9800 pro temps

[mr_spooky]

Atitools temperature monitoring... is that in C or F?
and what are normal temps?

[Quailane]

All I know is that my dad's msi 9800pro with xt core overclocked to max with ati tool is burning to the touch.

[JigPu]

More than likely the temps are reported in degrees celcius. As for normal temps, I can't help you there since I do not have a card with temp probe. However, I believe 40-50 is normal for stock cooling (could be horribly wrong though :D).

JigPu

[dreIU]

Don't they get up in the 70's? maybe that's in Fahrenheit, i dunno

[Gautam]

70's in C sounds about right.

[mr_spooky]

alright then... thanks!

[Vio1]

Where in ATItools does it tell you the temp?

[HousERaT]

Where in ATItools does it tell you the temp?

It's in the last tab and it will detect the temp probe for you. I haven't been able to confirm yet if the new atitool supports temps on the 9800pro on the xt pcb. The temps are in celsius and if you have a 9800pro with good cooling you should be in the 50s at idle..... mine is flashed to xt and is usually around 53° @ idle.

[meionm]

wow I didn't know that you can get temps, I just did mine one temp in both F and C 63 45

[Spider883]

my idle temps on my sapphire 9800 pro are 65c and 41c ... while doing 3dmark03 they were 76c and 48c.. stock cooling

[mtb856]

So 50°C ( it's ALT + 0176 for ° , folks :) )is a good idle temp? I just bought a 9800 Pro off the forums, so I'm curious as well. Mine has a Silencer and ramsinks on it, so maybe I'll be able to overclock a little higher.
I think it's the XT PCB w/ a r350 core and Samsung 2.8ns ram.... the XT PCB is the red one, correct?

[HousERaT]

If you want to know what type of pcb you have check out this article..... pretty much explains the differences in 9800pros.

http://www.rojakpot.com/default.aspx?location=3&var1=92&var2=0

[HousERaT]

wow I didn't know that you can get temps, I just did mine one temp in both F and C 63 45

If you're looking at those temps in the new atitool (0021 or newer) you're looking at two different temps.... the higher temp is the gpu and the other temp is the chip on the card. both are in celsius.

ThE RaT

[Mr B]

So 50°C... ( it's ALT + 0176 for ° , folks :) )

TY!!! :thup:

I was hoping to find out how that character was done. :p

24°, 23°, 47°.... YAY!!! :D

[mtb856]

Okay, now I'm confused... the article says that you can't flash r350 cored 9800's, but I've seen several threads in here that say you can flash the BIOS on the r350's. Which one is right?

[enduro]

Ditto that ^ I'd like to know too. I've got a r350 9800 pro on the way.

[mtb856]

It's that freaky twin thing again! Deja Vu :D

[HousERaT]

Okay, now I'm confused... the article says that you can't flash r350 cored 9800's, but I've seen several threads in here that say you can flash the BIOS on the r350's. Which one is right?

Some people will swear that it's o.k. to do. Personally I wouldn't do it because the cores are different. There are shaders that the r360 core utilizes that aren't found in the r350. If your machine is running a card with xt bios and it thinks you have a r360 core it's gonna try to used shaders that aren't there (or accessable) thus producing artifacts. A well known beta tester for catalyst swears by this. I don't know myself because I've never had a r350 core, but this is a common answer to your question. There are supposed benefits from using an xt bios on a pro card with a r350 core (better timings which apparently gets higher clocks). But even this I can't confirm.

[Gautam]

TY!!! :thup:

I was hoping to find out how that character was done. :p

24°, 23°, 47°.... YAY!!! :D
It doesn't work on my keyboard...damn micro$oft... :cry:

I can confirm the difference between the XT bios and the Pro, though.

http://home.comcast.net/~gautamb/xtvspro.JPG

Both done on a year-and-a-half old 9800 non pro with an R350 core.

Though HouseRat is absolutely correct. The R350 does lack shaders, and you do get artifacts. I have yet to see them outside of 3dmark03, though, so far.

[enduro]

All right. Thanks man.^^
BTW, I'm getting rid of the 9200, so you can stop ragging on my vidcard ;) Now all I have to do is whoop your overclock and I'll have my revenge.

[mtb856]

Cool, thanks :)

Oh BTW, is the Num Lock set to on for your keyboard? It won't work otherwise.

[HousERaT]

Though HouseRat is absolutely correct. The R350 does lack shaders, and you do get artifacts. I have yet to see them outside of 3dmark03, though, so far.

Gautam, you are the man :santa2: Thanks so much..... I've been looking for some confirmation about this for quite awhile....... and I had a feeling the difference wasn't something that really existed outside of benchmarks even though it is a difference... gonna put this thread in my bag of tricks since this question is asked all the time. :thup:

[enduro]

Though HouseRat is absolutely correct. The R350 does lack shaders, and you do get artifacts. I have yet to see them outside of 3dmark03, though, so far.

Sweet, thanks man. That's very good news. Now I can say that I have a 9800 XT coming :p

[mtb856]

Yeah, I have the BIOS, flashrom, and some other stuff lined up so now I just have to wait for the card to come......oooh, I can't wait :D

[mr_spooky]

whoa.. leave for work and there's a discussion happening :)
i'm using 0.0.22 and temps are 76 | 53 idle
i'm having issues running games.. after about ten minutes or so it crashes. i thought it might be heat related but am not too sure anymore.

[enduro]

Sorry this thread's been hijacked, go make another one ;)

JK, well from what Houserat said....
The temps are in celsius and if you have a 9800pro with good cooling you should be in the 50s at idle..... mine is flashed to xt and is usually around 53° @ idle.

I'm assuming that your gpu might be getting too hot and crashing. The same thing happens when your cpu gets too hot, so I'm not surprised that it happens w/ gpu's too. I just didn't know the temps for it. Although from what other's have said, you should keep it around 60-65°C idle. From some threads that I've read though, the best way to check if it isn't stable or getting too hot is to run a bench and if it crashes, back down on the overclock. Seems like pretty failsafe advice to me ;)

[HousERaT]

listen to enduro as he's giving good advice.... 9800pros generally idle in the high 60s low 70s on stock cooling.... something like the vga silencer will get you down to the high 50s low 60s..... then of course if you're gully like me, you'll put a fan or two blowing right at the videocard which will take you down even further..... :p

[iwillburnbush]

My card crashed all the time in opengl games, but my temps are always about 39°c idle (59° ATItool reading) and about 42° or 43°c load (62-63° ATItool reading)...

I've tried a bunch of things to fix it, but they only work for like a week and then it starts all over again. The only thing that seemed to "permanately" fix it was formating my hard drive...

BTW: it's a 9800pro flashed to xt with an r360 core at like 425MHz and hynix 2.8ns memory that runs 800MHz DDR with stock timings (I gotta bustout a volt-mod or two!)....

[mr_spooky]

thanks for the help guys...
but i think ram or cpu was the problem... i was doing a little overclocking.. decided to knock everything back to stock and play again.. been at it for about 45 mins no problems :clap:
that's what i get for cheaping out on the ram :/

[enduro]

Awesome man. That's great that you found the prob. So it's your ram huh? What was your overclock?

[Tat]

Is there any new XT bio that can read temp on the Pro PCB card?

[cookiethief]

can someone say again how to check the temp on card? i right click the ati tool on the taskbar and i have rotations, hydravision, schemes, settings, help and troubleshooting. where is the temp gauge at?

[mr_spooky]

not too much of an oc enduro...i'm still learning all of this stuff.
but thanks again everyone for the replies. this is a great forum! :beer:

EDIT: if your card supports it, it will just be in the atitool menu. best i can tell you :)