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There is one way for unlocking multiplier on FCPGA celeron.
One of my friend has information of soldering something to the chip and that should unlock the multiplier.
He will give me full instructions as soon as possible!
I'm not sure can I belive that...but maybe I have to.
So, let's rock!!!
no there isnt. kick your friend because its not possible unless you own a 40 billion dollar chip factory.
Zuck Gou :)
08-28-01, 02:29 AM
I don't believe it
But hey lets give him the benefit of the doubt.
Sure would be nice to have unlocked multipliers, so lets stay optimistic.
:)
Would it be worth soldering something onto the chip? Wouldnt the extreme heat from the soldring gun burn the chip? Man as cheap as the Celerons are, why cant we just be happy that we can OC them at all? Would be nice though being able to unlock them to set them anywhere that you wanted to. Sounds like a cool idea, but I dont think that I will take the chance on ruining my Celeron 800, i'll leave it alone.
mikyseee
08-28-01, 06:03 AM
If the instructions are easy, I might try it since I have a spair celeron lying around. That is unless a lot of people say its not gonna work.
The Overclocker
08-28-01, 07:15 AM
if you trust this guy, do it
JaY_III
08-28-01, 11:37 AM
If i had the power i would close this thred right now.
Intel chip have been locked both up and down since Aug of 98.
Intel chips are locked at the fab, and are locked internally.
No L1 bridge to pencil... the multiplier has nothig to do with the resistors under the cpu either.
They are locked for life and that is a fact
UnseenMenace
08-28-01, 11:49 AM
Some people work out how to increase the voltage on a mobo with a modification and others have worked out how to modify the Geforce graphic cards to display as a Quadro card.. If it was as simple as soldering something to the CPU it would have been discovered a long time ago.. I don't believe your friend.
The holy grail of Intel overclockers has not yet been found, IMHO
Originally posted by UnseenMenace
Some people work out how to increase the voltage on a mobo with a modification and others have worked out how to modify the Geforce graphic cards to display as a Quadro card.. If it was as simple as soldering something to the CPU it would have been discovered a long time ago.. I don't believe your friend.
The holy grail of Intel overclockers has not yet been found, IMHO
No, the Grail is out there....it's called an ENGINEERING SAMPLE :D
BTW...I DO have the power to close this thread, but this topic usually leads to some pretty good discussions on intel architecture. This isn't the first nor will be the last thread concerning unlocking intel processors......
I agree that if it were possible, it would have been done long ago, but I think reading threads like this helps people understand HOW the intel chips work.
AmbientFiction
08-28-01, 10:10 PM
It lies in the core intel nuters the connection between the core and the bridge. That is why we are all SOL in this matter. If you open the core then your SOL because in most cases the CPU will no longer work because you let out all of the magic somke.
So untill we can find a way to do it with out breaking the CPU then were screwed.
Octoman
08-28-01, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by Mr B
No, the Grail is out there....it's called an ENGINEERING SAMPLE :D
Hahahaha I have one QM50ES:D
Can we just make a "UNLOCK THE INTEL MULTIPLIER HERE" sticky so I don't have to read anymore of these threads?
Sure, I'd love for someone to crack it but at the same time I honestly believe it will never be done.
Hate to be a stick in the mud but these threads make me wanna barf anymore.
cyberey66
08-28-01, 11:19 PM
I wished I worked for an overclocking site. You guys always get stuff to test from companies and review including engineering samples. What do you guys do with all the stuff when your done?
Ebay? lol
It would be fun to play with and engineering sample but I heard they can be buggy and unstable sometimes.
Don't ever say to close these types of threads I like them and people learn from them and thats what the forums are about. Hey it might turn into another one of the "Smoked you all thread" If you havn't read it, please read it. I still get a good chuckle from the benchmark pics at the end.
Yeah..I know that this should be impossible!!!! Just wanna be
sure, so I'm going to find out. Damn, I just got P2 333 without
mult. lock! But when I used tape for VID pins to get 2,2V for core, I't won't work anymore...exept up to 2,5x133(333MHz),
3x100MHz doesn't work. Before that modification, It was fine
at 4x100MHz!!! I removed tapes but still not working properly.
