GeForce => Quadro Conversion???

[Doctor]

Could some kind soul please point me to a way to convert my GeForce3 to a Quadro. I have seen it somewhere, but can't seem to find it.

TIA,

Doctor

:)

[UnseenMenace]

Try Here (http://www.tweakhardware.com)

[Doctor]

Thanx UnseenMenace!

That link gave me a head start, but it's only for the GeForce2.

Does anyone know of one for the GeForce3?

TIA,

Doctor

[redduc900]

AFAIK, there isn't support for GeForce 3/Quadro DCC configurations in SoftQuadro as of yet. As far as the "transistor mod" to a GeForce 3, I don't know if that's been done yet...I haven't seen any articles on the conversion.

If you're interested in reading about or downloading SoftQuadro, here are a couple of links...

http://www.guru3d.com/rivatuner/softquadro

http://www.guru3d.com/rivatuner/download_soft.shtml

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[oc jason]

as far as i know changing a GeForce 2 to a Quadro makes games slower, and it has been proen in the FPS. It is just better for large apps:(

[Pinky]

Geforce 3 cards are still relatively expensive, so experimentation would be costly, possibly why it has not been done yet... also, I don't know that the quadro instructionsa re on the geforce 3 to begin with (as they were on the gf2).

[Bender]

When I modded my Geforce2 ddr I had no drop in FPS in games and my 3d mark score was exactly the same. The only thing it does is improve programs that support the extra features the quadro chip has.

[Doctor]

Thanx Guys!

Doctor

[TUK101]

As of right now are there even any games that would benefit from anything faster than a stock Geforce 3? What would be the benefit? And would it be worth the $400 dollar risk? Before you go and ruin that Geforce 3, send it to me please, I would love to have one. Now running my MX200 in quad, I'd take that risk, it's only 50 bucks. Don't mean to bust your chops, just find it interesting that somebody would want to modify the best card on the market for gaming.

[Doctor]

Originally posted by TUK101
As of right now are there even any games that would benefit from anything faster than a stock Geforce 3? What would be the benefit? And would it be worth the $400 dollar risk? Before you go and ruin that Geforce 3, send it to me please, I would love to have one. Now running my MX200 in quad, I'd take that risk, it's only 50 bucks. Don't mean to bust your chops, just find it interesting that somebody would want to modify the best card on the market for gaming.

:p :Why........ Because it's there, and I'm an OverClocker! :p

Doctor

[TUK101]

Originally posted by Doctor


:p :Why........ Because it's there, and I'm an OverClocker! :p

Doctor Right On!!! Lol thats a pretty good reason in my book. I guess if you have the money, then it's all good. Have fun, and let us know how it works when you get it all figured out.:D

[Arkaine23]

I see this post is very old, but if any1 is still looking for this info, there is a guide in the madonion forums under software/drivers. All you have to do is dowload a prog or two, get some old detonators, and alter them. This improves OpenGL performance, although I've seen mixed reviews.

[Dissolved]

Doctor:

http://discuss.madonion.com/forum/dosearch.pl

go there and serch.... about 300 threads came up... so im sure ull find the best way :)

[Doctor]

Thanks Guyz!

:)

Doc

[Dissolved]

Originally posted by Doctor
Thanks Guyz!

:)

Doc

this would make a good front page if you do this you know? *wink*
:)

[rogue1979]

Most of this stuff is Geforce 2, but the data base might contain Geforce 3 mods.

http://guestbook.cgi.net/ECE9?messpointer=40

Resistor modding a Geforce to a Quadro does not adversely effect fps in gaming or 3DMark scores.

[Maximus Nickus]

I've nearly grasped it but what excatly is converting a card to Quadro?

The joys of oc'ing!:beer:

[Mictlan]

A Quadro based card is a professional solution from nVidia. Is targeted to CAD and/or graphic developers. It allows more complex instruction to be used into graphic developing programs like AutoCAD.....

Since the days of the old GeForce DDR, the same GPU is used in the mainstream and in the advanced user.....seesm that the only difference are some ressistors that allows the GPU to identify itself as a Quadro GPU, instead of a regular GeForce.

There are two ways to convert your GeForce DDR or GeForce 2 into a Quadro card:

Moving some resitors from your graphic card.
Use a script that changes the way the driver identifies the card.

The guy that developed RivaTuner made a script that can be found here (http://www.nvworld.ru/docs/sq.html). (It's in Russian but there is a link there so you can check it in English). He explains a little more about the Quadro differences. If you can grab RivaTuner, this script is included there.

