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Turbokeu
08-26-01, 05:11 AM
Some pics of my unfinished Lian Li PC-70.

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A general view of my Lian Li PC-70. All hoses are 1/2" silicon tubing and are fixed with hose clamps.
All PVC parts have an ID of 20mm (a little more than 3/4"), the copper tube is 15mm OD (a little more than 1/2").
The radiator is the new AquaCoil II with two 3/8" parallel waterways and 1/2" connections.


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AquaCoil II radiator & Enermax 550W. I drilled the rivets of the L-shaped alu plate near and beneath the PSU. Than I removed a part to clear the radiator (on the left) and for the 92mm fan of the Enermax (at the bottom).


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View from the other side + Panaflo L1A fan.
Between the Panaflo and the AquaCoil radiator I mounted an aluminium (1mm anodized) shroud of about 2.5cm (1") so that I could mount the Panaflo on the other side of the radiator (sucking air instead of blowing), and so that the Panaflo is 1.5" away from the cooling fins.


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The hole for the 92mm fan of the Enermax + modded Swiftech. I inversed the two rear 80mm fans so that they blow air into the case together with the two front fans. Input is now about 124CFM (4x 31CFM) and Output (Enermax + 120mm Panaflo L1A (69CFM)) is about 100CFM, so that I have a little positive pressure in the case.


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This is not a reservoir but an "airtrap" at almost the highest point of the system to "trap" or bleed remaining air bubbles in the water, and also to have a visual indication of the water level. Since the upper cover is removable I can add water to the circuit.
The PVC-part is made of 50mm OD PVC (2") and two hermetic endcaps with a screwed cover of 50mm + about 15cm (6") plexi tube of also 50mm diameter. On the T-part is mounted two brass adaptors (1/2" to 15mm) to connect to the 15mm copper tube.
The 90° copper turns are hardsoldered to the brass adaptors.


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Sicce Idra 1300 liter/hour pump (320gallon/hour) + bleeding & filling system with Eheim taps (petshop).
The big tap has a 3/8" thread and is screwed to the PVC via 1/2" to 3/8" brass adaptors with Teflon.
The two little taps (1/4" thread) are screwed with Teflon via 1/4" to 1/2" brass adaptors. Everything is screwed to the chassis via the two 27mm clamps. All PVC parts have an ID of 20mm.
Between the PVC-part and the pump is a little piece (4cm) of 20mm silicone tube to prevent vibrations from the pump to pass to the chassis. The pump itself is mounted on rubber suckers.
The two little taps are used to fill and bleed the system (via 3/8" silicone tube to a "jerrycan" with cooling fluid).
All PVC is glued with "hardPVC" glue.


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The rear side of the PC-70.


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The front side.


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The new "PSU mounting plate" with Panaflo L1A. I made it using the original mounting plate as a model + the additional hole for the Panaflo. I had to rotate the hole for the PSU because originally the PSU is mounted with the 92mm fan upwards. Beneath the Panaflo is the AC connection and switch for the waterpump.


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"Spoilers" near the fans to prevent the two 80mm fans to suck in hot air from the PSU and the Panaflo (I smoked a lot of sigarets just to see where the airflow of the fans was going).


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I had to file the chassis profiles to make some clearance for the AquaCoil radiator.


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Idem (other side).


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Swiftech MCW462 with modded 1/4" nipples & 15mm copper tube.
I removed the original swiveling connectors from the Swiftech and replaced them by standard brass 1/4" male to 1/4" male nipples. Since they only had an ID of 6mm (1/4") I drilled them to 10mm (3/8") internally.
Onto these nipples I soldered a 90° turn of 15mm copper tube.


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The LED's on the front panel. I will have to use a second blind 3.5" alu plate because I forgot the red plexi window for the InfraRed-transmitter-receiver...


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Inside of the relay for the waterpump.


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Outside of the relay. The Molex connector is connected to the +12V voltage of the PSU so that the waterpump Is switched together with the PSU.
The little connector goes to the blue LED on the front panel and indicates if the pump is running. The LED is powered by the AC voltage of the pump, not the 12V of the PSU. (See my thread http://www.icronticforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11237&highlight=LED)

This relay will be fixed to the right of the 3.5" bays. The switch connects the pump to the AC line even with the PSU powered off (for leaktesting etc.)


