The Doom III Technical Support / Tips & Tweaks Thread

[Panzerknacker]

I want to know how to turn on the console, "F:\Games\Doom 3\Doom3.exe" +set_console 1 or something? I wanna know because I just got Doom 3 and I wanna turn on the console so I can use the drawfps command.

[Flashfx2]

To turn on the console you have to press ctrl+alt+`

[Xaeron]

I've read at some other forums that people who got an early release copy of D3 from Best Buy are having problems with their ATi cards. I believe they said they don't have shadows and just overall general graphical glitches. Can anybody confirm this? This will be a real bummer if Doom 3 comes out on Tuesday and when I go to play it the graphics will mess up.

[Panzerknacker]

Sorry but that does not work.

[fartem]

maybe its like Theif 3 , if so then its the drivers and im sure there will be a stable driver out there for it. Lets pray to god

[Drec]

press "~" no quotes

[CandymanCan]

Where did u get D3 from ?

[fartem]

No requesting, some people got it early, and it was Illlegally passed around, sadly. I bought my copy , everyone should too

[Panzerknacker]

Well thanks, it worked indeed.

Discussion of warez is not allowed per forum rules. You should know better by now

[Oni]

I would suggest you edit your post.

You've been here long enough to know that talking about warez is not allowed.

[Oni]

Sound like their having driver issues. I don't think anybody 'round here could help out quite yet, 'cause afaik, nobody here has it yet (and if they do, they're playing it)

[Panzerknacker]

well here at Campzone I've seen the game running on my friend's computers (2 9800 pro's and a X800 Pro) and the game looked awesome on all of them and ran great. I did not see any glitches. I think they were all using the latest drivers.

[AC Slater]

Runs just fine on m 9500

[oso_fast]

i was able to run it fine on my 9600xt..

[Xaeron]

Phew that's great news guys! Thanks for responding.

[delljunks]

yeah i hope not, my ATI is on its way

[David]

I would stop the warez discussion before a mod stops your account here.

That is all.


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[CandymanCan]

Well when i asked where he got it i ment where did he buy it from cuss i cant find it anywhere yet.

[germanjulian]

now that still confused me after installing it....

[ThePerfectCore]

Because Doom3 doesn't use a DirectX8 engine?

I'm just guessing. :p

[dyefade]

Apparently it will use DX9 for sound, input etc, and OpenGL for GFX. Therefore you still need the latest DirectX.

I THINK... don't quote me.

[germanjulian]

ahh makes sense now... for the sound that is... ....... must be

[Panzerknacker]

I would stop the warez discussion before a mod stops your account here.

That is all.

I cannot find a rule I just violated. Very silly how my post was edited by a mod.

[Oni]

You admitted you illegally obtained a copy of a game. That breaks the no warez rule that David layed out so nicely.

[Panzerknacker]

I saw it on an X800 and it didn't really appear to be running well.

Weird, one of my friends ran it on high quality, 1280x 960 and it ran very very good.

[germanjulian]

HELP.

every time there is a cut scene my computer freezes audio and video are totally out of sync. anyone else has this problem

and during gameplay I get sometimes random freezes... but like 5 second ones.

[CandymanCan]

How well does the game run on ur Barton, im wondering my cuss A64 system is outa comission right now im waiting for my friends 8KDA3+ (we traided mobo's) and im getting Doom today @ 7pm at Eb games.

I hope i will be able to play @ 1024x768 reso. I should be able to. My brother is using my Barton pc and it is using the stock HSF so i cant overclock at all only the video card.

[HiProfile]

I have a 1700+@2.2, NFS-7 and 9800p, at medium you have to be worried more about audio desync or an Imp getting too close - once they thwack you, your view [and your body] get tossed around like a ragdoll.

IMO there won't be too many happy people until they make a patch. They seemed to focus more on visual and control innovations rather than solid controls - same "hold ctrl+arrow to straif" as in Doom 2 :( Anyone used to Unreal won't like the basic controls. Trying to keep something in your crosshairs while straifing is IMPOSSIBLE, since you can't rotate while straifing. Maybe I'll get used to it, but ATM its absoluely frustrating. I'd be a much happier camper given the option to change the left/right arrow keys from 'rotate' to 'straif'.

[1-Man-Army]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/nubbynub/shot00004.png
specs are
dell i8600
radeon 9600 trubo 128mb
512mb ram pc-2700
hdd 5400 rpm 40gb 2mb cahce
intel centrino 1.4ghz 1mb l2 cache
btw laptop is not overclocked in any way (errr i dont no why that pic is that small)

1024x768
ultra high quality
4x aa(is that aa or is that af? i forgot its under the game menu)
every thing is on except for vsync
i get about 9-20 fps out side with these settings 20-25 or 30 ish inside
and when i do 1024x768 with high quality no aa i get about 15 to 20 fps out side and hmmm 30-and sumtimes 60, inside not bad eh? (btw its my friends game, he got it from the place he works or sumthing, but we just played it on my laptop) (btw if the mods dont like the pic u can go a head and remove it with out warning i dont mind)
i think this game is pretty smooth even with those low fps on my laptop, but thats just me i dont no about u guys.....
but what i think is every ones gonna be able to run this game pretty nice with these rigs.. but we havent tried it on my good rig maybe sum other time.

[L>MS]

I hope everyone talking about it bought the game in a legal manner. Or else I wish massive death by dolphin feeding accident epidemics on all of you. Thrice.

[Slimmy]

I wish i had a best buy here... :cry:

[Drec]

Umm i dont think the problem was with ATi cards...it wwas with Nvidia FX cards annd the drivers, but since the game is out legally now im sure its fixed. and nvidia is fast to put out driver updates so shouldent be a problem.

[Nero]

I had to clock my 9800's core clock down to 400 from 412 to get D3 to run artifact-free. This is the *only* game I've played (or benched) with my 9800 where such measures are necessary.

[bigswede2]

I've got loads of saved screenshots in doom 3 but i cant open them does anybody know how to?

[ssprncvegeta]

program called irFan View is your friend.

[bigswede2]

I have a x800 pro and a fx53 with 1024mb mem and the game flys 1200x1600 ultra high settings and no problems at all and the game is f****g brilliant you'll be jumping out of your chair like a 5year old watching a horror movie.

[sagitta85]

I have a x800 pro and a fx53 with 1024mb mem and the game flys 1200x1600 ultra high settings and no problems at all and the game is f****g brilliant you'll be jumping out of your chair like a 5year old watching a horror movie.

Ultra high? How? You have to have a 512MB video card to do that.

[Drec]

Ultra high? How? You have to have a 512MB video card to do that.

you dont HAVTO, they just said its ideal to run at ultra high, and 256MB card maybe choppy with ultra high because its going to havta use to some virtual memory as video memory.

[bigswede2]

i have ultrahigh settings it works fine no choppyness I have some great screen shots but dont know how to post them.

[deathman20]

Hmmm I should try ultra high settings once :)

BTW whats in my sig is what I run my comp at right now. It runs perfectly find on 1280x1024 without any issues what so ever. Don't even have AA or AF on and looks great then again hey if it works good why put it on to slow it down :) Running on a 17" NEC LCD monitor.

[tylerhskate]

I dont have anything oced except cpu @ stock fsb so thats not a prob there, but when i get into the elevator to go to a diff part of the level or whatever i get one of those windows errors that come up saying send or dont send (you know the ones) and the game crashes and i have to open it up again to play :[.

[Nero]

Ultra high? How? You have to have a 512MB video card to do that.

I'm about 4 hours into the game, and I've been playing it on High Quality the whole time on my 128MB 9800. No problems with hiccuping, stuttering, or any massive drops in FPS that can be attributed to lack of video memory. I won't be surprised if sooner or later I do experience problems, but so far so good.

[CandymanCan]

The game isnt that scary as people mentioned i havent been jumping outa my chair and like 2 hours into the game now. I just met tho 3 eyed things with like 5 legs after looking at the guy pinned to the ceiling.

Those Tentacle things growing in the mars base look so freakin real. As for the story line so far its alot like Half life 1,

[CandymanCan]

? I took like 50 pics but cant seem to find where they are located

[eXCeSS]

\doom\doc\screenshots

that where i think they were, i dont have the game so i may be wrong, theyre tga files, do dl irfanview to convert to jpeg

[CandymanCan]

Iknow i use Irfan view all the time :D. I dont see pics in the Doom3 folder grr all those awsome pics i took. Does Prntscrn even take pics ?


How do i take pics and where are thye could someone who knows please tell me.

[plague]

They go in Doom 3\base\screenshots, and yes, they're .tga files.

[DMac]

The print screen button usually works and just copies the pics to the clipbaord. So you can just open up Paint or some other graphics editing program and paste them, then save them. That's what I always do. You also use Fraps.

[zoomzoom]

Hi my doom 3 keeps crashing works ok for about 5 to 10 min then all of a sudden bang just goes straight back to windows. im only playing at 640 x 480 i got no idea pls help

p4 2.6 800fsb
1 gig adata pc3200
9600 powercolor
36 gig wd raptor

[UndyingClocker]

Sorry to bother u guys but im having a little trouble. Is their anyway i can use my flash light while holding a weapon?? switching is ok i guess but it gets so dark sometimes and i cant see what im shooting.

[Panzerknacker]

Iknow i use Irfan view all the time :D. I dont see pics in the Doom3 folder grr all those awsome pics i took. Does Prntscrn even take pics ?


