guess whats in the new adata 566 mhz modules

[flapperhead]

u guys may have seen this already, i thought it was very interesting..
http://www.bleedinedge.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3403

[Reefa_Madness]

I ran across this recently and then the same topic yesterday, somewhere else, which prompted me to send an e-mail to Randy at Komusa, asking if this is something that they were planning on stocking/adding to their HyperRam line.

I'll let everyone know what his response is, provided I get one. I dropped your name so I don't know if that will help or hinder. What kind of terms are you on with them this week? :)

[Reefa_Madness]

Here is where I ran across the topic yesterday.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?postid=503928#post503928

This chip is making a big splash.

[Reefa_Madness]

flapper,

Check this out - DDR700 in single channel!!!

Now, don't you WANT some of this?

Page 2, Post#11, same thread.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?threadid=39522&perpage=25&pagenumber=2

[Reefa_Madness]

Sorry for all the consecutive posts guys, I'm really not trying to get my count up.

Checked e-mail and guess what...he must not have seem your name on my e-mail, because it was answered. This is a partial transcript of the response that I received from Randy, of Komusa, in response to my question as to whether this product (Adata DDR566) would be added to their HyperRam line any time soon.

"The DDR566 is still under technical sorting"

Well, there you have it. Informative wasn't it?

At least he took the time to respond, so I'll give him credit for that.

By the way, doesn't this whole Samsung/Adata thing provide additional information which leans towards the conclusion that Adata does not manufacture their own ICs?

[flapperhead]

flapper,

Check this out - DDR700 in single channel!!!

Now, don't you WANT some of this?

Page 2, Post#11, same thread.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?threadid=39522&perpage=25&pagenumber=2


GOOD GOD!!!! thats 2.8ns !!! i gotta get me some....... thnx for the info guy

[flapperhead]

im spending ALL time trying to keep my old house from falling down, screw the house. im gonna mod out my other ic7. i have my priorities, overcloking comes first...

[Reefa_Madness]

I'm with you flapper, you've got to get your priorities straight if you're going to succeed.

And you've got them straight! Hehehe

I hope you can find those chips. There was a link to an Italian (I think) site that stocked them on the first page of that thread. You're going to need a currency converter (and maybe a translator, too).

[flapperhead]

I'm with you flapper, you've got to get your priorities straight if you're going to succeed.

And you've got them straight! Hehehe

I hope you can find those chips. There was a link to an Italian (I think) site that stocked them on the first page of that thread. You're going to need a currency converter (and maybe a translator, too).


yeah i know what u mean. u.s. is the biggest market and seems we always get alot of stuff last..do u think the ocz stuff will work??. or is the vitesta 566 specially tested just for speed??? cause anadtech could only get 283 out of them..

[Reefa_Madness]

flapper,

I think it is always a crapshoot. But then who shoots craps, expecting guaranteed winnings? Its the exitement of the gamble that makes you roll the dice. These kinds of performance figures are still on the extreme and far from common, everyday occurrances. To quote another partial line from a movie..."Do you feel lucky?". You know that is a big part of it, regardless of whether our egos care to admit it or not.

[mattspalace]

Dang! I need to see what this corsair will do with 3-4-4-8 timings and some volts..

[flapperhead]

flapper,

I think it is always a crapshoot. But then who shoots craps, expecting guaranteed winnings? Its the exitement of the gamble that makes you roll the dice. These kinds of performance figures are still on the extreme and far from common, everyday occurrances. To quote another partial line from a movie..."Do you feel lucky?". You know that is a big part of it, regardless of whether our egos care to admit it or not.


yes u are right, but good god that thread u posted!! ddr700!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! somethings definitely cooking under the hood of those sammy chips!!!

hey matt if u have the sammy chips, hows about a 3.4.4.8 at max vdimm test??? (pleeze)

[mattspalace]

Will do. Prolly have to run my 2.4C M0 as I'm sure my 2.8C isn't going to do 280FSB - wish she would though! So what vDimm you want it at - since I have the DDR Booster? I have up to 3.6v - I'd like to keep it at or below 3.4v though.

[flapperhead]

Will do. Prolly have to run my 2.4C M0 as I'm sure my 2.8C isn't going to do 280FSB - wish she would though! So what vDimm you want it at - since I have the DDR Booster? I have up to 3.6v - I'd like to keep it at or below 3.4v though.

as fast as u can go and as hi a voltage as u feel comfortable with.. those numbers are amazing. since ur stuff is the same chips as in the adata pc566, im hoping ur stuff will fly too.. thnx a ton matt

[mattspalace]

No prob.. Prolly won't get around to swapping in the 2.4C until tomorrow night, but I've been thinking about doing it anyway, so this will give me a good excuse.

[Reefa_Madness]

These are the kind of "product" reviews that are priceless. Ideal conditions to see what it will really do, outside of the labs. Doesn't get any better than that.