What misses is the inline-T-sensor for measuring the watertemperature (under construction) based on a Eheim 12/16mm plastic T.
Also missing is my electronic flowmeter (ordered).
The SwissFlow 800 sensor gives 6000 pulses/liter (so is basically calibrated for liter/min) and connects directly to the mobo like a standard fan with RPM monitoring.
(see http://www.swissflow.com)
This part has the smallest ID (8.5mm), but following Joe from http://www.procooling.com (who bought two of them) the SwissFlow 800 opposes as much as no resistance to waterflow.


EDIT: I tested everything (PSU, pump and fans), guys what a SILENCE !!! (compared to my actual Supermicro SC-760 with Swiftech and Delta 80HP, and 8 case fans)
CD:)

dimmreaper
08-26-01, 05:14 AM
Nice work! Did I say work, I ment craftsmenship.

The Overclocker
08-26-01, 07:28 AM
i have gota get saterted on my watercooling now

BigDawg
08-26-01, 08:23 AM
Just wanted to say OUTSTANDING !!! job

touser
08-26-01, 03:12 PM
that is awsome! i mean AWSOME! much better looking then my zip tie job too lol...

Bender
08-26-01, 03:28 PM
And I thought my water setup looked cool.

train22
08-26-01, 03:47 PM
#OLY $#!T, I need to learn a lot more about water cooling, I don't know crap about it yet, I am the old fan type and it is really not worth it, having an airforce jetplane out of each of the 7 fans I have isn't working, I will have to move onto watercooling in the future. Is there a really really good guide with ilistrations to explain how it works and how it is done? Perhaps you should write one Turbokeu.
Thanx.

phiber
08-26-01, 04:02 PM
i wish i could do that or even had the money to do that
btw-nice job

fuzzba11
08-26-01, 05:41 PM
Sweet setup...I think I might steal your pics to use when I want to build a watercooling setup! Very very nice...

UnseenMenace
08-26-01, 06:24 PM
what can I say but impressive

Burning Phoenix
08-27-01, 12:25 AM
Looks pretty cool and neat. Would like to see a pic of the finished results because from what i've seen so far i can tell you are going to make the rest look just as organized.

Crazy Jayhawk
08-27-01, 12:37 AM
Excellent.

Turbokeu
08-27-01, 03:57 AM
Originally posted by train22
#OLY $#!T, I need to learn a lot more about water cooling, I don't know crap about it yet, I am the old fan type and it is really not worth it, having an airforce jetplane out of each of the 7 fans I have isn't working, I will have to move onto watercooling in the future. Is there a really really good guide with ilistrations to explain how it works and how it is done? Perhaps you should write one Turbokeu.
Thanx.
Yes, I'm planning to do so.
Jody from http://www.caseguy.com and Tim from http://www.overclockersonline.be asked me to write a step by step guide, which I will do as soon as my setup is finished. (I'm collecting as much pics as possible for the moment)

CD:)

Turbokeu
08-27-01, 04:00 AM
BTW, I posted some more pics in the following threads:
http://forums.overclockers.ws/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31897
and
http://forums.overclockers.ws/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31898

CD:)

Mr.Lansing
08-27-01, 05:35 AM
Great work and great description
ur system seems to be very safe and secure cause of all the grills
whoooa lots of CFM

Turbokeu
09-10-01, 06:20 AM
Originally posted by Burning Phoenix
Looks pretty cool and neat. Would like to see a pic of the finished results because from what i've seen so far i can tell you are going to make the rest look just as organized.
I will certainly do!
I'm a bit stucked for the moment, awaiting my SwissFlow flowmeter, Seetron LCD and window molding...

CD:)

/\/\isanthrope
09-21-01, 11:08 AM
looks like your waterblock is off by about 90 degrees
:p

RangerJoe34
09-21-01, 04:10 PM
all i can say is BADA$$. Very nice job man. quite impressive. the cooling looking setup ive ever seen. nice, very nice.:)

Silversinksam
09-21-01, 05:15 PM
I like the fact that you took a quality case and turned it into an Exceptional case. You should give yourself a raise.:p

Thanks for sharing your quality mod's with us.

Warlord2
09-21-01, 05:22 PM
that has to be the most impressive setup Ive seen yet!!!

you've go EVERYTHNG

I couldnt begin to understand how to do half your wiring...

how long did it take you?