How do i take pics and where are thye could someone who knows please tell me.

In Doom 3, u can take screenshots with the F12 key, they are saved in Doom 3/base/screenshots


I've read about the 'give doom95' command everywhere. It should allow u to play the original doom. But when I use the command nothing special happens, in the menu nothing happens and ingame the console says something like unknown item added to inventory. Anyone knows how this should work?

[Indyxc1]

I'm having a problem with the menu resolution. If I set the game quality to anything over low, the menu resolution gets really bad, and I can barely read it.

Anyone else have this problem?

[roll+call]

my problem:
have the 9800pro @ stock (378/338), core @ 225x11=2475 (overlook sig)
settings: 1024x768 medium, 4xAA, all advanced on including vsync
fps dips to ~22 at lowest. typically ~45

anyway, problem is i get these odd "lines" on the screen. hard to explain. not so much lines... looks like the image splitting.
read somewhere vsync on should fix it. not much of a difference.
installed the new cat drivers recently, could that be causing the problem?

[Jarlaxe]

Um, I'm playing on Ultra High, 1280x1024, 2x aa, 4x ani, vertical sync on, and the game never drops below 30fps. This is on a 128mb 6800nu. So that whole thing with 512 is a marketing scam, for you to buy Nvidia's newest 512 cards. Btw i get like 1 hiccup every 10 minutes, which is fine by me.

[Salomon Orangge]

Hmmm... no. I'm running at Ultra quality and my menus are clear as a bell.

[ConquereR]

My doom 3 crashes to my desktop in multiplayer and at certain points in single player...it crashes in single player at the same spot everytime...anyone know whats causing this?

[theELVISCERATOR]

I'm having a problem with the menu resolution. If I set the game quality to anything over low, the menu resolution gets really bad, and I can barely read it.

Anyone else have this problem?


make sure your sliders are on quality not performance in open gl panel..

[ConquereR]

i use direct 3d

[kyleboy77]

I have some nasty artifacts in Doom3 ... I have a radeon 9800 pro 128 meg, athlon 3000+, 512meg corsair xms pc3200 ram, Sound Blaster audigy2, and an asus a7n8x-e deluxe. The gaphics drivers I am running are the catalyst 4.7's so what is my problem..... also while I am walking I hear a clicking sound, is that normal?

[Indyxc1]

make sure your sliders are on quality not performance in open gl panel..


Thanks man. That worked.

[ShortCircuit2]

also while I am walking I hear a clicking sound, is that normal?

This is my problem too! I absolutely cannot play the game with all this clicking going on, I am on an SBLive 5.1, and I was about to go buy a new sound card, but it looks like you are having the same problem with an Audigy.

[Remove]

I just installed and when I went to play I recieved this error messgae "CD/DVD Emulation Software has been detected."

I went to the support site and it showed how to disable the only software like that that I had which was clone cd. I went ahead and unistalled it but to no avail. I tried every other suggestion on that page but still get the same error message. This is driving me insane. Can anyone help?

[ashenfang]

If you are having problems with image tearing....

Make sure openGL is set to application preference
Make sure Vsync is on in the game.

I was having this issue. As soon as I turned on Vsync the problems with image tearing went away.

[UndyingClocker]

I think the doom95 command lets u play doom95 on ur PDA.

[theELVISCERATOR]

I just installed and when I went to play I recieved this error messgae "CD/DVD Emulation Software has been detected."

I went to the support site and it showed how to disable the only software like that that I had which was clone cd. I went ahead and unistalled it but to no avail. I tried every other suggestion on that page but still get the same error message. This is driving me insane. Can anyone help?


I had same damn issue sux too..i uninstalled clone cd and the virtual drive program rebooted and it finally worked....

disable dont do diddly...

[stryder2720]

Ok I recieved my copy at 12pm today via Fedex. I CANT PLAY MULTIPLAYER ARGGGGGG! I hit the get list button and nothing happens. Ive checked everything twice and nothing worked. When I hit the multiplayer button sometimes I will get about 10 server that come up but then I hit refresh or get list and they all go away and nothing comes up. Please Help.
NVM problem solved..darn router :temper:

[OC Noob]

I'm having a problem with the menu resolution. If I set the game quality to anything over low, the menu resolution gets really bad, and I can barely read it.

Anyone else have this problem?


make sure your sliders are on quality not performance in open gl panel..


I had the same thing and sure as poop that solved it.

Thanks Elvi

[Flashfx2]

For those of you with clicking sound do either of you have a nforce 2 board? When I installed the lastest nforce mobo drivers I would get audio problems. I reinstalled older ones, it was either the 2.xx version or 3.xx version and it fixed the problem.

[Remove]

For the emulation error message delete registry value 'HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Cur rentVersion\Run\CloneCDTray

[aldamon]

I'm experiencing crashing when I use quicksave. It doesn't happen all of the time, but when it does happen, my quicksave is corrupted. I just finished building my new rig, so it was probably premature to toss Doom 3 on it, but I thought I'd ask anyway.

[Dragonprince]

My doom 3 crashes to my desktop in multiplayer and at certain points in single player...it crashes in single player at the same spot everytime...anyone know whats causing this?

Bad OC, not enough voltage to something, or your ram timings are to tight...

[Dragonprince]

Ok I recieved my copy at 12pm today via Fedex. I CANT PLAY MULTIPLAYER ARGGGGGG! I hit the get list button and nothing happens. Ive checked everything twice and nothing worked. When I hit the multiplayer button sometimes I will get about 10 server that come up but then I hit refresh or get list and they all go away and nothing comes up. Please Help.

You on dial-up ? The read me file states specificaly that broadband is required.

[kyleboy77]

so flashfx2 which driver version was it that fixed it and did it fix it for onboard audio or a seperate card... cuz I have the audigy2

[kyleboy77]

also I have dameon tools installed on my comp witout any problems

[ShortCircuit2]

I have the clicking sound, and I am not sure whether this is related or not, but on the first level, it gives me a warning saying that it could not load guisounds.wav so it will use default

[F4]

I find the game freezes a lot. Works for a little while, then just hangs and I have to Kill the Process. Anyone else having similar issues?

[Flashfx2]

I'm using drivers version 3.13 and there is no sound corrupt with the onboard nforce sound card.

[iLLestOne]

I find the game freezes a lot. Works for a little while, then just hangs and I have to Kill the Process. Anyone else having similar issues?
Is you OC prime stable? 3dmark2003 stable? That's probally your problem...

BTW, runs great on my system (in sig) 1024x768, no aa 8af. I don't have time to mess with it tonite, but I must say having aa on would be nice. Some of the edges are not so pretty.

I'll have to try some 2xaa w/ temporal aa tomorrow :)

[F4]

Is you OC prime stable? 3dmark2003 stable? That's probally your problem...

BTW, runs great on my system (in sig) 1024x768, no aa 8af. I don't have time to mess with it tonite, but I must say having aa on would be nice. Some of the edges are not so pretty.

I'll have to try some 2xaa w/ temporal aa tomorrow :)

Even at stock I'm having issues. Sometime it freezes, sometimes it kicks me back to windows. Happening about every 30 minutes or so. Just often enough to be frustrating.

[ShortCircuit2]

I just tried the 2.xx something drivers and the 3.13 drivers, and neither fixes the crackling sound, yes i am using onboard audio also

[theELVISCERATOR]

I find the game freezes a lot. Works for a little while, then just hangs and I have to Kill the Process. Anyone else having similar issues?

nope game is remarkably bug free..

[TsZarathstra]

I got my copy at around 4:30 from Best Buy. Got it home, it installed just fine, but when I tried to run the game, it refused to recognize the cd. I had talked to a friend of mine earlier and he had the exact same problem. I had heard about this retarded "no cd burning software" thing, so I uninstalled everything I could think of, to no avail. I called the customer service line, and the guy told me to install manually, that didn't work either. Went back to Best Buy, exchanged my copy for another one, got home the EXACT SAME THING happened again. The tech support guy verfied that I had all the correct drivers and such, and mentioned that they might be having trouble with their cds. I still haven't managed to play the stupid game!

[amanojyaku]

I find the game freezes a lot. Works for a little while, then just hangs and I have to Kill the Process. Anyone else having similar issues?

i am having that same problem it plays very good but then like every 10 min it freezes and i have to restart the program or my comp. help on this topic would be greatly appreciated.

[theELVISCERATOR]

i am having that same problem it plays very good but then like every 10 min it freezes and i have to restart the program or my comp. help on this topic would be greatly appreciated.


drop your vid card oc to stock ...for starters see if it goes away..prob overheating..

[Enemy Down!]

have a wierd problem here. i just a geforce 6800 non-pro and doom 3.

problem is that no matter what the graphics settings are, i still get the same fps! i mean, on low detail, and at any resolution, i still only manage to get the same fps in the very begining when you are looking at the hovering ship, or just walking around. and even on the high settings with any resolution i get the same damn fps!

my system is in my sig below, but i have a 6800 card instead of the old ti4600.

can someone shed some light? i mean, if it continues, i will just keep it at high settings with 1600x1200 resolution since lower settings dont increase my fps.

the only thing that affected the fps was putting AA to 16x, which made the game unplayable.

anyone else with an SMP try doom 3?

is this a sign of my mp2000+ not being able to hand the game? i realy thought that i would be able to play the game in high settings with high resolution just fine, but apearantly not. i guess i can check my bios and see if the settings favor full agp performance.....

also, anyone know what the highest mp chip i can put in the k7dmaster if i need to upgrade cpu?

