wb. But im unsure about a pump. and the radiator. i was suggested to get a chevette 87 or something like that i cant really remember. But im kinda unsure about putting that thing in my computer since its for a car

Icebl@ster · Aug 2, 2004

then get a rad from dangerden like a black ice

Sp1k3 · Aug 2, 2004

pump suggestions?

rogerdugans · Aug 2, 2004

Sp1k3 said:
pump suggestions?

I haven't bought a new one in quite a while...the last was an Eheim 1250, and I have gotten a few used Eheims as well.

These units are dependable old standbys, and they do work well and last quite a long time- but there are newer pumps for around the same money that are said to be better.

I think if I were going to buy a brand new pump I would get the MCP600 from Swiftech, but that's me.

I'm sure there will be man other opinions on that choice of parts.

Sp1k3 · Aug 2, 2004

So far im getting the white water wb, the black ice radiator, and a 5.25 drive resovoir. im unsure about the MCP600, its pretty expensive. but what do i know

i mean ill pay the money if its worth it.

Shootingblanks · Aug 2, 2004

I would build your own custom watercooling kit as opposed to a kit. Better performance. go to procooling.com for research. I'm in the process of saving up for a custom system. I plan on going with Danger Den TDX with nozzle 4, DD Maze 4 GPU, Danger Den 12V pump, DD clear resorvoir, 77' Bonneville heatercore with 2 120 mm fans mounted on it with a custom shroud. Suggest using push/pull technique to get close to ambient temps. If you plan on a nb cooler you can expect a few degrees higher in temps in the loop. You can build an external case if all these components willnt fit. 3/4 angle alluminum and pop rivets is good material to construct this. here is my link on my current build...
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=308031

tricknasty · Aug 2, 2004

definetly build your own kit, i made the mistake of getting a water-cooled koolance case, and while it keeps my cpu cool, i hate it cuz the tubing is small as hell and the performance is just not what i want. im in currrently creating a custom kit that will cool my cpu and video card. all those fans get a lil noisy =P

Icebl@ster · Aug 3, 2004

dame that is a messy case

trip0d · Aug 3, 2004

the 5.25 rez have been known to leak at its seams.

corrosion231 · Aug 4, 2004

BE CAREFUL WITH THE NORTHBRIDGE ON AN 8X5 BOARD! Too many threads about the nb core cracking because of those ****ing loops.

lclark2074 · Aug 4, 2004

Sp1k3 said:
ok thank i was thinking about getting the white water wb. But im unsure about a pump. and the radiator. i was suggested to get a chevette 87 or something like that i cant really remember. But im kinda unsure about putting that thing in my computer since its for a car

an 1986 chevette heater core is about 20$ but you will nead to put barbs on it and work beter than black ice a pump you can get from an pet shop.
and i whuld think of putting a water block on NB most of time its overkill

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