KeyboardCowboy
09-21-01, 05:25 PM
nicely done, looks professinal too, good job my friend

JetMech
09-21-01, 05:49 PM
Now I gotta buy a new motherboard. I drooled all over this one. Excellent design and modification. Imagine mass producing that baby. Do you not like quick disconnects? Just asking because I know the MCW 462 comes with them.

Turbokeu
09-22-01, 02:56 AM
Originally posted by Silversinksam
I like the fact that you took a quality case and turned it into an Exceptional case. You should give yourself a raise.:p

Thanks for sharing your quality mod's with us.
Thanks!
BTW, I posted some more pics in the following threads:
http://forums.overclockers.ws/vb/sh...&threadid=31897
http://forums.overclockers.ws/vb/sh...&threadid=31898
http://forums.overclockers.ws/vb/sh...&threadid=32264
http://forums.overclockers.ws/vb/sh...&threadid=32880
http://forums.overclockers.ws/vb/sh...&threadid=33558

CD:)

Turbokeu
09-22-01, 02:56 AM
Originally posted by /\/\isanthrope
looks like your waterblock is off by about 90 degrees
:p
Not at all, it has to be mounted on an Asus A7V133.

CD:)

Turbokeu
09-22-01, 03:00 AM
Originally posted by Warlord2
that has to be the most impressive setup Ive seen yet!!!

you've go EVERYTHNG

I couldnt begin to understand how to do half your wiring...

how long did it take you?
I started planning in June (2001 of course...:D ).
I started really with the project when I received my Lian Li and the other components in July.
Now we are half of September and it's still not finished...

CD:)

Turbokeu
09-22-01, 03:14 AM
Originally posted by r_wesleyjr
Now I gotta buy a new motherboard. I drooled all over this one. Excellent design and modification. Imagine mass producing that baby. Do you not like quick disconnects? Just asking because I know the MCW 462 comes with them.
Thanks again!
I like quick disconnects (although I don't need them...) but the ones from Swiftech suck...
First they have a tendancy to leak...
Second, the inner diameter of those disconnects is only 4mm !!! (equivalent to 1/4" hose). This is why I replaced them by 15mm OD copper tube (13mm ID)(I'm using 1/2" silicone hose = 12.7mm ID).

CD :)

Overclockers
09-22-01, 05:28 AM
i was wondering how much money u spent on that setup, man.....?
but anyway....fabulous, well done

Turbokeu
09-22-01, 05:35 AM
Originally posted by Overclockers
i was wondering how much money u spent on that setup, man.....?
but anyway....fabulous, well done
I spent already more than 1200$ and I have still no mobo, CPU and memory...:confused:

CD:)

Overclockers
09-22-01, 05:40 AM
oh dammmn.....that's frickin expensive....
oh...rich people always different :p

hope u get a system that kickin assss, man....

Turbokeu
09-22-01, 05:58 AM
Originally posted by Overclockers
oh dammmn.....that's frickin expensive....
oh...rich people always different :p

hope u get a system that kickin assss, man....
I'm not rich...:confused:
I wanted just a nice, clean, professional, self contained, quiet watercooled case.
When I began this project I had never thought that I would spend that much money.
It's lucky for me that I didn't have to spend the money in one time, but in several parts...

CD:)

fatshlink
09-23-01, 01:44 PM
Orgasmic, might have to steel some ideas for mign. did you build that airtrap??

MeJa
09-23-01, 03:45 PM
Nothing but * I great peace or art * I just got the same radiator and using the same case :) working on doing the same mods as you, so far i'v already mod the L on the case to fit the enermax power supply and the rear cover to fit the PS and the cube radiator ;)

Turbokeu
09-24-01, 12:52 AM
Originally posted by MeJa
Nothing but * I great peace or art * I just got the same radiator and using the same case :) working on doing the same mods as you, so far i'v already mod the L on the case to fit the enermax power supply and the rear cover to fit the PS and the cube radiator ;)
The reason I posted this thread was to share my ideas and experience on this project, so I'm glad you can use some of my ideas (after all, is that not the main reason of a forum?).

CD :)

Turbokeu
09-24-01, 12:57 AM
Originally posted by fatshlink
Orgasmic, might have to steel some ideas for mign. did you build that airtrap??
Steal whatever you want, but not my case...:D
Yes, it's completely DIY.