[zoomzoom]

hey im having same prob every 10 min or so just kicks me back to windows
if i look under admin tools event view application log there is a message saying Event Type: Error
Event Source:
Event Category: None
Event ID: 0
Date: 8/4/2004
Time: 1:26:09 PM
User:
Computer:
Description:
The description for Event ID ( 0 ) in Source ( ) cannot be found. The local computer may not have the necessary registry information or message DLL files to display messages from a remote computer. The following information is part of the event: 7.
pls help shall i format ? my rig is not overclocked
2.6 northwood
powercolor 9600 pro
1gig pc3200 adata
320w power sup

[germanjulian]

well my lags and freezes every 10 minutes went away after I uninstalled cacheman xp...

bit weird but its all cool now

regarding the cd not working in your drive and your friends :) try another cd drive. it will work.

yes cd protection is totally useless and poo

[TsZarathstra]

regarding the cd not working in your drive and your friends try another cd drive. it will work.

----------------------------

I already tried that, won't work in either my cd/rw or my dvd/rw

[Salomon Orangge]

That's an error with YOUR machine. Not the CDs. My buddy's comp is doing the same thing, so I tried his cd's in my computer and they work just fine.

[Tw00sh]

Saw this over on the beyond3d forum. Might help some people with low frame rates:

Link to post: http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14729

Hmm, i saw this on a car board i frequent when i am at work, yes everyone is talking bout doom. Either way there was a post like this:

"I tried this and Im now runnig at 1280x1024 compared to 800x600 at the same settings.

"As all of you who allready have this game recognized the game is very slow even on new Computers.

I found out the reason for this and the solution to fix this problem.

As you already know after installation the game consits only of the doom3.exe and some .PK4 files. Those PK4 files includes the entire game (sounds, videos, textures etc.) in high compressed form.

Normally those files were decompresse during the game.

But this exactly is the problem. Even new CPUs are not able to decompress those files while running the game with good peformance and therfore the game runs very **** also on new computers. I don't know if the develpers of ID-Soft was just too stupid to think about this or if they have an agreement with some hardware manufacturing firms.

How to get around this problem:

It is very simple. Go to your Doom 3 installation directoy and get inside the folder "Base". There are some .PK4 files you have to open each of them with WinRAR 3.3 and extract their entire contents to the Base dir in you Doom 3 installation folder (replace all files if they are any duplicates). Now you have to delete all .PK4 files in the Base folder to prevent the game to use those compressed files agian.

Now the game starts and runs mutch faster!!!

Have fun playing Doom 3!!! "


then followed with this

This is a guarenteed way to get a MASSIVE performance increase to your game, at the expense of taking up a little more hard drive space (2 gigs approx). I went from running low quality at 800x600 to running High Quality on 1024x768. This improves load times AND framerate/details.

There is a catch! By doing this, you temporarily can't connect to pure multiplayer servers. You have been warned (I'll tell you how to revert it at the end)

After installation, the Doom III Folder consists only of the doom3.exe and some .PK4 files. Those PK4 files includes the entire game (sounds, videos, textures etc.) compressed. They are normally uncompressed in mid game, which is very hard on your CPU. Lets fix this!

1. Make a copy of ALL the files in C:\Program Files\Doom 3\base. This is some big filage, but if you want to revert to MP without reinstalling you need to do it.

2. Unrar the following .pk4 files (just pretend they are .rar's and open them with winrar) into the C:\Program Files\Doom 3\base folder (each one should unrar a single folder such as textures or models):

pak000.pk4
pak001.pk4
pak002.pk4
pak003.pk4
pak004.pk4 (This one has many files, put them all in \Base and over right any that apply.

3. Now delete the files above (pak000-004) or move them to another folder for storage so you can revert to multiplayer.

When you want to revert to multiplayer, restore everything you had before and get rid of the new stuff. I'm not sure if the folder "maps" is the same or not, so make sure you back that up.

When in normal mode, you should have "maps" "savegames" "config.spec" "doomConfig.cfg" "doomkey" "game00.pk4" and "gamex86.dll", nothing else.
ALSO! If you open DoomConfig.cfg (C:\programfiles\doom3\base) in notepad and change

seta image_cacheMegs "32"

to a higher number, such as 96 or 128 you will see a big increase too.

I know this will work great for all of you, it has for me!

(NOTE I am not the one that came up with this I am just passing it along!)

[HousERaT]

This is for the newbies like me who are new to the whole console thing.... enjoy.....


http://www.viperlair.com/articles/howto/software/tweakd3/



The RaT

[Panzerknacker]

hm. I will try it, but in any case, that imagemegs tweak did not help 0.1 frame for me :p

EDIT: cool that was my 500th post :D

[Remove]

I got my copy at around 4:30 from Best Buy. Got it home, it installed just fine, but when I tried to run the game, it refused to recognize the cd. I had talked to a friend of mine earlier and he had the exact same problem. I had heard about this retarded "no cd burning software" thing, so I uninstalled everything I could think of, to no avail. I called the customer service line, and the guy told me to install manually, that didn't work either. Went back to Best Buy, exchanged my copy for another one, got home the EXACT SAME THING happened again. The tech support guy verfied that I had all the correct drivers and such, and mentioned that they might be having trouble with their cds. I still haven't managed to play the stupid game!


For the emulation error message delete registry value 'HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Cur rentVersion\Run\CloneCDTray

[iLLestOne]

Damn nice find. It definatly sounds like it will work. I'll have to try it later today.

Also, what do you think I should set "seta image_cacheMegs "32"" at? 128, 256? Any ideas?

[obsolete]

Not entirely sure about doom3, haven't played it yet. But, if you are going to upgrade your CPU's (which I would if it was my main rig/gaming rig) I would find two mobiles & have them modded or find two premodded mobiles (could do it yourself). 2.5ghz duallies would be sooooooo nice. That is probably the highest CPU's you could get in there. They are not MP CPU's but it's the fastest you will ever get on the K7D Master.

[DMac]

Wonder if it will work? Makes sense. That would be great.

[F4]

Check http://www.activision.com/support , they have suggestions for most of the problems people are complaining about here.

I haven't had a chance to try changing my desktop screen resolution to 800x600, so I can't vouch that that'll work.

[fluxcapacitor]

I'm well aware that many Audigy users are getting sound glitches and problems when running Doom 3. I myself run an NForce2 based system, an Abit NF7-S 2.0, w/ the latest Nvidia WHQL system drivers (4.27), and am getting sound issues all over the place. I run it in Soundstorm DD 5.1 mode. Sometimes the sound will completely shut off, sometimes it gets garbled and crackly, and sometimes it never starts w/ the game at all. This is getting very, very annoying when playing D 3. If you experience similiar issues please post here so we can potentially narrow this down.

[Tw00sh]

Here is another tweak I just found over at the [H] forums:

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=787902

If you own a newer NVIDIA card and are running the 61.77 drivers, this might give you a little speed bump depending on your resolution an other settings.

r_useDepthBoundsTest 1

[Salomon Orangge]

Could someone try the above extraction tweak? I'm at work so cannot try now, but I'm interested in seeing if this actually works.

[F4]

I just spent a few minutes trying it, and I noticed some improvement, but not nearly as major as the original post would imply.

[Salomon Orangge]

And you did the .pk4 extraction method?

[TommyHolly]

What is WinRAR? I have never heard of that...

[Tw00sh]

Here is the one listed at the end of the main post:

Suppose to be posted at planetdoom's forums as well.

In your DOOM 3 directory, find "DoomConfig.cfg" (x:\Program Files\Doom 3\base). Open DoomConfig.cfg in Notepad.

Find the line:

seta image_cacheMegs "32"

They are changing it to 128 or 256 depending on the amount of system memory you have.


Most are saying the can up their resolution or qaulity one level after changing this setting.

[DamienKC]

Basically just like Winzip, except it will unpack just about anything, zips, rars, iso's, many others.

[Tw00sh]

What is WinRAR? I have never heard of that

Its just like winzip only it uses the .rar extension. Its free on the web.

[breez]

The .pk4 files are actually normal zip archives. Same was with the quake engines .pk#

[DamienKC]

I just relized something, I can't unpack those files with my -REGISTERED- copy of winrar 3.3... help?

--Damien

[Panzerknacker]

I did some testing on this because it really annoyed me that I would loose around 10 fps if I wanted to run the game with vsync on. I now have a method that gives no tearing WITHOUT vsync.

What u are going to do is running the game at a refresh rate of 85 hertz. U can do this the following way:

Go to ur Doom 3\base folder. Create a new text file and call it 'autoexec.cfg'. Now edit the text file by adding the following command to it:

set r_displayRefresh "85"

Don't forget to save. Now start Doom 3. The game should be running in 85hz mode. Turn off vsync and load a map. In my case, the image tearing was as good as gone, I think it's safe to say that it WAS gone. I ran the timedemo demo1 again and I got exactly as much fps as I got with the game running in 60hz with vsync off. Try for yourself and post how it helped u. Maybe u want to experiment with different refresh rates if u want to go higher than 85 or something.


The Panzerknacker

EDIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've played some more and I concluded that this fix REDUCED the tearing, it did not eliminate it. I did some more testing and it seemed that 140hz was fine as well. 120hz sucked. I keep it at 85 cuz my monitor can't make the image fill the screen at that refresh rate.

