increase core or memory clock frequency?

[guppie]

Increasing core or memory clock frequency will give the best bang in performance? Also, what is an acceptable setting for this particular card. I can no longer monitor the temps cuz only the LeadTek drivers had hardware monitoring and LeadTek doesn't have 12.90 drivers... BUMMER! But what would be an acceptable overclock range for both frequencies to give me a liitle increase in performance. My 3dMark2001 scores are right in line (100%) with comparison to standards. (3640) - finally I'm happy with the stability and overall performance of this system. It took a while!

[Angry]

From what I havr read the Geforce chips benefit more from more memory bandwidth than any core clock increase....Guess thats why most cards come with ram sinks?

[Pinky]

You won't need to monitor the temps anyway. If the card overheats, it causing lockups or visual artifacting/distortion.

Use NVMax (http://speshalk.dyndns.org:1812/programs/NVmax.exe) to increase your clock/memory settings 5mhz at a time. When the image becomes distorted in any way, lower that setting until it stops distorting.

You'll get up to 400mhz with that memory, maybe even more.

[Silversinksam]

Pinky, I have a question?

Do all those stars you have give you psychic overclocking mystical superpowers :confused:

I say this because how the heck do you know what memory speed his GF2 pro has ;) Could be 5ns, or 5.5 ns ram

In any event Pinky your cool in my book. With or without psychic overclocking powers.


PS, Guppie those leadtek drivers stink, actually I had a Leadtek GF2 pro 64ddr and upgraded to a Leadtek Gf2 Ultra and the Ultra doesnt support the hardware monitoing that the Pro used to, but to be frank you dont need it anyway. The Pro I had ran best at around 225/415

If you still have the stock Leadtek heatsink with the vectored air, I recommend you replace that pathetic fan and replace it with a Sunnon 40mill x 40 mill x 20mill fan. Your card will thank you.

[Pinky]

Originally posted by Silversinksam
Pinky, I have a question?

Do all those stars you have give you psychic overclocking mystical superpowers :confused:

I say this because how the heck do you know what memory speed his GF2 pro has ;) Could be 5ns, or 5.5 ns ram

In any event Pinky your cool in my book. With or without psychic overclocking powers.

lol

I've seen the leadteks overclock pretty good.

You're right, they do come in 5.5ns variety (the "enhanced" *cough* crappier card). Unfortunately the fact he has the hardware monitor does tell me he has the 5.5ns variety.

So I recant my prior position, put the crystal ball away, and admit defeat.

He will probably still get 400mhz from that memory anyway :p.

[TUK101]

Originally posted by Pinky
You won't need to monitor the temps anyway. If the card overheats, it causing lockups or visual artifacting/distortion.

Use NVMax (http://speshalk.dyndns.org:1812/programs/NVmax.exe) to increase your clock/memory settings 5mhz at a time. When the image becomes distorted in any way, lower that setting until it stops distorting.

You'll get up to 400mhz with that memory, maybe even more. Hey Pinky, you have had some really good info that I have gotten from you. Will that NVmax also work on my MX200, I know that it is a crappy card, but I am stuck with it for now, so anything would help.

[RedDeathDrinker]

nVMax will work on just about any card with the GeF2 chipset.

BTW Pinky, have you seen the avatar Alan did for you?

It's at the bottom of the huge avatar thread in gen. discussion.....lol!

[!-=sky=-!]

i think nvmax works for all geforce cards as far as i know
it is almost compatible with all driver versions

[guppie]

Pinky, I've done the CoolBits registry hack. Should I undo it and use NVMax instead?

SilverSinkSam, how do you mount a newer fan on that thing? I'm pretty sure its a single HSF unit, so that would require a new heat sink as well, right? Or do I just need a new fan? One other thing, will it be able to plug into the existing power source connector on the video card or do I have to use a 4-pin connector? Your suggestions will be appreciated!

[Pinky]

Originally posted by guppie
Pinky, I've done the CoolBits registry hack. Should I undo it and use NVMax instead?

SilverSinkSam, how do you mount a newer fan on that thing? I'm pretty sure its a single HSF unit, so that would require a new heat sink as well, right? Or do I just need a new fan? One other thing, will it be able to plug into the existing power source connector on the video card or do I have to use a 4-pin connector? Your suggestions will be appreciated!