Since I have to build a second airtrap for a guy from UK, I will take pictures during the construction.

CD:)

fatshlink
09-24-01, 01:04 AM
i was just wandering because it looked like such a good idea. I thank that i am going to go whith an open system for mign

MeJa
09-24-01, 01:09 AM
you're right! too bad i cant use my dremel at night :( damn neighbors :)

bdf24
09-24-01, 06:20 AM
Originally posted by MeJa
you're right! too bad i cant use my dremel at night :( damn neighbors :)

Well your neighbors need to understand that PC modding is far more important then a thing like sleep! :) Well atleast I would if I was your neighbor.

Would'nt it be great to have a neighbor that was a PC guroo like ourselve's. That would be awesome. Although the wive's probobly would'nt care to much for it though.

!-=sky=-!
09-24-01, 06:24 AM
Originally posted by bdf24


Well your neighbors need to understand that PC modding is far more important then a thing like sleep! :) Well atleast I would if I was your neighbor.

Would'nt it be great to have a neighbor that was a PC guroo like ourselve's. That would be awesome. Although the wive's probobly would'nt care to much for it though.

if think a wife will care when u have fingers chopped off

lol

Mad_Capr
09-24-01, 06:33 AM
um, now I realize how crappy my watercooled system looks.

must get bigger case...

must modify case so that I can close the side panel...

Crappy
09-24-01, 07:44 AM
Originally posted by Turbokeu

Steal whatever you want, but not my case...:D
Yes, it's completely DIY.

CD:)

Ok I stole you bleed/fill setup but did it with brass fittings.

MeJa
09-24-01, 08:32 AM
I cant wait till i have my watercool system up and running :) ..... Wonder if there's a pc freaks resident around here ? :)

fatshlink
09-24-01, 08:15 PM
I was looking at a similay waterblock for my water cooler, accpet that i have a pIII which doesent have the holes in the motherboard to mount that type whith:(. looking at the way you had it set up. it looked like you wernt using then. how do you do that?

Turbokeu
09-25-01, 03:26 AM
Originally posted by fatshlink
Orgasmic, might have to steel some ideas for mign. did you build that airtrap??

For the airtrap see my thread http://forums.overclockers.ws/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=37166

CD:)

Turbokeu
09-25-01, 03:27 AM
Originally posted by Crappy


Ok I stole you bleed/fill setup but did it with brass fittings.
Looks great!

CD:)

Turbokeu
09-25-01, 03:28 AM
Originally posted by Turbokeu

Steal whatever you want, but not my case...:D
Yes, it's completely DIY.

Since I have to build a second airtrap for a guy from UK, I will take pictures during the construction.

CD:)
Pics are ready, see http://forums.overclockers.ws/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=37166

CD:)

Turbokeu
09-25-01, 03:32 AM
Originally posted by fatshlink
I was looking at a similay waterblock for my water cooler, accpet that i have a pIII which doesent have the holes in the motherboard to mount that type whith:(. looking at the way you had it set up. it looked like you wernt using then. how do you do that?
Yes I will use the four holes, but since there is no mobo in the case actually, I had to find a way to fix the block in its later position on the mobo.

CD:)

Flipdoggiedog
09-25-01, 07:27 PM
Hello... Very well planed, excellent craftsmanship, and let us know when you write your complete guide. Great job

bbdd
03-19-02, 01:15 AM
sorry, i seem to have found this thread a little late...

i am intersted in seeing the pictures in this thread, but just seeing the dreaded red "x". i suppose they have been removed from the original server they were posted on.

Turbokeu, is there a different URL i can got to see these?

thanks.

Turbokeu
03-19-02, 03:09 AM
Originally posted by bbdd
sorry, i seem to have found this thread a little late...

i am intersted in seeing the pictures in this thread, but just seeing the dreaded red "x". i suppose they have been removed from the original server they were posted on.

Turbokeu, is there a different URL i can got to see these?

thanks.
Don't worry, there's a problem with the FTP server of my provider at the moment.
Just try a little later on.
CD:)

Turbokeu
03-22-02, 04:00 AM
After 2 days, my provider was still not able to fix the problems with the FTP-server...
I'm really sorry...
Will post a message when FTP is online again.
CD :(