[kyleboy77]

Ok so I get the clicking on the Audigy2

[deathman20]

I have an Audigy 2 and it cuts out if I have it in Surround Sound. Makes me mad because the first 2 days of playing it, it was working right with it. But I could care less at the time and still played the game :) I was hooked hehe.

[Salomon Orangge]

copy your serial number, uninstall winrar, reinstall free version.

[DamienKC]

never mind...I just changed the .pk4 to .zip...and it worked...WEIRD.

[Flashfx2]

For those of that really need every fps you can get disable the gun. I did out of curiosity and I got another 3 fps.

[DamienKC]

Now are we supposed to do "extract files" where they all go in one big folder, or "extract here" where the bunches of files are all in that Doom3 folder?

[iLLestOne]

Here is the one listed at the end of the main post:

Suppose to be posted at planetdoom's forums as well.



Most are saying the can up their resolution or qaulity one level after changing this setting.

Is 128 enough, or should we use 256? Is 256 to much or something? Sorry, I would try but I'm working on a take-home final due tomorrow....

[Tw00sh]

Is 128 enough, or should we use 256? Is 256 to much or something? Sorry, I would try but I'm working on a take-home final due tomorrow....

From what I am reading on the other forums, you should be able to use 256 as you have a gig of system memory.

Just try it and see, and if your performance drops, change it to 128 etc ...

[iLLestOne]

Ok, I went to the .cfg file and found some weird things...

seta image_useCache "0" (shouldn't this be 1 for image_cacheMegs to work?)
seta image_cacheMegs "20" (20!!!!! so 256 here instead?)
seta image_cacheMinK "200" (huh)
seta image_usePrecompressedTextures "1" (set to 0 after unzipping those pk4 files?)
seta image_useNormalCompression "0" (set to 1 after unzipping pk4 files?)
seta image_useAllFormats "1" (huh)
seta image_useCompression "1" (huh)

I am just wondering if anyone knows what these setting should be set at?

Thanks in advance :)

[Enemy Down!]

i am not into modding cpu's. do you know the fastet mp that i can put into this?

also, maybe my bios needs an update to operate the 6800 better? dont know if there is a bios update to correct performance issues with newer cards

[Sentential]

Are you using the latest drivers? and have you done a driver removal?

[Enemy Down!]

i have the latest nvidia drivers

[Sentential]

.... what is your FPS? Tell me its not 60.. Cuz ID locked the max FPS at 60.

[Tw00sh]

Humm, not sure on those. Still reading about these settings on other forums.

[Enemy Down!]

it is not 60, although it does hit 60 at times.

the problem is that it drops to the teens during gameplay, especially with other characters in the screen. i thought that it would be smooth throughout, thats why i go the 6800 series card.

the framerate drop is absurd. i mean it is 60 one second, then 12 the next when i look at another, more graphically intense area.

the most irritating thing is that i can be at low settings at the lowest resolution and not really gain any more fps :(

[Tw00sh]

I did some testing on this because it really annoyed me that I would loose around 10 fps if I wanted to run the game with vsync on. I now have a method that gives no tearing WITHOUT vsync.

What u are going to do is running the game at a refresh rate of 85 hertz. U can do this the following way:

Go to ur Doom 3\base folder. Create a new text file and call it 'autoexec.cfg'. Now edit the text file by adding the following command to it:

set r_displayRefresh "85"

Don't forget to save. Now start Doom 3. The game should be running in 85hz mode. Turn off vsync and load a map. In my case, the image tearing was as good as gone, I think it's safe to say that it WAS gone. I ran the timedemo demo1 again and I got exactly as much fps as I got with the game running in 60hz with vsync off. Try for yourself and post how it helped u. Maybe u want to experiment with different refresh rates if u want to go higher than 85 or something.


I read about a similiar tweak, but people were reporting it will default back to 60 when you restart the game. Doom3 will reset the refresh upon exit.

Have you checked to see if it is still 85 when you restart the game?

[iLLestOne]

I read about a similiar tweak, but people were reporting it will default back to 60 when you restart the game. Doom3 will reset the refresh upon exit.

Have you checked to see if it is still 85 when you restart the game?

You SHOULD (correct me if i'm wrong) be able to fix this by clicking "Read only" in the file properties....

I know you do this in CS so that ur spray is never overwritten :)

Also, I use reforce (changes refresh rate in ALL games to whatever you want) and it seems be working fine.

[Drec]

games cant take advantage of dual CPUs....so it really wont offer much of an improvement over a single cpu (unless your encoding a video while aplying D3 :p) i think theres somthing unseen causing this problem...on low settings theirs no way u should be getting bad framerates.

[DamienKC]

I personally didn't see any improvements...maybe that's because my video card sucks =P

[Remove]

Playing w/ 2 x 1900s and a 9800 pro on a K7D with no problems at all.

[Enemy Down!]

remove, does your fps drop into the teens at all?????

i am really glad someone else has played it on their dually, especiall a k7d!

remove, can you also tell me your exact bios settings? i think the problem must lie in that (hope).

[russm]

So... i guess most of the doom 3 posts have to go here?

well i have an actuall problem, i bought doom this morning, installed it, and with disc one in the drive, it says please insert disc one into the drive! bah!, so i tried another cd rom drive, i reinstalled, all sorts of business, i called activision, the guy was pretty cool, he told me i have to send a dx9 diagnostic to there tech support guys, so i did that, and he said that they will send me a patch they have already for the game, plus instructions on fixing my current problem, but no doom until then!
but on the upside i will have the patch before its released to the public

[Panzerknacker]

I read about a similiar tweak, but people were reporting it will default back to 60 when you restart the game. Doom3 will reset the refresh upon exit.

Have you checked to see if it is still 85 when you restart the game?

No, it will stay at 85hz. I restarted the game 5 times and it keeps launching in 85hz.

[iLLestOne]

So... i guess most of the doom 3 posts have to go here?

well i have an actuall problem, i bought doom this morning, installed it, and with disc one in the drive, it says please insert disc one into the drive! bah!, so i tried another cd rom drive, i reinstalled, all sorts of business, i called activision, the guy was pretty cool, he told me i have to send a dx9 diagnostic to there tech support guys, so i did that, and he said that they will send me a patch they have already for the game, plus instructions on fixing my current problem, but no doom until then!
but on the upside i will have the patch before its released to the public

Do you have clonecd or some type of emulator like that? I've heard of people fixing that problem by deleteing the program and the string in regedit.

I had the same problem with another game, and just delelted clonecd and wa-la, it worked :)

[russm]

i am running daemon tools? which can mount cd images and what not, could this be an issue?

[Oni]

Just so you guys know, there is now a large Sticky (http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=318354) at the top of games.

You might wanna check it out :)

[iLLestOne]

I've been searching for awhile now, but haven't found much on these settings

seta image_useCache "0" (shouldn't this be 1 for image_cacheMegs to work?)
seta image_cacheMegs "20" (20!!!!! so 256 here instead?)
seta image_cacheMinK "200" (huh)
seta image_usePrecompressedTextures "1" (set to 0 after unzipping those pk4 files?)
seta image_useNormalCompression "0" (set to 1 after unzipping pk4 files?)
seta image_useAllFormats "1" (huh)
seta image_useCompression "1" (huh)


Anyone found anything worth saring? I've read that setting cachemegs up to 128 or 256 makes a HUGE diff, but am not sure if you need to set UseCache to 1 or just leave it at 0....

help :)

[Busty St. Clair]

that doesn't seem right. the 2000+'s should provide enough power to run at decent frames.

[Dc5e]

i play on my dualy too,

You should startup doom3 again, and use a program to monitor how much your swapping and how much ram you have free.

When i play, i have about 700mb ram free, but once i'm in the game, i believe i only have a little more than 300mb ram free. I also start paging, but i believe it only pages the windows stuff.

[Enemy Down!]

the settings in the bios were way off from what the graphics card manual states they should be. i will change them accordingly and hope this solves the problem. the bios settings were default settings so i dont know if it will work.

but for now it looks like my windows got corrupted to the point that it wont even boot up. so i am re-installing it and will update you guys on what happens when i instal doom 3 again.

but here is some more info; when i ran 3dmark tests, i got 11,000 on 2001, and 7,500 on 2003. with that type of score in the 2003 test, i thought doom 3 should run perfect. but i did not understand why the 2001 test was so low. i thought it should have been like 18,000 or so.

[autoMATTic]

not sure if it helps but did u install DX9?

[PaleFace]

Sound problems Audigy 2 ZS. Surround Sound loss or cracking when selected. If I choose No Surround Sound and go Head Phones it's ok. If anyone has a fix for it. Please post!!

Also, Those of you with Clone CD. Painkiller did the same thing! I'm only using the stand alone Clone CD Virtual Drive to access my Images. I didn't reinstall Clone CD. No problems with Painkiller or Doom 3 running with just Virtual Drive on.

Here is the link to stand alone Clone CD Elby Virtual Drive: http://www.elby.ch/products/clone_dvd/

[Enemy Down!]

yes.


i am almost done re-installing windows. i will keep you updated on what happens when i try out doom 3 again.

this time, instead of simply downloading the newest invidia drivers from the net, i installed the CD that was supplied with the graphics card. it supposedly did a system scan so maybe this will cure the problem.

