Why are we all sticking with Intel based chips???

[TUK101]

I am just wondering why all of us are sticking with the Intel based chips (ie. Pentium Celeron etc.)? It seems to me that almost every benchmark that I see, the amd products just kick the crap out of the pentiums and celerons on the same mhz level. I know that when i shopped for my 800 Celeron, the 800 amd showed much higher benchmark scores. Heck even an amd 600 had better scores than my 800 Celeron. But still for some peculiar reason i built my system with Intel products? Could it be that thier advertising has brainwashed us all?:confused:

[Sohryu Asuka Langley]

User Opionion. For me, a Celeron was the cheapest upgrade route... and here in adelaide a lot of shops dont like amd (well, VIA). But for a a cheap dually system you still cant beat a dual P!!!>

[The Overclocker]

most of us have been overclocking for longer and when we first bought our systems intel was really the only optin, i has just been too expensive to upgrade to amd

[Burning Phoenix]

I will always believe Intel has a master plan in their new chip designs to which will become faster than AMD again. I think they made a step into that new design for it may be an early advancement that current software is not ready for and isn't showing it's true power. So i will still buy Intel over Amd. Also not looking at prices or mhz it seems to me the fastest chip by each manufacturer intel is still faster even though current intel chips are over 400 mhz over amds. I'll buy the 2.0 around Dec. Currently I have the 1.7.

[funnyperson1]

i would advise you to wait till the .13 micron pIV comes out till you upgrade because 1, that 2.0ghz chip will be much cheaper, and if you get a new mobo that .13micron will be much better, also while amd may have a couple megaflops advantage (at 800mhz my friends athlon gets 1100, and my pIII gets 1085 its too little to make a difference, and also some of us have intel mobos that we dont want to give up.....myself ill stick with my p3v4x and get an 800 pIII, then a 1ghz pIII, then if i can find a slocket to do it maybe a tualatin pIII.....its not until you get into tbird and pIV category when athlon really starts to take over....also the athlons are getting to the point where you almost need watercooling to get a decent overclock, i love how with a pentium you can just slap on an aluminum heatsink and get 300mhz out of it...

[DAppel]

I would really like to have a AMD, but since the cheapest upgrade route was Intel, I stuck with it. :rolleyes:

It´s not a bad system, and it´s fun to overclock (AMDs are fun too. It doesn´t matter what you´ve got, overclocking is fun ! :D )

I´m saving to buy a AMD DDR system. But there are no DDR RAM or Mobo available here where I live. So I´m going to stick with my currently cheap to upgrade Intel system until DDR arrives here.

[LJ5L]

Why are we all sticking with Intel based chips???

Because we understand there is more to it than benchmarks? ;)

[JaY_III]

Because I have a BX board.
and i can compte with a durin on the MHz per MHz war and hold my own ground.
Ths board has served me well.. from a P2 333 @420 with 64 megs of ram (that were the days) to my celeron2 633 @ 1066 with 448 megs of ram.

Alot of us intel users have an upgraded system that only needed a new CPU... to go AMD we would also need a new MB, and we dont all have the money for that.

[Cowtown]

I never ever buy the very top end chip. I have always bought lower and overclocked.

Intel can blow me, seriously, they can come over to my house, and blow me...

;)

Knowing Intel's park shinanagins and how they have constantly been trying to screw with the minds of consumers for the past two or three years really lost marks with me. I used to be completely Intel, but now, anything new I buy will be AMD. IF Intel comes out with the second coming, the apostle of processors (not this P4 crappola) then I will take a look, but not until then.

Shawn

[DaveB]

Well, I have two rigs. My Soyo BX system has been compelety stable and reliable running a PIII 700 @ 994 MHz for well over a year now. Recently I built a 1.4 GHz Athlon system which has been running at 1.6 GHz on a Shuttle AK31 mobo. The Soyo BX remains my main rig though. It never crashes and is fast enough for anything and compatible with any peripheral there is. The AMD is a toy, replacing my former toy, a VIA-based duallie which I parted out.

To tell the truth, it's hard to notice the speed difference between the two rigs. Since my wife is away, they sit across from one another in the study. MBM reports the temp of the PIII at 21C (Rain 2.0, thank you very much) and the Athlon at 47C. Normally the Athlon is in the basement where it runs a little cooler.

Anyway, I doubt I'll get rid of the Soyo BX anytime soon. You need a system you can depend on (if for nothing else than to keep my wife off my back when she wants to read her E-mail) while I goof around with the toy rig. Plus, as I already pointed out, a 1 GHz rig is fast enough for virtually anything I might do on my system anyway.