Besides doing it just for the hell of it, as a gamer you don't gain nothing from the change.....If you are a graphic designer you can easily change a US$300 card into a US$1,000 or more card :).....

Reminds me of the way you could change a Promise UltraATA66 IDE card into a UltraATA66 RAID controller :)

[Dissolved]

Originally posted by Mictlan
A Quadro based card is a professional solution from nVidia. Is targeted to CAD and/or graphic developers. It allows more complex instruction to be used into graphic developing programs like AutoCAD.....

Since the days of the old GeForce DDR, the same GPU is used in the mainstream and in the advanced user.....seesm that the only difference are some ressistors that allows the GPU to identify itself as a Quadro GPU, instead of a regular GeForce.

There are two ways to convert your GeForce DDR or GeForce 2 into a Quadro card:

Moving some resitors from your graphic card.
Use a script that changes the way the driver identifies the card.

The guy that developed RivaTuner made a script that can be found here (http://www.nvworld.ru/docs/sq.html). (It's in Russian but there is a link there so you can check it in English). He explains a little more about the Quadro differences. If you can grab RivaTuner, this script is included there.

Besides doing it just for the hell of it, as a gamer you don't gain nothing from the change.....If you are a graphic designer you can easily change a US$300 card into a US$1,000 or more card :).....

Reminds me of the way you could change a Promise UltraATA66 IDE card into a UltraATA66 RAID controller :)


sounds interesting, but i dont see the point..
it sounds like it just improves image quailty?

[Arkaine23]

Reading in the madonion forums about this, it seems to me that:

the main benefit is for monstrous professional graphics programs.

however, ppl also reported drastically improved image quality in opengl applications, including games... I believe the list included Q3A and RTCW. This also reportedly fixed texture-tearing.

As to the detriments... 3dmark scores remain unchanged for the most part, and if there is any fps difference in D3D apps, games, and benchmarks it is so small as to be irrelevant.

In the threads I read, ppl reported improved opengl benchmark scores from 60%-170%. They also have a link to this opengl benchmark for any1 interested. I'm gonna probably do the software mod 1st and see how it goes... But I'm about to reconstruct my Blorb into a silver-based blorb, so I think I might as well move those resistors while I'm at it.

I should have something to report within a week, once I finalize my research and material-gathering. Maybe Doctor will get back to us with the results of his Quadro3 before then.

The software mod is easily reversed since all you have to do is change drivers. The the hardware mod supposedly works better but is harder to reverse.

[Mictlan]

As far as I have heard, the Quadro really shines in professional video design applications (or CAD apps).....some gamming engines *****might***** get an improvement as some new ways to do the samplings and rendering will be available and that might give you a better performance, but you'll have to check by yourself to see if theya re worth it. The software mod will be good to test it. If I recall Placid had some hard data about the difference between the hack and the software patch. Search the data base and you might get those threads.....(I remeber well, as I was doing some research then :))

As for the hardware hack here (http://www.tweakhardware.com/guide/quadro/) is a good place where its explained will some details and here (http://www.tweakhardware.com/guide/quadro-switch/) how to make it reversible.

Hope this helps.....

[KILLorBE]

Originally posted by Mictlan

As for the hardware hack here (http://www.tweakhardware.com/guide/quadro/) is a good place where its explained will some details and here (http://www.tweakhardware.com/guide/quadro-switch/) how to make it reversible.

Hope this helps.....

I don't like the dipswitches, just put a switch in a PCI backplate, its a lot easier, Like this (http://forums.overclockers.ws/vb/attachment.php?s=&postid=444026) or on the backplate of the card.
I should have put the switch on the first time, cuz I got sick of the driver incompatibility the Quadro has (some games work fine, others don't, use different drivers and its the other way around).

If any of you decide to do the Mod I reccommend you use a switch. I had to mod it twice:beer: and the switch helped me to reincarnate my Vcard:p

BTW: The pic doesn't show the switch real well, and the red circles show a condensation problem:eh?:

[Yodums]

I tried to do the Quadron with my card but the R121 -> R123 and R122 -> R124 are right beside my bios chip and the labelling was really bad so I didn't want to take my chances.

The quality mod was good enough..

Yodums

[Arkaine23]

Slorb installed. Used SoftQuadro on 22.40's. 3dmark up by 196 for these two mods. 281/535

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http://gamershq.madonion.com/compare2k1.shtml?2552140

[CPFitz14]

wow, dug up this old thread. $300 for a gf3. LOL man times change quickly.