[Enemy Down!]

well after all said and done, its not much better.

i still get like 13 fps at the start of the game going into a corner and viewing the hover craft.

i would like to know what others' fps is when viewing the hover ship in the very beginning.

dont know what else to do now.

i have a friend with a oc'd 3.12 p4 with a 9800 oc'd to xt and he gets 21 fps while viewing the hover ship.

i thought my setup would be at least as good as his, but apperantly not.


wtf....

[dustybyrd]

i got 11,000 on 2001, and 7,500 on 2003. with that type of score in the 2003 test, i thought doom 3 should run perfect. but i did not understand why the 2001 test was so low. i thought it should have been like 18,000 or so.


3dmark2001 is heavily reliant on CPU power and less dependent on GPU power...

3dmark2003 is much more heavily dependent on GPU power

when i went from a ti4600 to a 9700pro my 3dmark2001 score only went from about 11,000 to 12,000...on a dual 2.4ghz AMD xp

but, my 3dmark2003 score went from about 1800 to about 4600...

[Enemy Down!]

last thing i can think of is downloading the latest drivers and bios update from msi.

i doubt that will work.

is it possible that i have a defective graphics card?

[oc_newbee]

Question, does this game play well on 512mb of memory? I might try this game out. Don't play game much and never play any of the Doom game.

[Enemy Down!]

this is absolutley pathetic!!! i got the latest vga drivers that supposidly supports the 6800 series cards from msi website and still the same crap!

wtf!

WTF!

[Chowdy]

I wonder why it won't let some play off of the hard drives.. the instruction manual says that you can "copy the game to your hard drive" unless that was what was not allowed :-P.

Anyways, the whole "unpacking the RARs" thing actually made me lose performance. No tweaks really do anything (config tweaks). Bah.

[crimedog]

Just wanna throw my experience installing out there:

on my computer it would freeze whenever I installed any of the cds. I replaced my lite-on 52x32x52 drive with a 8x sony dvd drive and it worked fine.

for my brother, the first time we tried installing it we lost the cdrom after cd2 was half done :(

[cmcquistion]

I played it, today, on my dual Barton system, with my old Ti4600. It was smooth, but I couldn't play at high resolutions and get decent FPS. I think I had to settle for 800 x 600 @ Medium Quality.

It was totally stable, though. I was using Omega's latest Nvidia drivers.

As someone else mentioned, the game is locked at 60 FPS and doesn't display higher FPS than that, without some manual editing.

I've been playing for a couple hours, tonight, on my 3.5 GHz P4 & 9800 Pro (w/ Omega Drivers.) Haven't had any problems. I play at 1024 x 768 @ High Quality.

i would like to know what others' fps is when viewing the hover ship in the very beginning...

No offense, but what does it matter what the hover ship looks like? Are your game-playing FPS ok?

Keep in mind that every card has its strengths and weaknesses. Perhaps your card is weak at some piece of code involved in that hover ship, but it might be stronger in several other (more important) ways.

this is absolutley pathetic!!! i got the latest vga drivers that supposidly supports the 6800 series cards from msi website and still the same crap!

wtf!

WTF!

Don't get drivers from MSI. Those will be OLD drivers.

Get your drivers directly from www.nvidia.com or try Omega's modded drivers from www.omegadrivers.net

[Enemy Down!]

i msinly use this test to determine whats going on;

in the very begining of the game, where the hover ship is hovering above, run up to the corner near the exit door, and look at the ship. i get about 13 fps!

what do you guys get????

what confuses me the most is that why the hell do i still get pretty much the same fps looking at that hover ship even with low detail and lowest resolution? ok maybe it jumps to 15-16 fps, but this is still not what i expect.

[Enemy Down!]

i dumped msi's drivers and got the latest nvidia ones and nothing changed.

maybe i am asking too much, but i spent $320 with tax on a video card. and i certainly did not expect crappy frames per second.

the other thing i noticed is that it looks like 512 megs of ram is not enough because there is plenty of pausing so the upcomming area can be loaded into memory.

[cmcquistion]

You might want to also try the Doom3 tweaks mentioned in page 3 of this thread:

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=317568

[cmcquistion]

i dumped msi's drivers and got the latest nvidia ones and nothing changed.

maybe i am asking too much, but i spent $320 with tax on a video card. and i certainly did not expect crappy frames per second.

the other thing i noticed is that it looks like 512 megs of ram is not enough because there is plenty of pausing so the upcomming area can be loaded into memory.

What resolution and quality level are you trying to run? With 512 MB of RAM, you won't be able to run the highest settings. Are you running the Autodetected recommended settings? Those are a good start.

Trying some of the tweaks I linked to, in my previous post, may help your stuttering/swapping problem. I would recommend defragging after those tweaks, though. You'll see why.

[Enemy Down!]

the auto-detect recommends medium settings at 800x600 resolution.

it seems that 512 of ram just isn't enough becuase there is too much pausing to load upcomming rooms.

but i am confused as to why the fps suck. it gets choppy even if there are like 2 other people talking to eachother (before the invasion) and some rooms get choppy as well. and of course, when i am in a battle. i thought the 6800 would take of fps but this is not the case. im so dissapointed. i find it so hard to belive that my rig is a bottleneck here because i am assuming the graphics card is what really matters when it comes to fps.

here is another factor in the this problem. before i installed the 6800 in my rig, i installed it on a friend of mine's. he has a 2.6 p4 with pc3200, 1 gig. and when he was looking at the hover ship he was getting 30 fps, compared to his 20 fps when he was running his 9800pro oc'd to xt speeds. so it was clear the the 6800 stock card was whipping all over his 9800 pro, oc'd card. i assumed that i could at least match his 9800 performance with my 6800 and my rig. but this is not the case. i thought that even though i have a slower system that him, the 6800 would have giving me the edge, or at least matched his performance with that 9800 ati.

[cmcquistion]

I'm getting 25-30 FPS at the Hovership, as you described. I have a gig of RAM in my P4, here, and I had a gig in my AMD dually, also. I'm not sure this is why I'm not having problems, but it is a possible culprit.

I think your memory amount is your bottleneck. This is what to do:

1. Do those tweaks I mentioned above. They will relieve your system from having to decompress data. This might save you some RAM and some CPU cycles.

2. Make sure your BIOS settings are optimized. Crank your AGP Aperture as high as it will go, setup fast memory timings, etc, turn off unnecessary shadowing, etc. Check this page for optimized BIOS settings for gaming systems: http://www.omegadrivers.net/nvidia/mb_bios.php

3. Tweak your running Services in the Operating System. This can free up more RAM and close potential security holes. Use the Windows Services Guide at www.blackviper.com. He has one for Windows XP and one for Windows 2000.

4. Close any unnecessary programs, before starting up the game.

5. If all else fails, read through the Doom3 Tech Support/Troubleshooting thread that I linked to, above. If you are having this problem, there is a good chance someone else has had it, too. Maybe one of the tips in there will help.

[Enemy Down!]

i actually dont have time right now to do all those tweaks. and i dont like the fact that i have to go to extensive lengths to make this game run the way it should. i did not imagine i would be having such bad fps with the latest and greatest graphics card. but oh well.

anyway, you say you get 25-30 fps at the hovership. are you running on high settings? can you run it on low settings and go to the lowest resolution and then tell me if your fps increased? i imagine they would increase dramatically. but in my situation they wont increase at all (maybe 2 fps more). i dont understand this.

also, how can my ram be the bottleneck when it comes to frames per second? i only see my ram as limiting me to a pause-free game. i dont see how putting in another 512 megs of ram will increase the fps.

heh,,,,why me,,,,why.........lol

[cmcquistion]

i actually dont have time right now to do all those tweaks. and i dont like the fact that i have to go to extensive lengths to make this game run the way it should. i did not imagine i would be having such bad fps with the latest and greatest graphics card. but oh well.

Geez, man.... Today was the day the game was released. It is a little early to be so upset, don't you think? Give the video card companies a few days to get updated drivers and ID software is already working on a patch.

I think, however, that the problem is just some configuration stuff on your machine, as I mentioned.

It WILL work, just be patient. Read, read, then read some more. Since today is THE DAY the game was released, there aren't millions of user experiences all floating around, yet, but we have dozens and dozens in our own forums. Others had similar problems and have discussed those, with many or most being resolved, already.

[Hardin]

Install your chipset drivers to make sure your video card has agp texture acceleration enabled. IF that doesn't help then your cpus might not be enough.

[Enemy Down!]

ok i run the demo in the game

timedemo demo1.demo is the command

i did it with high settings set to the highest resolution and i got 30.6 fps

with low settings and lowest resolution i got 34.1 fps

with high settings and 1280x1024 (the settings that i was hoping i could play with) i got 31 fps.

from number-wise those look good. my fried's computer spits out 28 fps with high settings in 1280x1024 when he runs the time demo.

but his computer runs the game better during gameplay.

it doesnt match up. i am more confused than ever. lol

[kiyoshilionz]

I was just over at a friend's house who has a FX 5600 and a P4 2.6C, OC'd to 3.2 I think. It was running at framerates between 10-15 at totally low setttings for a while and he eventually got it to run 800x600 medium quality. I think what he said he did was uninstall drivers, reinstall drivers + reinstall DirectX. It was something like that but it totally wasn't a bad video card. Just some bad software.

[PaleFace]

Sound problems Audigy 2 ZS. Surround Sound loss or cracking when selected. If I choose No Surround Sound and go Head Phones it's ok. If anyone has a fix for it. Please post!!


