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gixxerguy98
08-15-04, 06:43 PM
I was looking at this for the CPU http://www.frozencpu.com/cgi-bin/frozencpu/ex-blc-106.html and maybe a Danger Den Maze 4 or a swiftech with TEC for the GPU. With this pump http://www.shamanshop.net/store/proddetail.cfm/ItemID/2401.0/CategoryID/10000.0/SubCatID/785.0/file.htm



What radiator? What fans on it. I want to go some what quiet but I am used to a 92mm tornado. Should I get water block for northbridge? TEC? 1/2" lines right?

I am not sure about the rest of the stuff. But that is why I am making this post.

Thanks in advance,
Darrell

Aphex_Tom_9
08-15-04, 06:58 PM
Nice blocks! good pump, but you're gonna need a big rad for that heat! a dual heatercore at least, and you dont need powerful fans on a rad, if you have 2x120mm fans with about 80+cfm each, that's fine id say.

Fushyuguru
08-16-04, 12:07 PM
No offense but if this is your first run on WC'ing. I wouldnt push TEC's. Youd be taking on alot and your learning curve better be steep. Remember you need seperate DC power supplies for the TEC's. Study all you can on insulating your sockets, especially if you get discouraged by dead HW. Study up and youre rig will be fine.

I agree and suggest a heatercore at a min. If you do go with TEC's youll be dumping alot of heat into the coolant so youll need a secondary rad, or an oversized 2 fan rad if you dont like having a blazing 120mm fan on a steaming single heatercore. Fans, I like panaflo's, sunons or aluminum evercools. Good performance and noise. Can be pricier though.

The via aqua's I havent heard much about, seems good for the price, I just dont know about any MTBF issues. As you probably already know your other options are an eheim 1250 and hydor L35 to match up with that big boy you have picked out.

1/2" ID lines always. Youre pushing alot of heat you want to push a high volume of coolant. I suggest 3603 grade tygon. I like 1/8" wall thickness to reduce kinks. Though if you think about your rig setup, that wont be a problem. You can find a good price on bulk tygon here: www.mcmaster.com

Yeah id suggest a northbridge cooler. You want to pump fsb speeds your gonna need good nb cooling. Run it in parallel with GPU especially with a TEC on vid card.

gixxerguy98
08-16-04, 02:17 PM
Thanks for the advice. One of the main reason I want TEC's is because I am running a TEC air cooled now. I have one of the best northbridge air coolers around.

2 reasons I am going to WC noise and case temps. The TEC on the CPU made my case temps so high the my vid card has problems from all the case heat when it wasn't even OC'd. So now I am going to a x800 pro soft moded to xt or a xt. and going WC to keep that crap from happening.

BTW you mean heater core as in the infamous Chevette one? Or should I buy comp specifics? Money is no object I just like it to fly. I am used to have close to the best stuff. I work are so I can play fast. ;)

Thanks again keep them coming.

ZachM
08-16-04, 06:16 PM
Heck, I would go phase change on the CPU, and normal water cooling on the video card and northbridge (heh, kinda like Fushy's setup).

If you still want to do TECs then you'll need a beast of a water cooling setup to handle the heat from them. I suggest at least one dual 120mm fan heatercore. The Fedco single pass would be a good choice. There is also the Thermochill 120x3 rad. It's comp specific (think expensive), but it flows well. Couple that with one maybe two D4/Swiftech MCW650 pumps to give plenty of flow. That's one heck of a water cooling setup, and coupled with that pelt will probably give near or slightly below 0 idle temps on the CPU. Of course a high-end vapo chill can give you around -30C idle.

envy
08-17-04, 05:13 AM
What you have picked out looks good, you may very well need 2 radiators or heatercores to deal with that though, its a pretty strong pelt.. Try going to your local salvage yard and asking if they can rip a heatercore from an old car for you, they'll be cheap down there and you could get a couple, just make sure you have enough flow to handle it.

You dont absolutely have to go 1/2" ID, 3/8" tubing will only raise your temperature ever so slightly (i think its 0.001 of a degree c) and the latter also looks much cleaner and is easier to use if you havent watercooled before, it is also much more supple (sp?) so you run less risk of putting too much pressure on a block and reducing the contact area.

If you are serious about overclocking, then cool your northbridge too, some say its still overkill, but it will help you squeeze a few extra mhz out of your fsb :)

Good luck and Welcome to the Forums !!!