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My next upgrade will be a WC'd AMD dualcore (no really, I'm saving 
) with a block on the gpu too, and I'm somewhat split between ideas - I'd appreciate advice from the more experienced posters. True, I don't have too many posting stars, but I've been here quite long enough to know what I'm talking about and enough time at work to dream up ideas.
The Danger Den DD12V-D4 pump is perfect for the PC-60 (yes, sixty) I plan on using. The problem is I don't know if it will be better to use it with a high restriction Cascade/WW/RBX-like block, a high-flow block, or get a high-flow 1250 with the high restriction blocks. I plan on using a Boniville/Caprice heatercore modded into a single-pass (dual barbs per end tanks), dual panaflo M1's, 1/2" tubing, a low restriction GPU block, and possibly running a mini 1/4" line off to the 500watt+ psu and dual HDD's (setup so it doesn't add much heat to the system, just enough to eliminate a fan or two). Chances are it won't be for an ultimate overclock, but you never know...
My guess was that the dualcore wide contact patch will make the WW-type WB's less effective than on a singlecore (but of course, there'll be a IHS now), but then again they perform so well naturally... The GPU WB will further lessen flow, but some of it will be made up due to the rad being a big single-pass. Will there be enough restriction to warrant a high-pressure/medium-flow pump like the DD-D4, or will a medium-head/higher-flow 1250 be better for the WW-like block's design?
I don't want to use a 2nd pump in series, will have very limited space, will have limited funds (since I'll basicly be buying a whole new PC minus a monitor), and want the whole setup to run *dead* silent upon command.
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Esimated setup: AMD dualcore (Intel if its cheaper ) & corisponding dual-channel memory moboard, nVidia 6xxxGT/7xxxGT PCI-e (<3 ATI, will use it they somehow bust out of their rut)...heck why not continue the 'dual' trend - SLI! (j/k), Audigy 2 (or 3 if its in developement and gets true digital spdif-out) or onboard sound for space saving and better gfx memory cooling. Audigy3? NV7k card?! WTF? Yeah, I'm planning ahead... 
The case: I plan on placing the HDD's in the empty 5.25" bays below the optical drives, then fitting the heater core below where the removable cage was. It will be up against the side panel, sucking in through the laser-cut holes (to match the new PC-60 long horizontal blowhole exhaust holes/grill) via dual 120mm M1A's that will sit at a 45 degree angle, pushing out the bottom. Yes, it'll fit - I've made a mockup in my current PC-60 with the fans & 3-D cardboard pieces. The case will also have real Lian-Li castor wheels added like my current PC-60. The fan/pump controller will sit with it's fins in the exhaust vent, using an LM350 regulator to control the pump (only if I can hear it at night @12v) The pump will fit below the GFX card, and the tubing routed in the typical cpu->gpu->pump->rad fasion.
Other ideas include adding 1-2 92mm's below the GFX card for an alternate intake (I'm adding 2 92mm's in my current PC-60 to make a neutral pres. system), keeping dual 80mm's in the front to aid in heatercore air extraction (would add about a net 40cfm with my M1A[80mm]-speed Sunons@12v to the M1A 120mm's max 177cfm), WC'ing the HDD's and PSU by soldering on copper tubng to the aluminum brackets and heatsinks [respectively], since the HDD's are relocated, are isolated from the case [will document this mod soon], and there probably will be less airflow through the case [the heatercore 'duct' will be isolated from the internal area].
One of the best ideas I think I've had, which will almost be downplayed due to it being WC'ed and not aircooled, will be that the LM317/LM350-based fan controller will be controlled not via old-skool, clunky knobs, but via DPDT (probably SPDT to be cheap) 0.67" X 0.365" mini-rocker switches. AFAIK, every other case uses regular old archaic knobs, which are limited to being mounted in bay slots. I was thinking about using slide pots [in intake holes right above the rad] initialy till I got this idea. Once you see it, you'll understand the rocker switchs' usage. Excuse my French, but this case will be F-ing high-tech. Inovation over raw power
Ideas? Suggestions? Questions? Please, don't hold back.