Audigy 2 ZS problem, I was having. I found a workable solution. In your Windows Control Panel for Sound and Audio Devices/Sound Playback/Advanced..Choose Surround sound Speakers. Not 5.1 or 7.1! Then in Performance Tab. I had to back down Hardware Acceleration to the 2nd notch or "Basic Acceleration". I guess Audigy's need to be lowered for Doom3. Sound so far seems good!!

[kyleboy77]

I am still getting artifacts in my game wtf?... my comp is not overclocked or anything...I have the beta 4.9's installed for my radeon 9800 pro... the artifacts went away for a while no they are back it is ruining the game

[CandymanCan]

try turning Vsync on in the game. If thats doesnt work try using drivers that arent beta's

[kyleboy77]

but the beta's made it better, vsync is on

[F4]

Update to game crashing issues I was having, for anyone else who's having it crash/freeze:

Check your sound card drivers, and make sure they're the most current. I updated my SB16 drivers, and the game seems to be stable now.

[verbatim]

Try this. Open the config file, find these settings (all together) and change them to look like this:

seta image_useCache "1"
seta image_cacheMegs "256"
seta image_cacheMinK "20480"

Might not give extra FPS but should help with opening doors etc where the game can pause for a few secs.


BTW I'm playin at 1600x1200 high settings, 2xaa +8xaf. In HEAVY fire fights the fps can drop to 20+ but 90% of the time it runs 30-60fps. i just have a problem with the sound. It keeps turning off (same as painkiller) This didnt happen with my 9800pro. Just the x800 card. More driver problems I think.

[verbatim]

I've been searching for awhile now, but haven't found much on these settings

seta image_useCache "0" (shouldn't this be 1 for image_cacheMegs to work?)
seta image_cacheMegs "20" (20!!!!! so 256 here instead?)
seta image_cacheMinK "200" (huh)
seta image_usePrecompressedTextures "1" (set to 0 after unzipping those pk4 files?)
seta image_useNormalCompression "0" (set to 1 after unzipping pk4 files?)
seta image_useAllFormats "1" (huh)
seta image_useCompression "1" (huh)


Anyone found anything worth saring? I've read that setting cachemegs up to 128 or 256 makes a HUGE diff, but am not sure if you need to set UseCache to 1 or just leave it at 0....

help :)

seta image_useCache "0"
seta image_cacheMegs "20"
seta image_cacheMinK "200

Change to
seta image_useCache "1" <==enables
seta image_cacheMegs "256" <==setting
seta image_cacheMinK "20480" <==Above crashes without changing this

I think the concensus is that changing this probaly wont give u a higher fps but should help with those little pauses the game has. ie When u enter a room or during cut scenes.

[gustav]

Try this. Open the config file, find these settings (all together) and change them to look like this:

seta image_useCache "1"
seta image_cacheMegs "256"
seta image_cacheMinK "20480"

Might not give extra FPS but should help with opening doors etc where the game can pause for a few secs.


BTW I'm playin at 1600x1200 high settings, 2xaa +8xaf. In HEAVY fire fights the fps can drop to 20+ but 90% of the time it runs 30-60fps. i just have a problem with the sound. It keeps turning off (same as painkiller) This didnt happen with my 9800pro. Just the x800 card. More driver problems I think.

what do those settings do?

i run mine on a p4 2.4 @ 3.3, 1gig pc3500, 9800 pro 445/370. with 1024/768 and it set to ultra quality 4xaa set in advanced and things maxed out in my ati control panel i get 30-60fps normally, but it drops down to 20 when i open a door. in a heavy fight i go down to about the same.

[verbatim]

I think they are for the amount of sys mem used for textures. Setting it to a higher amount means the textures dont have to be loaded when a room is entered???

Anyway works for me. Try it u got zero to loose. U can always change it back. I turned my aa of tho. Can c no diff.

[gustav]

should AA and AF be turned off?

[cmcquistion]

According the the review over at [H], AA is unnecessary for Doom3. Weird, but true, they said.

[verbatim]

At high setting and above 8xAF is automatically turned on BTW

[fartem]

At high setting and above 8xAF is automatically turned on BTW


i bet thats why. 8x will eat alot up

[redken]

Very good overall info. here on the game guys!
Good job! :thup:

I'm still looking for more tweaks on the game. If I find more I will post here, but for now all that I have found on other sites is pretty much covered here.

[alien dork]

Install your chipset drivers to make sure your video card has agp texture acceleration enabled. IF that doesn't help then your cpus might not be enough.

I previously had problem with Video cards before because the "AGP texture acceleration" was disabled. for you to enable it you need to download the motherboard driver from msi. if it is not already installed, give it a try.

[Chowdy]

seta image_useCache "0"
seta image_cacheMegs "20"
seta image_cacheMinK "200

Change to
seta image_useCache "1" <==enables
seta image_cacheMegs "256" <==setting
seta image_cacheMinK "20480" <==Above crashes without changing this

I think the concensus is that changing this probaly wont give u a higher fps but should help with those little pauses the game has. ie When u enter a room or during cut scenes.

Do these settings apply to people with only 512MB RAM? If not, how can i tweak it for that?

[verbatim]

chowdory, that setting is for 512 megs of ram. set ur cachmegs to half system ram.
Dunno what cachemink does yet, but the gane wont load if u dont change that as well

[iLLestOne]

seta image_useCache "0"
seta image_cacheMegs "20"
seta image_cacheMinK "200

Change to
seta image_useCache "1" <==enables
seta image_cacheMegs "256" <==setting
seta image_cacheMinK "20480" <==Above crashes without changing this

I think the concensus is that changing this probaly wont give u a higher fps but should help with those little pauses the game has. ie When u enter a room or during cut scenes.

Thank you VERY much. I searched around and couldn't find anything on that....

No finals today, so I'll do some testing with all those numbers, thx :)

[gustav]

Ok i just ran the timedemo demo1 at 1024x768 with ultra quality setting. no aa/af. with 4.7 cats i got 34.1fps average. 4.9 beta cats "optimized for doom 3" got me 35.1 on the same demo, same settings.

my system is:

asus p4c800-e dlx
p4 2.4 @ 3.3
1gb mushkin level ll 2-2-2-5 timings
9800 pro 445/370
74gb raptor

the time demo gets choppy at points, but strangly enough the game is generally smooth when i play it. the only time it gets choppy is when i open a door or get into heavy combat. i think the changes mentioned above have helped that.

[verbatim]

I just used the 4.9 cats and my fps on timedemo1 went up 4fps! sweet.

Also I alsways run the demo twice as the first time is VERU choppy and 5fps slower. The game isnt choppy at all.

[gustav]

yeah the 4.9 cats were really meant to help the x800 and above. it can help low end cards, but it can also hurt performance as it was mentioned in the release notes. i didnt want to run it twice because then all the stuff is cached. i could have but i didnt the first time so if i didnt it the second time it would skew the results. i didnt feel like redoing everything again. just add on a few fps to what i posted to get an idea ;)

[iLLestOne]

Ok, after doing those .cfg settings, and updateing 4.7 to 4.9b, here is what happend...
All at 1024x768 w/ high detail, no aa 8af
timedemo demo1
cat 4.7
33.2
46.1

cat 4.9
34.9
46.9

cat 4.7 w/ original .cfg
35.5
45.9

So I haven't made too much progress, lol

[Dragonprince]

I'm well aware that many Audigy users are getting sound glitches and problems when running Doom 3. I myself run an NForce2 based system, an Abit NF7-S 2.0, w/ the latest Nvidia WHQL system drivers (4.27), and am getting sound issues all over the place. I run it in Soundstorm DD 5.1 mode. Sometimes the sound will completely shut off, sometimes it gets garbled and crackly, and sometimes it never starts w/ the game at all. This is getting very, very annoying when playing D 3. If you experience similiar issues please post here so we can potentially narrow this down.

I have an Audigy2 and have zero sound issues...

[Gimps]

So I started up D3 today when I got home from work and for some reason my mousewheel no longer changes weapons! I check the controls menu and it still shows the mousewheel up and down on the previous/next weapon select, but for some reason it's not working.

I have the Logitech cordless duo (MX700 mouse) if that makes any difference.

Anyone have an idea on what's going on here and how to fix it?

[TheNewGuy143]

Did you really need another thread???

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=318354

Section IV

TheNewGuy

[Dragonprince]

According the the review over at [H], AA is unnecessary for Doom3. Weird, but true, they said.

They might have said it but thats not my experience at all. The game looks much much better with AA @ 2X and AF @ 8X....
I believe they were talking about the low level machines not running AA and AF so it wouldnt kill the frame rates....

[Metallica God]

is the game playable with my rig?

[kyleboy77]

I would say no... or not at a level that will do the game any justice... it will look so crappy that it will ruin the game.... just my two cents

[theELVISCERATOR]

is the game playable with my rig?
should be runnable np at low res..

[verbatim]

Did you really need another thread???

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=318354

Section IV

TheNewGuy

Er yea that one is one page long and started yesterday. This one is 5 days old and 7 pages long.

[TUK101]

I am not sure on this game yet. After installing it 2 nights ago my computer would not boot to windows anymore, had to reformat. So after 2 days of downloading updates and patches for windows and antivirus, (ended up with about a dozen viruses just trying to get all my windows updates) I finally got the game installed again. I just find that the game is running at very low fps, I mean my vid card is only one generation old lol. I have had the game freeze on me a couple of times as well and my video card is not OC'ed either, as a matter of fact it does it with the video card oc'ed or not. I am thinking that maybe it is a sound issue. Anyways, I have the game, got it the day that it was released from Best Buy and I do have to say that it does look good, but I think that there are a few bugs in it.

