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ChesterMcCheese
08-28-04, 09:09 PM
Overrated? Or just plain good?

Theres at least $100 difference between value RAM and the CL2 and up to $50 difference between CL2 and CL2.5-3. So is 2-2-2-X RAM just for enthusiasts with too much money in their pockets who want to say "I own the best memory" while the memory offers negligible performance? Is the performance increase significant? Or only significant in that u can overclock ur FSB a lot more?

johan851
08-28-04, 09:44 PM
Is the performance increase significant? Or only significant in that u can overclock ur FSB a lot more?
Higher rated chips generally overclock much better too. If you were to run each one of these at PURELY stock settings though, $100 difference would hardly justify it.

Boegy3
08-28-04, 09:46 PM
If you're building a value system and watching the budget, don't worry about the cl2 memory. On the other hand, if you have money to spare to get the max performance possible, get the cl2. I did.

ChesterMcCheese
08-29-04, 03:28 AM
This is my reasoning with my limited knowledge of computarz. The ratio of FSB to RAM is fixed at say 1:1. Then you start OCing the FSB. It will stop OCing at some time or other, either when the RAM has hit its max or CPU has hit its max.

It would be pretty disappointing of I buy teh uber RAM then find out that I cant crank up the FSB cuz by the time I get a new comp I'd have an AMD 939 CPU or something which would be FRYING.

I probably cant afford water cooling and my box would only have 2 120mm fans or so. So it looks as if OCing capabilities will be xtremely limited (or will it?) and my hard earned cash will be better spent on a better video card.

Therefore, in conclusion, I think I should definitely not waste my money on low latency RAM (if I dont blow at least $2000 on other parts). But what about the higher latency RAM? What are they good for? Or should I just get some value RAM? Can they overclock at all?

BTank
08-29-04, 05:12 AM
It isn't fixed at 1:1, it just runs best at 1:1. There's other chips besides XPs too, like the 939 you mentioned. Since you mentioned A64 (so I presume you might migrate the ram to there) there IS no sync mode. There's a 1:1 setting but the ram is independent, you can run it anything you like and 230mhz@2225 can be the same as 250mhz@looser, so what if you don't have the vDimm or can't reach 250? These kind of chips do well at both. It's well worth it and nice, nice price.

ChesterMcCheese
08-29-04, 06:22 AM
I presume you might migrate the ram to there.
Explain migration plz. Sry I havent been keeping up with recent technology.

I think I understand how the RAM is independent in A64's. Then how do u go about changing the RAM bandwidths?

so what if you don't have the vDimm or can't reach 250? These kind of chips do well at both. It's well worth it and nice, nice price
vDimm? I'd debate the "nice nice price" part. $300 is nowhere near "nice" enough for me.

But I understand what ur saying: Low latency RAM is good for A64 systems, even if ur comp isnt too much of an OCer
If thats what ur trying to say at all.

johan851
08-29-04, 12:18 PM
Explain migration plz. Sry I havent been keeping up with recent technology.
He means you'll use the RAM you have now in your next platform.

I would suggest you guys read around a little more to see exactly what we look for in overclocking memory. Take a look at the long thread about PQI 2-2-2-5 series. We didn't necessarily buy it for the low latencies it advertises, but rather because of the chips it contains and the corresponding overclocking potential.

Link: http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?p=3044237#post3044237