Nah, keep coolbits on -- it won't affect NVmax or powerstrip from running. Then you can always decide to use it. Remember, it only works with non-standard drivers. I use the 12.90

I only use coolbits now, get a standard overclock for this card from it which is fine for me.

You get there by going into your display properties, advanced, click the geforce card tab and there should be an addition properties button toward the bottom.

You might want to overclock first, see how far it goes with the stock heatsink and fan before performing surgery.

TUK -- yes, NVmax works well on all detonator driven cards... it's uses features built in the drivers.

[Silversinksam]

To mount a fan like this(any will work Sunon has a nice 40x40x20 that has 8.7 CFM and this delta pictured below is nice too: http://www.excess-solutions.com./images/2338.jpg



To affix the new fan to your Leadtek GF2 Pro with One piece Vectored heatsinkhttp://www.leadtek.com/geforce2/gts64-new-s.jpg


You have a few options:

Option A: Use a small amount of Silicone sealant on the corners to glue the new fan to the vectored heatsink, a 40 millx 40 mill x20 is a perfect fit for the heatsink

Option B: Use a little superglue on the corners

Option C: GO to a hardware store and find the appropriate size screw

Now there is one more thing to keep in mind, You can Stack the 40x40x 20mil fan on top of the existing fan and that way you can continue to use the Leadtek monitoring software, or you can simply discard the stock fan and this gives the Video card a little extra juice so to speak as the AGP slot only provides so much power for your video card, and eliminating the stock fan gives you a little more power. Downside is you lose the monitoring feature, and you have to disable that feature or you'll get warning beeps from the utility. Hense using a Molex 4 pin connector is recommended as the itty bitty fan Leadtek provides is lower in amperage than the new fan will need.

I tried it both ways and according to my Digital Doc the stacking method produced the same temps as having a single 40 x 40 x 20 mill fan.(but the air disturbance may be a good attribute)Either way will work. BUT by adding a 40x40x20 fan you will see A HUGE Improvment and Im not talking about 2 or 3 degrees.:eek: ;)


PS added this: As my Psychic Overclocking friend Pinky suggested get some readings before and after you instal NVMAX(Which is a kick@ss program);):p Pinky just sent a telepathic message to me to tell you to also try before and after readings after you install the new fan.

Thanks Pinky

[Cocytus]

I would recomend using powerstrip to overclock your vid card it works great.

[Pinky]

Originally posted by Silversinksam
PS added this: As my Psychic Overclocking friend Pinky suggested get some readings before and after you instal NVMAX(Which is a kick@ss program);):p Pinky just sent a telepathic message to me to tell you to also try before and after readings after you install the new fan.

Thanks Pinky

Now I'm wondering who's better at telepathy, because I think you're reading my mind :p.

[Mindflayr]

Im kinda curious about this too- i just built a new Athlon 1.2 with a geforce2 Ultra GTS 64 from leadtek and as far as i can tell Leadteks WinFox utility allows me to overclock without 3rd party software? would you just recomend tweaking with that or should i look into powerstrip, NVmax or other 3rd party OCing utilities for the Geforce

[Cocytus]

All I can tell ya is Ive been using powerstrip to overclock my GeForce2 ultra for the past 4 months and have had no problems.

[Starfire_MK2]

Here's a great program for GeForce cards. I use it with my GTS2, and it works great. A little more intimidating that NVMax at first, but it allows for more tweaking.
http://www.geforcetweak.com/
Good luck

[Josh]

Originally posted by guppie
Increasing core or memory clock frequency will give the best bang in performance? Also, what is an acceptable setting for this particular card. I can no longer monitor the temps cuz only the LeadTek drivers had hardware monitoring and LeadTek doesn't have 12.90 drivers... BUMMER! But what would be an acceptable overclock range for both frequencies to give me a liitle increase in performance. My 3dMark2001 scores are right in line (100%) with comparison to standards. (3640) - finally I'm happy with the stability and overall performance of this system. It took a while!

i have the exact same card running the 12.90 drivers and hardware monitoring works just great for me. stock cooling brought me up to 220/420 with 100 loops of 3dmark2001 for stability. if i ever remove stock cooling i may be able to squeeze a little more out of it.

Josh