[wannaoc]

fluxcapicitor I had sound issues as well, the sound would just cut off. I fixed it by downloading the newest Sound Blaster drivers, no problems since. Double check you have the newest ones, there may be a patch out for the sound drivers.

Whats bothering me about the game is I have to run it at 800x600 and had to turn my graphics card down to run it. All my pc and it looks like poo. That game is way too pretty to run in 800x600 imo so to an x800 I go!

[iLLestOne]

wannaoc, you should be able to run at 1024x768, high quality w/ NO problem. Dl 4.9b and make sure to enable triple buffering if you have vsync on.

My comp is close to yours and i run perfect at above settings, 0aa 8af....

[electromagnetic]

Not sure if this has been posted, but have you guys tried "map /testmaps/test_lotsaimps"?

It loads a plain room with like 10 of each enemy, I get about 1 FPS while they start attacking, I can't even walk into the room.

[electromagnetic]

Oh, and the game seems to run fairly smooth on my 2 lower end systems, low details, 640x480. So, really I think 1 GHz is the bare minimum for this game.

[Stiffler69]

okay when i extract the pak04, my game crashes it wont even load maps or anything. beore i extract the pk04 files what files s hould be left in \base?? is it supposed to be empty or what?? and once i do extract them i get pak04, pak00 etc.. folders. i had to reinstall my game cause of this. please help me

[amanojyaku]

So I started up D3 today when I got home from work and for some reason my mousewheel no longer changes weapons! I check the controls menu and it still shows the mousewheel up and down on the previous/next weapon select, but for some reason it's not working.

I have the Logitech cordless duo (MX700 mouse) if that makes any difference.

Anyone have an idea on what's going on here and how to fix it?

you could try to download the new mouseware and the advanced mouseware program too. they are at the logitech site.

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/downloads/software/US/EN,CRID=1792,contentid=6034,OSID=1,softwareid=6819

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/downloads/software/US/EN,CRID=1792,contentid=6034

[theELVISCERATOR]

on my lan rig 1.6@ 2.2 with 9800 pro stock clocks able to run

37.5 fps timedemo 1 @ 1024 HQ...not too shabby!.......


with 4.9B's...

gained 2 fps from 4.7s...

[theELVISCERATOR]

Oh, and the game seems to run fairly smooth on my 2 lower end systems, low details, 640x480. So, really I think 1 GHz is the bare minimum for this game.


run a timedemo at those settings then bring up quality to high..and post please....

[HousERaT]

running the time demo now at 45fps.... switched back to omega 4.6..... seems to be pretty smooth.... also have the directx9c

[Stiffler69]

can someone help me with my prob

[L>MS]

This may have been asked but is there anyway because two installations to have two profiles, both me and my brother want to play but we only have on computer. Is there a setting or something or should we just do two installations?

[electromagnetic]

16.2 fps on system #3 below, low details with only bump mapping enabled. it's playable except when there's machines running. there just has to be a way to run this game smooth on a 1GHz machine.

[Stiffler69]

there is if u maybe read some other posts and look around u can get like 30 fps, cause i got ar ead had a worse system than u and still was able to play it, it was 1ghz as well

[KnownKiller]

Keep the tips coming guys.. :)

[kyleboy77]

so how do I fix my sound clicking... I fixed the artifacts mostly... with the cat 4.9b's

[Xymurgy]

I'm having the problem where my sound cuts out all of a sudden.

Using an Extigy.

[KnownKiller]

I'm having the problem where my sound cuts out all of a sudden.

Using an Extigy.

I've noticed the same every once and a while.. It also happends when i play MP3's a few times durring a song.

I'm using a Audigy 2 Platnium.

[Dragonprince]

You need to turn hardware acceleration down a notch or two. Also make sure "good sampling rate" is on if available instead of "best". Go to Control Panel and select "Sounds and Audio devices". I have attached a picture to show the two selections to adjust until your sound works. Also make sure you have the latest audio drivers for your rig...:beer:

http://img62.exs.cx/img62/6086/soundsettings.gif

[fartem]

my bought versions weird, Anyone seeing Script and texture errors in the console commands also?

[kyleboy77]

Dragonprince that did not get rid of the clicking I am hearing

[Xymurgy]

I actually had those settings because the last game I bought is also incompatible with sound acceleration (LoK-Defiance)...

Why are games skimping on sound?

[Chowdy]

I don't know if anyone else has posted or noticed this, but Vsync may be buggy in Doom3. I'm using CAT4.9 beta's and when i turn Vsync on it lowers my FPS on PURPOSE. When i say this, i mean it'll lower it to 30FPS cap for NO reason at certain times that make NO SENSE. For example, when i'm looking at a wall, it'll be 60FPS. When i move a little bit, still looking at the wall, it'll go ALL THE WAY DOWN to 30FPS flat, and stay there. Even when i turn my flashlight on it stays @ 30FPS. So i turn Vsync off and it's fine. 1024x768 on high.

[iLLestOne]

I get too many tears when vsync is off. Remember to enable tripple buffering if you use vsync too....

[tylerhskate]

I get this plus another error behind it with a diff code after 2 seconds at this certain spot in the communications level...i hope i can get past it without buying a new video card right now heres a pic of what it is - http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/tylerhskate/doom3problem.jpg

[Chowdy]

I get too many tears when vsync is off. Remember to enable tripple buffering if you use vsync too....

how do i do that??
:confused:

[iLLestOne]

how do i do that??
:confused:
When your on the "3d tab" (in advance settings), click "opengl" and look for a tab that says "Compatibility" down near the "ok" and "cancel" buttons. Hit that, and enable "tripple buffering".

It helps out a LOT with vsync :)

[fartem]

i think the 4.6 ati drivers has some issues with DOom 3 even though it runs DOom 3 the best.

after switching back to 4.6 from 4.9 my DOom 3 quits on me. Yes i did driver clean

[Dragonprince]

Dragonprince that did not get rid of the clicking I am hearing

If you have onboard sound and your rig is OC'd then you probably have an issue with SouthBridge chipset cooling. I would suggest some active cooling and using ArticSilver as your thermal paste.

If you have a PCI card like an Audigy then try moving it to a different PCI slot. If that fails try a different sound card, yours may be bad.

My rig is OC'd and I had some sound issues in games when using the onboard AC97 audio. I know that its due to the small and cheesy heatsink on my SouthBridge not being able to handle any OCing at all. I had an Audigy2 to use anyway so instead of mounting a proper heatsink on the SouthBridge I just disabled onboard audio and went with the Audigy2. No more issues...

[germanjulian]

for ATI cards. up to 40% speed increase!

Thanks to Kombatant for showing me this thread posted by Humus on Beyond3d it makes for interesting reading indeed. I can verify it works as ive deinstalled Doom long ago but its worth checking out.

First, open your doom3\base folder. Doubleclick on the pak000.pk4 file. In the "window can't open this file .. .bla bla" dialog, go on and associate the file with an app like WinRar. With this file open in WinRar, go to the glprogs directory in the file. In there you'll find the shaders. The interaction.vfp file seems to be the main rendering shader. Altering this shader to output a constant color turns most objects into that constant color, except for stuff like computer screens etc.

So doubleclick the interaction.vfp file to open it (you may have to associate the .vfp extension with a text editor like notepad or wordpad first since we're going to edit the file). Scroll down to the fragment shader. You'll find these rows:

Code:
PARAM subOne = { -1, -1, -1, -1 };
PARAM scaleTwo = { 2, 2, 2, 2 };

Add this right below them:

Code:
PARAM specExp = { 16, 0, 0, 0 };

Now scroll down to this:

Code:
# perform a dependent table read for the specular falloff
TEX R1, specular, texture[6], 2D;

Comment out that line by adding a "#" to it, and add another line that will do the same thing with math instead, so it should look like this:

Code:
# perform a dependent table read for the specular falloff
# TEX R1, specular, texture[6], 2D;
POW R1, specular.x, specExp.x;

Save the file and close your text editor. WinRar will ask if you want to update the file in the archive, select yes. Close WinRar and enjoy about 40% higher performance in Doom3. Haven't done extensive testing yet, but my performance went from 34fps in 1280x1024 to 48fps.

[germanjulian]

i installed winxp(withsp2) yesterday. started doom3 didnt work (doom3 sits on another partition).

i reinstall and it works.

go out all day leave comp off.
same thing wont start. reinstall and still wont start!??

when the loading screen comes up (like in quake3) which you never see cause it appears and dissapear so quick it says something like vid_reset is an unknown commands?

anyway have any ideals. was working fine this morning and now its not??

[ShortCircuit2]

POSSIBLE CLICKING SOUND FIX:

I have not tried this yet, but this was posted on another forum in a clicking sound topic:

hey guys, I found a solution on another board. Turns out it's a problem with one of the footstep sound effects. Here's what to do:

1. make a temp directory
2. open pak003.pk4 with winzip
3. sort by path
4. find all the files in sound\ed\player\steps and highlight them
5. click extract and choose your temp directory
6. go to the newly created sound\ed\player\steps and look in the last directory \steps
7. I used winamp to play the .ogg files
8. File step10.ogg is the offending file, remove it and back it up somewhere else.
9. Choose any other stepxx.ogg file you want to use to replace step10.ogg and make a copy of it. I found step13.ogg to work well.
10. rename the copied file step10.ogg
11. Now drag the whole directory tree: sound\ed\player\steps back into the opened pak003.pk4 file.
12. Close winzip.
13. Done!
You're welcome.