) with a block on the gpu too, and I'm somewhat split between ideas - I'd appreciate advice from the more experienced posters. True, I don't have too many posting stars, but I've been here quite long enough to know what I'm talking about and enough time at work to dream up ideas.The Danger Den DD12V-D4 pump is perfect for the PC-60 (yes, sixty
) I plan on using. The problem is I don't know if it will be better to use it with a high restriction Cascade/WW/RBX-like block, a high-flow block, or get a high-flow 1250 with the high restriction blocks. I plan on using a Boniville/Caprice heatercore modded into a single-pass (dual barbs per end tanks), dual panaflo M1's, 1/2" tubing, a low restriction GPU block, and possibly running a mini 1/4" line off to the 500watt+ psu and dual HDD's (setup so it doesn't add much heat to the system, just enough to eliminate a fan or two). Chances are it won't be for an ultimate overclock, but you never know...My guess was that the dualcore wide contact patch will make the WW-type WB's less effective than on a singlecore (but of course, there'll be a IHS now), but then again they perform so well naturally... The GPU WB will further lessen flow, but some of it will be made up due to the rad being a big single-pass. Will there be enough restriction to warrant a high-pressure/medium-flow pump like the DD-D4, or will a medium-head/higher-flow 1250 be better for the WW-like block's design?
I don't want to use a 2nd pump in series, will have very limited space, will have limited funds (since I'll basicly be buying a whole new PC minus a monitor), and want the whole setup to run *dead* silent upon command.
*******
Esimated setup: AMD dualcore (Intel if its cheaper
) & corisponding dual-channel memory moboard, nVidia 6xxxGT/7xxxGT PCI-e (<3 ATI, will use it they somehow bust out of their rut)...heck why not continue the 'dual' trend - SLI! (j/k), Audigy 2 (or 3 if its in developement and gets true digital spdif-out) or onboard sound for space saving and better gfx memory cooling. Audigy3? NV7k card?! WTF? Yeah, I'm planning ahead... The case: I plan on placing the HDD's in the empty 5.25" bays below the optical drives, then fitting the heater core below where the removable cage was. It will be up against the side panel, sucking in through the laser-cut holes (to match the new PC-60 long horizontal blowhole exhaust holes/grill) via dual 120mm M1A's that will sit at a 45 degree angle, pushing out the bottom. Yes, it'll fit - I've made a mockup in my current PC-60 with the fans & 3-D cardboard pieces. The case will also have real Lian-Li castor wheels added like my current PC-60. The fan/pump controller will sit with it's fins in the exhaust vent, using an LM350 regulator to control the pump (only if I can hear it at night @12v
) The pump will fit below the GFX card, and the tubing routed in the typical cpu->gpu->pump->rad fasion.Other ideas include adding 1-2 92mm's below the GFX card for an alternate intake (I'm adding 2 92mm's in my current PC-60 to make a neutral pres. system), keeping dual 80mm's in the front to aid in heatercore air extraction (would add about a net 40cfm with my M1A[80mm]-speed Sunons@12v to the M1A 120mm's max 177cfm), WC'ing the HDD's and PSU by soldering on copper tubng to the aluminum brackets and heatsinks [respectively], since the HDD's are relocated, are isolated from the case [will document this mod soon], and there probably will be less airflow through the case [the heatercore 'duct' will be isolated from the internal area].
One of the best ideas I think I've had, which will almost be downplayed due to it being WC'ed and not aircooled, will be that the LM317/LM350-based fan controller will be controlled not via old-skool, clunky knobs, but via DPDT (probably SPDT to be cheap) 0.67" X 0.365" mini-rocker switches. AFAIK, every other case uses regular old archaic knobs, which are limited to being mounted in bay slots. I was thinking about using slide pots [in intake holes right above the rad] initialy till I got this idea. Once you see it, you'll understand the rocker switchs' usage. Excuse my French, but this case will be F-ing high-tech. Inovation over raw power
Ideas? Suggestions? Questions? Please, don't hold back.
If my new WC setup uses my current 9800pro, the rad will within half of an inch from it's power connector. About a square inch of fins won't be covered by the upper shroud, but thats assuming the next card I get will be about the same dimentions. I will have to hack up most of the 3.5" bay, although I could also remove it and hardmount the 3.5" covers to the case. Despite my forum name, my plan was to keep the case as low profile as can be. I might add a window, only because a 9.5"x6" row of verticle slats in the lower right corner will look odd all alone.
