some weird @$$ s***

[funnyperson1]

i ordered a generic retail boxed geforce2 pro from house of computers....the all powerful ups man arrived 30 minutes before i had to leave to go to florida(:))...i was very surprised that the box said powercolor gts2 (i had actually heard of powercolor, and it said gts) dang...this gave me enough time to rip open the retail box and install the card along with the drivers that came with the card....i notice that there is a tiny heatsink on the core and none on the ram chips....the ram is 5ns, i check the utility that came with the card, and the clock is at 200 seeing that it had the same clock speed as a gts i assumed the worst, however now sitting at my dad's laptop i did some research, the pro does come with 5ns ram and the gts with 6, as well the gts and pro have the same clock speed as nvidia realised the bottleneck was the memory....so heres my dilemma, why is it that i got the gf2 pro that i ordered came in the box for a gf2gts, and while all the powercolor products are named as such on hoct why did mine come in a powercolor box(im not sure if the card actually said powercolor on it)....with a gts manual, and software that comes with their retail gts??? Also the box was properly sealed with plastic, and the only indication that i had gotten a gf2 pro was a little sticker on the box...is it possible that house of computers has good boxing capabilities and took an old powercolor box and placed a generic gf2 pro in it??? Or does powercolor make pros that they call gts2S?? Do i have an in between?....I am really confused....and im sure ive done that to you as well...cant wait to get home and tweak the s*** out of it especially since i got a couple of 486 and pentium 1 heatsinkslying around...anyone have an idea?..whoo that was long...

[Monaco]

Well, since there is no company called "Generic", the generic card of the week was from Powercolor. Next week it might be MSI cards, or whatever is cheapest to the store. Generic cards don't come from some shady factory afraid to put a brand name on their product, generic cards typically are name-brand cards w/o box, manual, fancy heatsinks, etc. sold unbranded. Like a White Box or OEM card. The store might buy 100 bare cards, put 'em in ESD bags, and sell 'em cheap.

In your case, sounds like it was easiest for the company to stick your card in some random box they had and shrink-wrap it. Also, why bother to print new boxes-manuals etc when the only diff is teh clock speed?

Check the default memory speed on yer card- if it is 333mhz, it is a GTS. Pros, I believe, have 400mhz memory. That is the deciding factor!

Of course, my GTS is OC'd to 410mhz memory clock, but that is another story.:)

Hope I was at least sorta helpful!

[Billvill]

My Suma Nvidia MX 400 / 64 settings are 200 / 334 out of the box . It is not a GTS or a Pro or an Ultra. I don't know that that is a concrete indicator of what you have.

Billy

[funnyperson1]

yeah, that kinda makes sense...billvill, if you check the ram tell me what speed it is it will say -6T or -6.5T on the ram, you may just have gotten lucky....

[Pinky]

The RAM speed formula, if I remember right, is:

1000 divided by the nano-seconds of the memory...

meaning 5ns DDR would run at 400mhz (which is really 200mhz double since it's DDR) by specs, sometimes higher, but not by much.

[Monaco]

BIll- your MX card has DDR ram on it??? Cool! I thought only the GTS' and up had DDR on them, except that old Creative MX.
Man, I knew I shoulda waited instead of getting that GTS- DOH! Could have saved, what? $50? ARGH>>>>

[funnyperson1]

the mxes can come with ddr ram however they have 64bit ram and not 128 like the gts therefore performing like an sdram mx, also the mx is clocked lower and their pipelines are neutered