[iLLestOne]

for ATI cards. up to 40% speed increase!

Has anyone tried this? Also, does anyone know exactly what it does? Will it lower IQ at all or anything like that?

[oo_7]

Has anyone tried this? Also, does anyone know exactly what it does? Will it lower IQ at all or anything like that?

I have tryed it and it works. I have not noticed any difference in the quality of graphics. I was getting 23fps in the time demo and now i am at 31fps.

Out of all the "tweaks" i have tryed, this one actualy works. :clap:

oo_7

[F4]

I have tryed it and it works. I have not noticed any difference in the quality of graphics. I was getting 23fps in the time demo and now i am at 31fps.

Out of all the "tweaks" i have tryed, this one actualy works.


I am having terrible trouble with this, so anyone who is going to try it, back up your original file before you go messing with it.

When I try this tweak, my video goes so dark I can hardly see a thing. It's way too dark to play with that, and when running timedemo1, I actually had a slightly lower FPS. (from 23.7 to 21.4).

This is my system:
AMD Athlon 1800+
ATI Radeon 9600PRO 128

[tylerhskate]

It wouldnt let me install the 4.9 betas, i used driver cleaner and cleaned up everything too and wound up having to do a windows restore :(

[ShortCircuit2]

ok, i tried it, and that fix that i posted works to get rid of the crackling sound

[WeaponX6X]

I NEED HELP.

Doom3 won't load. I run the game, click New Game, Marine/Recruit/Veteran, and then the loading screen appears. The bar gets about 1/8th full and the game then returns to the main menu. I've tried every different video setting. I got Nvidia's latest drivers. I reinstalled Direct X 9.0b. I've reinstalled the game. I don't know what else to do or what else to check. My system is in my sig.

When trying to join a multiplayer game I get the message: Missing 1 Media Pak Files: 0xc51 ECDCD
http://webpages.charter.net/deathwish238/Doom3%20Error.JPG
What does that mean?

WTH do I do to make Doom3 work properly?

HELP PLEASE!!

[Cowboy X]

Here is a great ATI specific tweak :

http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14874

Oops already posted .

But this page has the 'updated' tweak by Humus :

http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14874&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=240

http://esprit.campus.luth.se/~humus/temp/doom3PerformanceTweak.rar

[Cowboy X]

More tweaks : http://theinquirer.net/?article=17732

[germanjulian]

mhhh doom3 timedemo sucks.

when playing with the ati 4.9 drives and dx9c (sound) and some tweaks it all feels a lot smoother then the FPS increase I get in the timedemo. funny thing is that so many people confirm this.

oh I never go below 40Fps normally and sometimes SOMEtimes drop to 30Fps. which is exellent for a 9800pro 128MB and slow 2700ddr ram.
cant wait for hl2... hahah who needs an a64 and a new graphics card.
oh high details. 1024 resolution.

[micamica1217]

I have not tryed humus's tweeks, as some people have had problems with them....

yet I'm one of the people who would like to have some duct tape for Doom3...
for anyone who wishs for a flashlight on your shotgun and machinegun, here is some duct tape....LOOK. (http://ducttape.glenmurphy.com/)

mica

[DMac]

Here is a great ATI specific tweak :

http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14874

Oops already posted .

But this page has the 'updated' tweak by Humus :

http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14874&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=240

http://esprit.campus.luth.se/~humus/temp/doom3PerformanceTweak.rar

Has anyone tried these teaks? Results?

[redken]

I have not tryed humus's tweeks, as some people have had problems with them....

yet I'm one of the people who would like to have some duct tape for Doom3...
for anyone who wishs for a flashlight on your shotgun and machinegun, here is some duct tape....LOOK. (http://ducttape.glenmurphy.com/)

mica
Does this mod get rid of the muzzle Flash?

[deathman20]

Did the Humus tweak last night worked flawless. Went from 40ish FPS all the way up to 52-54 FPS now! Not a bad increase from what I consider. Running 4.6Cats with 2x aa and 8xaf @ 1280x1024. My vid card is not at xt-pe speeds (due to cooling issues) but runs dang nice at these settings can't wait to play through the game again.

[F4]

I NEED HELP.

Doom3 won't load. I run the game, click New Game, Marine/Recruit/Veteran, and then the loading screen appears. The bar gets about 1/8th full and the game then returns to the main menu. I've tried every different video setting. I got Nvidia's latest drivers. I reinstalled Direct X 9.0b. I've reinstalled the game. I don't know what else to do or what else to check. My system is in my sig.

When trying to join a multiplayer game I get the message: Missing 1 Media Pak Files: 0xc51 ECDCD
What does that mean?

WTH do I do to make Doom3 work properly?

HELP PLEASE!!

Sounds like you need to try a manual install, looks to me like for some reason a file wasn't copied to your hard drive when the game was installed.

Instructions for doing a manual install can be found here:

https://activision.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/activision.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=12693&p_created=1091054131&p_sid=7sOu4vih&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PWRmbHQmcF9ncmlkc29yd D0mcF9yb3dfY250PTEyMiZwX3NlYXJjaF90eXBlPXNlYXJjaF9 ubCZwX3Byb2RfbHZsMT0xJnBfcHJvZF9sdmwyPTM4OSZwX3BhZ 2U9MQ**&p_li=

[DMac]

Did the Humus tweak last night worked flawless. Went from 40ish FPS all the way up to 52-54 FPS now! Not a bad increase from what I consider. Running 4.6Cats with 2x aa and 8xaf @ 1280x1024. My vid card is not at xt-pe speeds (due to cooling issues) but runs dang nice at these settings can't wait to play through the game again.

Wow. That's quite an increase. I'm going to have to try it. So it's basically just inserting that one line of code?

[micamica1217]

Does this mod get rid of the muzzle Flash?

no, just adds flashlight to your shotgun and machinegun...the light isn't wide, so it still retains some darkness/creapyness to the lvls.

a great mod that adds to the game, while not realy taking anything away from it.

a must have in my book.

mica

[DMac]

Question about a level in the game. It's in the Alpha Labs Sector. Does anyone remember the room where as soon as you fire, the entire place goes up in flame? There are two monsters that spawn in there and every time I fire at them or use a grenade, the entire place goes up. Must be an oxygen rich environment or something. Anyone know the best way to handle this...or perhap there was some valve or something that I didn't turn on.

[deathman20]

Wow. That's quite an increase. I'm going to have to try it. So it's basically just inserting that one line of code?

Yea just adding lines, it looks better too I think, but hey might be me since I havn't touched the game for a couple days. :) Mmm nightmare time, ooh that should be some good killing, or maybe I'll just go casual and check out the secrets in the map.

[oo_7]

I have not tryed humus's tweeks, as some people have had problems with them....

yet I'm one of the people who would like to have some duct tape for Doom3...
for anyone who wishs for a flashlight on your shotgun and machinegun, here is some duct tape....LOOK. (http://ducttape.glenmurphy.com/)

mica

Thx, Great find there micamica1217.

But what i would like now is a Laser pointer on the Handgun. :drool:
Hehehe

oo_7

[DMac]

Yea just adding lines, it looks better too I think, but hey might be me since I havn't touched the game for a couple days. :) Mmm nightmare time, ooh that should be some good killing, or maybe I'll just go casual and check out the secrets in the map.

Don't mean to sound ignorant...I downloaded the .rar file from that link. So i extract that file, then overwrite the old one. And it's in base/glprogs right?

[deathman20]

I guess lol. I just edited the file myself. Just make sure you make a backup of the old file otherwise if it messes up somehow, you'll just have to copy it back over or pull the pk4 file off the CD and put it back on the drive.

[DMac]

Gotcha. Thanks and I'll probably try that this evening.

[micamica1217]

Question about a level in the game. It's in the Alpha Labs Sector. Does anyone remember the room where as soon as you fire, the entire place goes up in flame? There are two monsters that spawn in there and every time I fire at them or use a grenade, the entire place goes up. Must be an oxygen rich environment or something. Anyone know the best way to handle this...or perhap there was some valve or something that I didn't turn on.

I'm on the delta lvls so I can't remember corectly if I'm giving you the right info....

there was a room I remember entering that had machines on the left.
hit the machines with a stray shotgun blast and you'll blow up.
my hint: back up and let the montsters come after you, then use the machinegun to kill the two monsters away from the machines.

mica

[DMac]

I'm on the delta lvls so I can't remember corectly if I'm giving you the right info....

there was a room I remember entering that had machines on the left.
hit the machines with a stray shotgun blast and you'll blow up.
my hint: back up and let the montsters come after you, then use the machinegun to kill the two monsters away from the machines.

mica

Yeah I think we're talking about the same place. I'll try avoiding those machine with any shots. Maybe that's it.

[Dragonprince]

I think your hitting a gas drum next to the door...

[idunno246]

I think your hitting a gas drum next to the door...
nah, a couple minutes before a scientist says be careful not to hit anything or it will explode. I just finished that section, doing basically what mica suggested. I got crushed by the door right after the scientest the first time i went through :bang head

[tylerhskate]

Ive played up until the communications level(about halfway through) and now i get a crash everytime for some reason...i took a screenshot of all i could find take a look(im using 4.7 cats) - http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/tylerhskate/doom3problem.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/tylerhskate/doom3prob.jpg