[funnyperson1]

if you have a decent graphics card you probly dont need anything above 800 mhz....im pretty happy with my comp right now, until next year when i get that p3 800 and some delta38s...:)

[Sohryu Asuka Langley]

Intel too are more future orientated then AMD. The Itanium is a brand new architecture while AMDs 64bit is just ANOTHER extention to 3DNow!/SSE which of course, started off as MMX...another intel future orientated plan of its time. Maybe if AMD could come up with something really wizz, I may consider changing roots (And if i ever have money for it). Oh about the PIV boards, get a mBGA with RAMBUS now so you can run future CPUs and no SDR (unless theres something like the i815/i815Bo that im missing).

[Gabertooth]

Why Intel (R),

I buy all intel systems because the Athlon runs hotter and is closer to the ragged edge than Intel. Intel chips on average have more overclockability than AMDs, they are clocked lower and with more buffer zone. And we all know that heat is the enemy, and wil less heat comes more stability and overclocking potential.

Intel is the only was to go for SMP also, AMD recently jumped in but they don't have the experience for me to drop $150 on a TYan Thunder K7 and a couple of processors. Intel has the seniority and expertise.

Intel also has a better roadmap than AMD, with stratification and an extremely high ramp up for the Northwood cores they will have the advantage.

-Gabertooth

[Gabertooth]

I couldn't aggree more brother.


Originally posted by DAppel
I would really like to have a AMD, but since the cheapest upgrade route was Intel, I stuck with it. :rolleyes:

It´s not a bad system, and it´s fun to overclock (AMDs are fun too. It doesn´t matter what you´ve got, overclocking is fun ! :D )

I´m saving to buy a AMD DDR system. But there are no DDR RAM or Mobo available here where I live. So I´m going to stick with my currently cheap to upgrade Intel system until DDR arrives here.

[ken257]

I use both and am very happy with each format, You do like it both ways don't you? oooops sorry wrong forum hehehe

I use Intel for servers/needed machines because of the lower heat output and amd for my toys.

It all comes down to having fun, no matter which way you go just have fun with it!

[wilbo666]

Why Intel??

Because when u can still use the first MB u ever had and still get kickarse speed why not??

My first comp was a cele266@400 on my GA6bxc (slot 1 bx) with 64 meg of ram (this was 2 yrs ago??)
I still run the same board with a C2 600@1008

To get soooo much more speed for $140 (AU) is better than paying for a new MB and a chip which will get almost the same speed!
(minus $200!!!!)

Sure if I had lots of money I'd have a 1.4 gig AMD @ 2gig!! with a GF3....but it just isn't happin to me!

Wilbo

[Kingslayer]

These are my reasons for sticking with Intel...

1. History. They have been making chips longer, and better than AMD.

2. Dual...need I say more. And I can do it without a 2nd mortgage on my house.

3. Heat. Or lack thereof. Everyone complained because the Cyrix chips were mini-space heaters. Look at the new AMD's, they are even worse. I live in Florida, the weather doesn't need the help from a miniature sun burning in my computer case.

4. Price. Intel systems are cheaper. I don't care what the AMD guys say. I don't have to buy a $150 powersupply, a $50 copper heatsink, or a $150 watercooling rig to OC my Intels. They run just fine with $20 FOP-32's.

5. Because Kingslayer says so!

[TUK101]

Thanks guys. I had a fealing that the history had a lot to do with the reason that most peaple stick with Intel. I do agree that the Intel stuff has a better tendancy to OC better. The only drawback that I can really see that limits a Pentium or Celerons performance is the bus speed. The ddr on the lower end amd's really let them perform well.

[Treker]

Originally posted by Kingslayer
These are my reasons for sticking with Intel...

5. Because Kingslayer says so!

Well that settles it then! :)

-Trek

[Treker]

Originally posted by Cowtown

Intel can blow me, seriously, they can come over to my house, and blow me...



Hey, c'mon man you know better than to say something like that here, yeah I know we all have our opinons, but some of them could be just a lil less colorfull :)

-Trek

[burn'em]

Originally posted by Sohryu Asuka Langley
User Opionion. For me, a Celeron was the cheapest upgrade route... and here in adelaide a lot of shops dont like amd (well, VIA). But for a a cheap dually system you still cant beat a dual P!!!>

Dual P's all the way. I will never have a single again. (I'm not getting rid of the ones I have but I wouldn't build anything but a Dualy)
Have you seen the price of a Dual AMD mob! Then you need Athlon mp cpu's.
My next will be Dual Xeons.