[Reefa_Madness]

yes u are right, but good god that thread u posted!! ddr700!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! somethings definitely cooking under the hood of those sammy chips!!!



That was impressive. I had to save that screen shot myself, just for grins. That is the only way I'll ever see it.

[flapperhead]

That was impressive. I had to save that screen shot myself, just for grins. That is the only way I'll ever see it.

exactly, like u said this screenshot was done by a regular guy, not in some testing lab. thats what really impressed the heck out of me..

[OC Noob]

flapper,

Check this out - DDR700 in single channel!!!

Now, don't you WANT some of this?

Page 2, Post#11, same thread.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?threadid=39522&perpage=25&pagenumber=2

Damn, I just got some PC4200 from Komusa and got a couple of bum sticks. They won't even do 280 FSB. Isn't that the way stuff always works... you get something and the next day you find out something great is out now.

Crap, I wonder if I can RMA it restocking fee or not for some of the new stuff.

[flapperhead]

Damn, I just got some PC4200 from Komusa and got a couple of bum sticks. They won't even do 280 FSB. Isn't that the way stuff always works... you get something and the next day you find out something great is out now.

Crap, I wonder if I can RMA it restocking fee or not for some of the new stuff.

i have an ic7 and i found that i could get an extra 15 mhz with a vdimm mod. the stock 2.78volts just wasnt enuff. the hyperram(adata chips) perform bests at 2.9-3.0 volts.

[Reefa_Madness]

Haven't we become somewhat spoiled when we consider ram that does 280 to be crappy ram?

By the way, Komusa is not going to be carrying it any time soon, as per a phone call with Randy today.

[flapperhead]

Haven't we become somewhat spoiled when we consider ram that does 280 to be crappy ram?

By the way, Komusa is not going to be carrying it any time soon, as per a phone call with Randy today.


yeah really.. lol .. so it gonna be a no go for the 566?? darn..

[Jess1313]

ddr700
sadly its not:(

because he has a 4 multi, it sets ram devisor to 4:5=280mhz

still good though....

[flapperhead]

sadly its not:(

because he has a 4 multi, it sets ram devisor to 4:5=280mhz

still good though....

hey jess im a little confused . do u mean the link that reefa posted isnt ddr 700?

[Jess1313]

sadly this is what i mean:(

ok for a64 the HTT(fsb):Ram ratio is controled by your cpu multi, sorta....

if i set bios to 200:200 and select a 10 cpu multipier the HTT:Ram ratio is 10:10, if i select 9 cpu multipier then HTT:RAM is 9:9.....

ok if i set bios to 166:200, and cpu multi to 10, then the ratio is 10/12(5/6), and if it set cpu multi to 8 then it is 8/10.

but there is a problem, the lower number in thoughs ratios, like CPU multi/10, or cpu multi/8, only goes down to cpu mult/5, so when cpu multi is 4 then you get a 4/5 ram:htt(fsb) ratio.......

4(cpu multi)x350htt@4:5(should be 4:4 but a64 only goes as low as cpu/5)=280mhz :cry: , not 350......

[flapperhead]

i dont own an a64 so i sure aint trying to come off as an expert. what i was looking at was the clockgen numbers.. it shows a 350 fsb and a 350 memory clock and then the 4 looks to me like the multiplier for the cpu..

[Jess1313]

yes the 4 is the cpu multi, because it is the CPU multi(in combonation w/ bios setting) that sets Ram ratio and there is a bug w/ clock gen that doesnt detect that the 4:5 ratio w/ a 4 cpu multi.....

just for the record, w/ the shuttle in my sig, and my OCZ4400, i can get 5x280(at 5:5 mem), but w/ 4 cpu multi(4:5 ram) i can get 333htt(fsb). clock gen displays this as 4x333HTT, 333mem, but this is not true, because i have a 4 cpu multi, and the lowest devisor is 5, so it comes out to be 4:5(if i had a 5 cpu multi it would be 5:5, if i had a 6 it would be 6:6, if i had a 7...7:7, and 8....8:8, and a 9...9:9.....10....10:10.....etc....but there is NO cpu/4........)

so 333htt(4:5ram.......4x(cpu multi)333)=277mhz(that comes out about right, because i can only get 280 w/ 5:5......)

EDIT: this is a hard consept to grasp, because it is very different from previous platforms, i uderstand it, but am not very good at explaining it....:(

But what it comes down to is with a 4x CPU multiplier the mem is not running 1:1 as reported. So anytime you see someone posting results with a 4x multpier it is not as it seems.

Ask them to give you a screen shot of it at that HTT&mem speed with the multipier set to 7,8 or 9.

This is & a64 issue only.

BTW - I am no where close to any kinda expert either-he he

[mattspalace]

Here's how my Corsair 3200XL with Samsung TCCD's did.... Not so great. With 3.2v and 3-4-4-8 timings, the highest I could get was 265FSB. I know it's the memory because I'm currently running my 2.4C at 275FSB with a 5:4 ratio completely stable - and I've ran it as high as 285FSB with a DC kit of Adata memory. UGH! I wish someone would release some DDR600!!!

