Celeron2 128k 900, 950, 1000 or 1100Mhz? (Exp's only!)

[The Doors]

I wanna upgrade my system with a new chip, I was thinking to a C2 900 cD0, but now I found also the others listed.
I suppose that the 900's works great @1.2Ghz with a Fsb@133Mhz, but theorically the 1.1Ghz works @1.466Ghz in the same conditions, really interesting coz the prices are really close, so what you suggest me?

NOTE: Checking the chip's supported by the Mobo (Msi 6337 i815E Pro) on the Msi website, well, the Cellie's are up to the 800Mhz, and 1Ghz for P///, but it sounds strange, coz the Mobo supports Multip. up to 16x and Fsb from 66 to 200Mhz!

[JaY_III]

dont worry about what the motherboard supports in terms of speed. As long as it has support for FCPGA (copermines) you will not have a problem.

onto the subject of what one to buy... the lower the multiplier the better your odds are of overclocking that chip to the next official FSB (133)

How to decide on what chip you want?
What are most people getting the cDo celerons upto now? What speed are most not getting them to?

If most people can do 1200 with a celeron go for the 900.. if a few people are getting 1200 but most 1100, the 800 would be a better option. rember that all cDo's are the same CPU... so you have to take into acount what the average cDo overclock is when you are looking to buy a new chip.
I say the best way to buy a chip is find out the average OC (lets use 1150) then find out what CPU will run at that speed @ 133 FSB (or 150 if you ram/hardware is good)....

so 1150(average OC of current stepping)/133(FSB wanted) = M(multiplier wanted)
M*100(original FSB)=celeron to buy

hope this helps

[The Doors]

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[AmbientFiction]

I'd go with the highest Mult at 100mhz cD0 that would give you the better OC.

[The Doors]

Originally posted by AmbientFiction
I'd go with the highest Mult at 100mhz cD0 that would give you the better OC.
I suppose that you are speaking of the 1.1Ghz, coz all the chips liested are available only in cD0 revision and works with a Fsb@100Mhz.

[Pinky]

Originally posted by AmbientFiction
I'd go with the highest Mult at 100mhz cD0 that would give you the better OC.

I'd agree, the cD0s overclock very nicely and don't really seem to have hit a ceiling yet... so tweak away!

I'd think theoretically 1300 would be the highest I'd expect to go, so get a 1000 cD0.

[JaY_III]

I would 100% disagree with getting a 1000 cDo celeron, the multiplier is to high. Look at all the people having problems with 800's. I would not get anything over 900. I myself would think that a 800 would be the best bet... 150 FSB , 1200Mhz or a 900 get that to 150FSB and we are talking 1350. And with the high FSB it will crush you celeron 1000 @ 100 FSB.

Now what if your CPU will not be able to get to 133 FSB, with the celeron 1000 you may get stuck at 112 (1120), the 900 (1008)....

I just think that the multiplier is to high with the 1000.
So if you tell me the average overclock is 1500 with the cDo celeron, then sure go for it. If its a little more humble, lets say 1200, 900 wioll be your best bet.

Also rember that the higher your FSB is, the faster your MHz are.... So the faster CPUs have a low multiplier, high FSB.
Meaning your GOAL should be 150 FSB and up.... something only the slower, cheaper yet exact same core celeron will have.

[The Doors]

I was thinking to the 1.1Ghz coz is cheaper like all the others (no more than 40$ over the 900's), probably it's really difficult that works @133Mhz (@1466Mhz!), but @112Mhz it just works* @1232Mhz and @124Mhz works* @1364Mhz, not so bad.

* Supposed to works! :D

[AmbientFiction]

Originally posted by The Doors
I was thinking to the 1.1Ghz coz is cheaper like all the others (no more than 40$ over the 900's), probably it's really difficult that works @133Mhz (@1466Mhz!), but @112Mhz it just works* @1232Mhz and @124Mhz works* @1364Mhz, not so bad.

* Supposed to works! :D

Well you couls always water cool it I am sure you could get 1466 out of it maybe even more I don't see a limit to what the cD0 are doing Mhz wise although I could see it crapping out with out water cooling so maybe you should get something like a 900 or a 950 if they made one. (Not at home so I don't have my intel spec sheet)

[The Doors]

Well, at the moment I prefer Air-Cooling for my Box, it's more safe, I think that Water-Cooling needs still of more improvement to be really really sure, but I appreciated your right suggestion ;)

[nucro]

I agree with jay , and I don!t think that 0.18 micron process technology will let you over 1.3 easily. Also cel 900 would give you more fsb which gives more performans.

[AmbientFiction]

WOW is this a Senior Member thread or what lol. I wish you the best on those CPUs that your looking at Doors. I am getting ready to get my new Iwill Vd133 pro board. Its got some nice specs lets hope its a screamer.

[The Doors]

Other suggestion?
Well, after many suggestion, I think that my next way is the 1.1Ghz, I wanna try to speed up it to the extreme with air cooling and look how far it can go.

P.S. hey Mr B & Newbie_Doo what ya think about??

[JaY_III]

with a 1.1 and air cooling i dont think you will get much over 1300. I say yet again, the multiplier is WAY to high. @ 133 FSB that would be 1466 , and i dont think that is going to happen.
So you may be able to fall back to 124 (if you can take the high PCI speed of 41MHz) and end up with a 1366, if you cant.. and have to fall back down to 112 you will only end up with a 1233.

Or go with a 900 @ 133 FSB that 1200 but @ 150 FSB thats 1350.
And the 900 @ 1350 with its high FSB will be a killer computer.

I would honestly like to see you get a 1.1 upto 133FSB , but i just dont see it happening.

rember MHz mean nothing. FSB if everything. (well to a point)

[The Doors]

You know, it's really a great tempation for me try to OC @133Mhz a Cellie 1.1Ghz :mad: but probably you are right like the others, the best way seems to be the 900's.
Thank you very much :)

[JaY_III]

would be nice if you could have a 1.1 CPU on loan... Still would like to see what you could do with it... And beating the odds is always great. And the bets thing of it being on loan, if it didnt beat the odds.. send it back
Oh well. Just let us know how it turns out

[The Doors]

As soon as possible (around 2 weeks) I'll know if upgrade with one of the new Cellie's, or totally change way with an Abit KG7-Raid with a TB1.4Ghz and 256Mb of Ddr!
I know sounds strange, but it's really a good opportunity :D