Thirus44
08-29-01, 02:37 AM
How much do you think the holy grail is worth? I bet somone high up at intel is holding the key. We should kiddnap him and force him to tell us!:cool:
I don't beleive intel have made it practically possible to unlock the multiplyer, and no one daft enough to believe it could be done could work out how to do it :D
[Oc]acaridans
08-29-01, 10:08 PM
Originally posted by Ebola
no there isnt. kick your friend because its not possible unless you own a 40 billion dollar chip factory.
LOL...That says it all.
well... I was able to unlock the multiplier for my sister's 400 celeron!! (of course it doesn't process anything and she was a little ****ed about the crack.... but i did it!!!)
Thirus44
08-30-01, 12:29 AM
Lol that helps.
stompah
08-30-01, 02:05 PM
Not knowing about chip architecture. There is no way to make a MB that could crack/fool the CPU?
Ok if Intel would like to keep its highend CPUs locked I can see that but why the lowly Celeron series? Most of them are in prefabbed boxes checking email. Why not give the O/C communtity something to get exicted about? So many Intel users are going to AMD cuz they are more O/C friendly.
If there were a way of doing it, then it would have been done by now. Intel doesn't have much business sense, it see's a small minority of users getting what they consider something for nothing and cuts it's nose off to spite it's face and pushes them to amd. Go Intel!
We can't unlock the multiplier because nobody even knows for sure what or where it is, or how it works! Intel won't even tell us that much. :( They don't trust us even that far.....
I'm sure it would involve something so sophisticated that only Intel could do it in the first place, anyway. I'm just curious as to how it works.
Intel = punks.
But smart punks!
Intel are nothing like punk, they are the complete opposite.
Thirus44
08-30-01, 04:16 PM
yeah we are the punks. hehe
I got the spiky hair!
now if only I could find my grandma's blue rinse
cyberey66
08-30-01, 07:32 PM
Is the multiplier lock that big of a deal anyway? I do think it is in the EEPROM it makes sence how this one web site put it. Check out this link it's pretty cool to read
http://www.hardwarecentral.com/hardwarecentral/tutorials/829/5/
It's not a huge deal no, but if say with my celeron 600 I could disable the lock the I could set the multiplyer low and whack my fsb up, plus all those people that lumbered themselfs with celeron 700 (cCO and older) or similar could run at spec bus speeds
AmbientFiction
08-30-01, 09:37 PM
The thing is that people are trying to go for max MHZ well thats all well and good btu hey look at it like this FSB makes the system faster so I would set the mult low enough that I could get the max FSB that my system could push.
cyberey66
08-30-01, 10:25 PM
It's not just the Mhz at all. Some people just like to overkill their system with a processor with high Mhz. Its also how your system is set up. An unlocked multiplier would be great especialy for me and my celeron 433. I have it running at 83 fsb and that isn't the best choose when the pci bus is 41 instead of 33. With an unlocked chip I would kick it down a little and run it at 100fsb.
Well I can't see Intel ever unlocking their celerons, it would allow us to run them at P3 fsbs and have very similar results to P3s. Celerons are the same core as P3s so that would be a bad idea for Intel.
Wouldn't it be great if Intel released a little series of unlocked P3s with no warrentee from Intel.:D That would be a great idea for both Intel and us. And the kick down on those stupid kids yelling Intel sux! Intel sux! and not even knowing about what they're talking about.
"Its not the size of the Mhz, its how you use it.";)
JetMech
08-31-01, 08:51 AM
We overclockers are the best friends of both Intel and AMD. Just by doing our thing and constantly seeking more MHZ we are convincing the computing public that you should never be satified with the speed you're running at. AMD knows this and faked the multiplier lock issue on their chips to make it look like they cared. What they actually did we see every day at this forum. They put the chips out there and let us figure it all out knowing full well that we would. Intel plays hardball. They have more of the industry locked up than AMD (some businesses will not even consider using an AMD chip) and can afford to **** us off because they know that when all else fails they will still be selling the most stable chips in the computer industry. Once AMD can convince the high end companies that they have nothing to fear by investing in a network powered by AMD chips; then they too will become cocky and make overclocking their chips more difficult. I wonder if the pencil trick will work on AMDs next gen. cpus. Meanwhile the non-overclocking public continues to dump perfectly good fast machines to buy the next screamer.
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