[flapperhead]

Here's how my Corsair 3200XL with Samsung TCCD's did.... Not so great. With 3.2v and 3-4-4-8 timings, the highest I could get was 265FSB. I know it's the memory because I'm currently running my 2.4C at 275FSB with a 5:4 ratio completely stable - and I've ran it as high as 285FSB with a DC kit of Adata memory. UGH! I wish someone would release some DDR600!!!

thnx matt. thats still pretty good for low latency ram.

[mattspalace]

Yeah it's alright.. Guess to get the kind of performance I want I'll have to move to DDR2, which means new mobo, new CPU, new memory,etc..etc..

[flapperhead]

Yeah it's alright.. Guess to get the kind of performance I want I'll have to move to DDR2, which means new mobo, new CPU, new memory,etc..etc..

well im still hoping for some 300 mhz stuff cause,the 566(adata) is 283 mhz and that isnt too far from 300. but i not gonna hold my breath...

[mattspalace]

Flapper, where did you get that Shikaram you tested?

[flapperhead]

i bought it from the memory depot in canada. it has hynix bt/d5 chips.


i bought em for 185.00 (expensive) 2x256..they run about 292. actually the fastest stick i ever tested was a 256 stick of simpletech nitro. it was rated for pc4000 speeds at 2.6volts. boy did it fly, 310 mhz. i sold it which wasnt smart cause that was when adata and ocz came out saying they were gonna put out ddr600.. it was a perfect testing stick .i could have loaned it to all the guys here that wanted to test over 290 with a stick of ram 1-1 that was capable of 300...

[mattspalace]

ohhh..

[flapperhead]

ill probably end up selling the shikaram to someone for a big loss. oh well.

[Snipester]

i dunt understand why u need to up the speeds so high??

on samsung TCCD chips?

I bought some generic Hynix Bt-D43 and it runs 3-4-4-8 @ 285 2.85v

[flapperhead]

i dont really need it its just my goal to run 300+ 1-1. btw thats nice ram. if ur running 2 sticks there is a good chance one of the sticks will run fasterthan 285. have u tested to see how fast each one is.??

[OC Noob]

i have an ic7 and i found that i could get an extra 15 mhz with a vdimm mod. the stock 2.78volts just wasnt enuff. the hyperram(adata chips) perform bests at 2.9-3.0 volts.

I have the OCZ Booster and tried all volts.


Haven't we become somewhat spoiled when we consider ram that does 280 to be crappy ram?

By the way, Komusa is not going to be carrying it any time soon, as per a phone call with Randy today.

It won't do 280. I'm not sure what it will do, but its rated at what, 533 mhz, so 560 mhz at higher voltages isn't expecting that much, IMO.

I'm certainly disapointed after putting out well over $300 for the ram and booster, but thats the way overclocking goes. Better luck next time hopefully.


What is really disapointing i guess, is having a Proc that will do 300 FSB+ and not having ram (1:1) and motherboards to match. I'd love to see what this thing tops out at, but probably never will.

[flapperhead]

i know what u mean.. b4 i blew up my beloved ic7 i spent almost a year getting all the right stuff a real fast 2.4c, i fully modded out my ic7, and even got a prommy that enabled me to run 335/340 stable.. my last endeavor was the ram. unfortunately the only stick i ever owned that would top 300 was a stick of pc4000 simpletech nitro.since ocz and adata came out with ddr 600 a couple months ago i went and sold it. so far no one has put out ddr 600 yet. although the adata pc566 looks promising

[Xception]

although the adata pc566 looks promising

I have read a little about it but don't see it on the shelves yet. When do you think they will start retailing it ? I am on my third week waiting to get a set of 4200 that will do 280.

[flapperhead]

I have read a little about it but don't see it on the shelves yet. When do you think they will start retailing it ? I am on my third week waiting to get a set of 4200 that will do 280.

i have been checking.. absolutely no one in america has it. and no one overseas will sell me some..WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA !!!!!

[mattspalace]

I'd be happy with 285FSB since that's what my 2.4C tops out at - I have yet to find some that will do it in dual channel..

[OC Noob]

It turns out 275 is doable, but 280 as of yet is a no go. I'm scouting a P4 that won't take such high FSB like a 2.8 or 3.0 ghz.

AND I'm looking to do a PSU mod for more consistent voltage. Acording to my mobo reading, my voltages are all over the place:eek:

[Reefa_Madness]

EDIT: this is a hard consept to grasp, because it is very different from previous platforms, i uderstand it, but am not very good at explaining it....:(


I obviously have alot of studying to do, because what you are saying is so foreign to me. It is not how you explain it, it is just that the nature of the platform is different. Wow, I just didn't realize how different!

[Xception]

I do have my 256 adata modules running at 285 1:1 dual channel but want the 512 modules that can do at least 280 and I would crap if I could get some that would do 285 :D